Or just extend the cake for an extra week.

KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »

Or just extend the cake for an extra week.

They are extending it by two days. But that's for everyone. I was suggesting something simpler for the people who may have wasted mats right at the start of the event.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

They have already extended the cake. Thats all I need. I mean if you used more than one scroll or pot after you knew they werent stacking I dont get how thats ZOS's fault.

Not everyone here is a PC player. And not everyone did the math. I'm on PS4, and there are no addons that tell me what XP I should be getting vs what I am actually getting.. So is it my fault then that I didn't question something that was clearly stated on the official ESO website (see below)?

"You and anyone in your group will be able to enjoy the cake and receive a 100% XP buff. This buff stacks with all other XP buffs!"

DangerMan wrote: »

I wasted 2 Scrolls and 2 XP Potions on Sunday/Monday before finding out here that they weren't stacking properly with the Cake, even though ZOS clearly stated that the Cake will stack with other buffs (either potions OR scrolls). Yes, the Cake was a lie.

Now I know it's too much work for ZOS to figure out what items each person wasted during this time, and I know it's not worth it given the other bugs that need fixing. But the least they can do is give just ONE FREE XP Scroll to everyone who logged in on Sunday . I know a lot of you may have wasted many more scrolls/mats than me, but we all know we're never going to get those back.. This would at least be much simpler to implement..

Why Sunday - There are still people in game using scrolls and xp potions as they still have no clue it's not stacking.. Not unless they read the forums or have been told by another! ZOS should be sending a little mail notification

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »

Or just extend the cake for an extra week.

They are extending it by two days. But that's for everyone. I was suggesting something simpler for the people who may have wasted mats right at the start of the event.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

They have already extended the cake. Thats all I need. I mean if you used more than one scroll or pot after you knew they werent stacking I dont get how thats ZOS's fault.

Not everyone here is a PC player. And not everyone did the math. I'm on PS4, and there are no addons that tell me what XP I should be getting vs what I am actually getting.. So is it my fault then that I didn't question something that was clearly stated on the official ESO website (see below)?

"You and anyone in your group will be able to enjoy the cake and receive a 100% XP buff. This buff stacks with all other XP buffs!"

People who dont use the forums maybe might have an excuse. It was all over the forums tho immediately and obviously you read them. Im sure if you put in a ticket you will get a refynd of the crowns you spend on whatever. XP pots probably be more difficult to verify than store purchases tho.

I didn't buy the scrolls on Sunday though.. I bought them 2 weeks back, and I still have 2 left from then.. I don't use the forums on weekend, only during weekdays I browse it when I'm at work

So no, I did not find out about this problem till Monday morning..

DangerMan wrote: »

I wasted 2 Scrolls and 2 XP Potions on Sunday/Monday before finding out here that they weren't stacking properly with the Cake, even though ZOS clearly stated that the Cake will stack with other buffs (either potions OR scrolls). Yes, the Cake was a lie.

Now I know it's too much work for ZOS to figure out what items each person wasted during this time, and I know it's not worth it given the other bugs that need fixing. But the least they can do is give just ONE FREE XP Scroll to everyone who logged in on Sunday . I know a lot of you may have wasted many more scrolls/mats than me, but we all know we're never going to get those back.. This would at least be much simpler to implement..

I agree... Atleast one refunded scroll. Those cost real money to purchase... And I only used one before I realised.

Either that or I would like 50% off my next crown purchase. I paid for something that did not work, that is wrong. Simple.

davidtxr wrote: »

Already getting an additional day which should cover an accidental use of a scroll by a country mile

No, everyone get's that extension regardless. People who purchased items with real money should at least get something extra. I'm fine if they don't want to give it to everyone who logged in on Sunday, but people who used a scroll should get at least one free..

I wasted XP potions too, but I'm not asking for those back since those don't cost real money..

