World First Clear vMOL V16 Clear and Speed Run - HODOR

AOECAPS · April 2016

Console kiddies aren't getting close. Ive talked to the few good pve guilds and lol at them being close.some guy that was smashing synergies in hel ra today said that it would take him and the rest of his group 2 hours to run v16 maw. Most console players are delusional there are some that are good but not most.

Ariisen · April 2016

Console are doing what? x°

Not on XB1 EU at least. We didn't even try properly yet.

EgoRush · April 2016

AOECAPS wrote: »

Console kiddies aren't getting close. Ive talked to the few good pve guilds and lol at them being close.some guy that was smashing synergies in hel ra today said that it would take him and the rest of his group 2 hours to run v16 maw. Most console players are delusional there are some that are good but not most.

I hear they completed a Lunar Cycle on console yesterday. I'm inclined to believe them too as they described the second cycle extra mechanic to us (something we've kept secret within Hodor for now).

Vaoh · April 2016

AOECAPS wrote: »

Console kiddies aren't getting close. Ive talked to the few good pve guilds and lol at them being close.some guy that was smashing synergies in hel ra today said that it would take him and the rest of his group 2 hours to run v16 maw. Most console players are delusional there are some that are good but not most.

Normally I'd say you're being a terrible PC elitist based on the start of your comment, but you are very much correct here. Console is behind regarding this facet of ESO based on game performance and lack of good trial guilds since this is the first time a trial was scaled to V16. No serious trial guilds were created before MoL released since there was no need to run them for V12 rewards.

You think Vet Maw of Lorkhaj is challenging? Try it with 10-15FPS and stutters on enemy death among many other performance issues not experienced on PC since this patch launched. Most guilds cannot complete normal mode!

AOECAPS · April 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

AOECAPS wrote: »

Console kiddies aren't getting close. Ive talked to the few good pve guilds and lol at them being close.some guy that was smashing synergies in hel ra today said that it would take him and the rest of his group 2 hours to run v16 maw. Most console players are delusional there are some that are good but not most.

Normally I'd say you're being a terrible PC elitist based on the start of your comment, but you are very much correct here. Console is behind regarding this facet of ESO based on game performance and lack of good trial guilds since this is the first time a trial was scaled to V16. No serious trial guilds were created before MoL released since there was no need to run them for V12 rewards.

You think Vet Maw of Lorkhaj is challenging? Try it with 10-15FPS and stutters on enemy death among many other performance issues not experienced on PC since this patch launched. Most guilds cannot complete normal mode!

I'm on console and 99.9% of players don't know what they are doing. 0.1% of ps4 players have received maelstrom achievement more than half have paid for maelstrom to be cleared for them. There are very few actual raid guilds..I think if they are getting close it is on EU or they are not running it on V16.

Samphaa · April 2016

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AOECAPS wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

AOECAPS wrote: »

Console kiddies aren't getting close. Ive talked to the few good pve guilds and lol at them being close.some guy that was smashing synergies in hel ra today said that it would take him and the rest of his group 2 hours to run v16 maw. Most console players are delusional there are some that are good but not most.

Normally I'd say you're being a terrible PC elitist based on the start of your comment, but you are very much correct here. Console is behind regarding this facet of ESO based on game performance and lack of good trial guilds since this is the first time a trial was scaled to V16. No serious trial guilds were created before MoL released since there was no need to run them for V12 rewards.

You think Vet Maw of Lorkhaj is challenging? Try it with 10-15FPS and stutters on enemy death among many other performance issues not experienced on PC since this patch launched. Most guilds cannot complete normal mode!

I'm on console and 99.9% of players don't know what they are doing. 0.1% of ps4 players have received maelstrom achievement more than half have paid for maelstrom to be cleared for them. There are very few actual raid guilds..I think if they are getting close it is on EU or they are not running it on V16.

This whole pay to win thing really pisses me off, me and my friends spent hours of pain in that arena to learn it, yet someone can come along, pay a bit of gold or whatever, and have a chance at a weapon and a leaderboard spot, stupid. Tis quite obvious who has done it on ps4 tho. You see a flawless conquerer who has a leaderboard score of 500k, yet had a weekly score of 350k. I'm sorry but if you're a 500k player, you can't play badly enough to get 350k unless you purposely died or waited 30 mins before killing the last boss

On topic, congrats Hodor, you guys are the best, Alcast, you're the bestestest

Efaritay · April 2016

Samphaa wrote: »

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On topic, congrats Hodor, you guys are the best, Alcast, you're the bestestest

You clearly have never @Kippesnikke

Nifty2g · April 2016

Samphaa wrote: »

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AOECAPS wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

AOECAPS wrote: »

Console kiddies aren't getting close. Ive talked to the few good pve guilds and lol at them being close.some guy that was smashing synergies in hel ra today said that it would take him and the rest of his group 2 hours to run v16 maw. Most console players are delusional there are some that are good but not most.

Normally I'd say you're being a terrible PC elitist based on the start of your comment, but you are very much correct here. Console is behind regarding this facet of ESO based on game performance and lack of good trial guilds since this is the first time a trial was scaled to V16. No serious trial guilds were created before MoL released since there was no need to run them for V12 rewards.

You think Vet Maw of Lorkhaj is challenging? Try it with 10-15FPS and stutters on enemy death among many other performance issues not experienced on PC since this patch launched. Most guilds cannot complete normal mode!