Well the XP pots and cake would stack. They never said you could just stack every xp buff in the game on top of each other. The XP scrolls and XP pots are the same buff. Just one you buy with money and one you make. The same buffs dont stack. otherwise you could just keep stacking them if you had the money to hit 10,000 times xp per kill.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Well the XP pots and cake would stack. They never said you could just stack every xp buff in the game on top of each other. The XP scrolls and XP pots are the same buff. Just one you buy with money and one you make. The same buffs dont stack.

Never implied that I tried to stack all three. It was stated in one of the other threads before the release that the three won't stack together. I stacked EITHER a potion OR a scroll when I did this..

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Well the XP pots and cake would stack. They never said you could just stack every xp buff in the game on top of each other. The XP scrolls and XP pots are the same buff. Just one you buy with money and one you make. The same buffs dont stack. otherwise you could just keep stacking them if you had the money to hit 10,000 times xp per kill.

James,
Please stop commenting as such, your comments are inaccurate as mentioned in the other PSA thread

Please explain whats inaccurate about any of my comments.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I just dont get it how people can STILL be confused. The same buffs dont stack. XP pots and scrolls give the same buffs.

DangerMan wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Well the XP pots and cake would stack. They never said you could just stack every xp buff in the game on top of each other. The XP scrolls and XP pots are the same buff. Just one you buy with money and one you make. The same buffs dont stack.

Never implied that I tried to stack all three. It was stated in one of the other threads before the release that the three won't stack together. I stacked EITHER a potion OR a scroll when I did this..

It's quite clear that I never tried to stack all three. So I'm not sure how this is relevant..

Can't even get the cake right..

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Well the XP pots and cake would stack. They never said you could just stack every xp buff in the game on top of each other. The XP scrolls and XP pots are the same buff. Just one you buy with money and one you make. The same buffs dont stack. otherwise you could just keep stacking them if you had the money to hit 10,000 times xp per kill.

James,
Please stop commenting as such, your comments are inaccurate as mentioned in the other PSA thread

Please explain whats inaccurate about any of my comments.

A few forum members and community members ad myself have hoped to share the official statements on this discussion here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2851158/#Comment_2851158

Respectfully,

While interpretation is one thing, this comment specifically is confirmed and clarified by ZOS staff. There isn't anything left for interpretation as ZOS confirms the same exp buffs dont stack but as questioned regarding ambrosia, exp scrolls and others types, ZOS shares that all of each will stack +the cake.

While you may disagree, this is the specific detail per ZOS staff that we as a community were basing out concerns off.
Its great to discuss but your comments are now bullying users and miss-informing others.

Gina did come out and say that the max that you can get is 285% buff. I read Gina stating in one of the threads that Scrolls and Potions will not stack on top of one another. They may have made this change right before release - hence the confusion between you two.

That being said all you have to do is request your scrolls or pots back. Im sure they can verify if you used them or not and refund whatever be it xp pots or crowns or the scrolls themselves.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Well the XP pots and cake would stack. They never said you could just stack every xp buff in the game on top of each other. The XP scrolls and XP pots are the same buff. Just one you buy with money and one you make. The same buffs dont stack. otherwise you could just keep stacking them if you had the money to hit 10,000 times xp per kill.

James,
Please stop commenting as such, your comments are inaccurate as mentioned in the other PSA thread

Please explain whats inaccurate about any of my comments.

A few forum members and community members ad myself have hoped to share the official statements on this discussion here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2851158/#Comment_2851158

Respectfully,

While interpretation is one thing, this comment specifically is confirmed and clarified by ZOS staff. There isn't anything left for interpretation as ZOS confirms the same exp buffs dont stack but as questioned regarding ambrosia, exp scrolls and others types, ZOS shares that all of each will stack +the cake.

While you may disagree, this is the specific detail per ZOS staff that we as a community were basing out concerns off.
Its great to discuss but your comments are now bullying users and miss-informing others.

Gina did come out and say that the max that you can get is 285% buff. I read Gina stating in one of the threads that Scrolls and Potions will not stack on top of one another. They may have made this change right before release - hence the confusion between you two.

There are the confirmations from ZOS Gina on 4/1/16 where the forum member asked specifically about stacking Ambrosia, exp scrolls + cake and Gina says yes and that all restrictions will be removed.

Then you have later on 4/4/16 from ZOS Jessica which then clarifies what will happen since the cake didn't work as it should, so as of 4/4/16 we all know certain things wont stack when fixed.
The thread however, was a larger discussion all prior to 4.4.16 ZOS Jessica post.

Chronologically and specifically the two differ from what was to start vs what will happen on revised changes.

That isnt exactly what she said. She never said all xp will stack with all other xp. She qualified that by saying the same buffs will not stack with themselves. That restriction she said was not being removed. XP crown scrolls and ambrosia give you the exact same buff. The only diff being duration. Thats why they never stacked before and why they dont stack now.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Well the XP pots and cake would stack. They never said you could just stack every xp buff in the game on top of each other. The XP scrolls and XP pots are the same buff. Just one you buy with money and one you make. The same buffs dont stack. otherwise you could just keep stacking them if you had the money to hit 10,000 times xp per kill.

James,
Please stop commenting as such, your comments are inaccurate as mentioned in the other PSA thread

Please explain whats inaccurate about any of my comments.

A few forum members and community members ad myself have hoped to share the official statements on this discussion here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2851158/#Comment_2851158

Respectfully,

While interpretation is one thing, this comment specifically is confirmed and clarified by ZOS staff. There isn't anything left for interpretation as ZOS confirms the same exp buffs dont stack but as questioned regarding ambrosia, exp scrolls and others types, ZOS shares that all of each will stack +the cake.

While you may disagree, this is the specific detail per ZOS staff that we as a community were basing out concerns off.
Its great to discuss but your comments are now bullying users and miss-informing others.

Gina did come out and say that the max that you can get is 285% buff. I read Gina stating in one of the threads that Scrolls and Potions will not stack on top of one another. They may have made this change right before release - hence the confusion between you two.

There are the confirmations from ZOS Gina on 4/1/16 where the forum member asked specifically about stacking Ambrosia, exp scrolls + cake and Gina says yes and that all restrictions will be removed.

Then you have later on 4/4/16 from ZOS Jessica which then clarifies what will happen since the cake didn't work as it should, so as of 4/4/16 we all know certain things wont stack when fixed.
The thread however, was a larger discussion all prior to 4.4.16 ZOS Jessica post.

Chronologically and specifically the two differ from what was to start vs what will happen on revised changes.

That isnt exactly what she said. She never said all xp will stack with all other xp. She qualified that by saying the same buffs will not stack with themselves. That restriction she said was not being removed. XP crown scrolls and ambrosia give you the exact same buff. The only diff being duration. Thats why they never stacked before and why they dont stack now.

James....in specific context... Gina's written dialogue is below so I'm not sure why you're arguing against what is written. Perhaps discussing but as many have shared what was written, i will put it in context to that entire thread again below. I even had to read it a few times because I told a guy online that scrolls and exp pots wouldn't work together and he said...go read the ZOS comment.....and he was right

Part 1: The article which prompted questions - http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/03/29/celebrate-esos-anniversary

We want to make sure you're ready for this special event – read below for all the details:

-The event will begin at 7:30pm EDT on April 3, and conclude at 7pm EDT on April 10. Everyone will be able to participate, regardless of platform or megaserver.
- When you first log in, you'll be presented with an announcement screen informing you of a free voucher for a cake in the Crown Store.
-Once you open the Crown Store and retrieve the voucher, your quest – Ache For Cake – will begin.
-After the quest is complete, you'll receive your reward – a Jubilee Cake, which will be placed in your Mementos collection.
-You and anyone in your group will be able to enjoy the cake and receive a 100% XP buff. This buff stacks with all other XP buffs!
-Once the week is over, you'll retain the cake as a special keepsake but its magic will be gone.


*So here the article literally says it stacks with ALL OTHER BUFFS*
-Thus why we have the questions for clarification.....

Part 2:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Celebrate ESO's Anniversary!

Two years ago today, we opened the PC and Mac megaservers to everyone for Early Access. It was so exciting to see you all step foot into our world for the first time and experience everything ESO had to offer! Just over a year later, we unleashed ESO to the console world and launched on Xbox One and PlayStation®4. After years of [in-game] blood, sweat, and maybe a few tears, there is nothing more satisfying and thrilling than to see thousands of players enjoying the game we’ve created.

Be sure to check out the article linked above to see all the events we have in store for you. Enjoy!

@ZOS_GinaBruno As others have noted, can you explain how the XP buff works in more detail because the description doesn't really specify whether the XP Boost lasts 'all week' when you complete the cake quest or if it is limited duration based upon when you actually 'consume' the cake? Also, whether or not the buff is in effect for ALL account characters or limited to the one who actually completes the cake quest?!?

Yes, apologies for the delay (been out sick with a wicked fever!). The XP boost you receive from the cake will last for 2 hours, but can be re-used infinitely throughout the week. If you eat a slice of cake before the buff expires, it will not stack with itself; it will simply refresh the buff. It can also be shared with all your group members, meaning if someone in your group doesn't have the cake, they can still eat yours to get the buff.

Also, once you get your cake, it can be used by all characters on your account since it's a Memento.

-So here we get context to the cake and that it can't stack with itself but can stack with other exp bonuses as well as how the cake works alone.

Part 3

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Raghul wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno do you need provisioning maxed out in order to complete the quest?

Nope, not necessary.

I just want a quick clarification.
Will I be able to stack a scroll, an ambrosia and this or just 2 of the 3?

All XP boost restrictions will be lifted during the anniversary week, so you'll be able to stack everything (just not with itself).

The forum member specifically identifies that their question is: Can we use Ambrosia+Exp scroll+cake?
And the staff response brings us back to the original article..... "All XP boost restrictions will be lifted during the anniversary week"


This clarifies even to your link to how ambrosia and exp scrolls work and how they are the same as bonus, they are different items so in reading and understanding, its possible and logical to suggest ZOS statements may have been inaccurate based on prior conditions but we literally have clarification that the prior limitations have been lifted.

From March 30 - April 3rd, the context was no limitations.....and then we asked why these limitations that were removed, aren't actually applying. Nothing was working other than the cake.

Part 4
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/258018/eso-anniversary-event-xp-buff-stacking#latest

As of 4.4.16 we had confirmation that when the fix applies...this is how it will work which is different than above but clear

"In ESO, all XP buffs stack with each other, with the exception of Psijic Ambrosia and the Crown Experience Scroll. Not counting the Jubilee Cake, these are the different types of XP buffs currently in the game."

The point of the 4.4.16 thread as news was to update us and clarify questions in the couple of threads, so we see where each question was listed to eliminate confusion upon the fix hitting live servers.

"It is currently possible to stack XP buffs for a total possible increase of 85% for most types of content. There is normally a cap in place that prevents any event (a quest completion, a monster kill, etc.) from granting more than 10% of your total level value. For the anniversary event, that cap was raised from 10% to 30%."


so finally we then read:


How the Jubilee Cake XP Buff Works
The Jubilee Cake buff for the ESO anniversary event should be stacking with the following XP buffs:

Alliance War Keep buff
Crown Experience Scroll OR Psijic Ambrosia
ESO Plus
Grouping buff
Rings of Mara buff
Exploration Trait XP buff

With the Jubilee Cake buff, you should be getting an additional 100% plus the total possible 85% detailed above, for a grand total of 185%* as the highest possible XP buff increase during the anniversary event. That is not currently happening, though, and the percentage is capping out at 100%. We’re looking into why, as that is not intended.


This is Jessica's article correcting Gina's comments based on the fix so prior, customers were not wrong to think the stacking would apply until 4.4.16 article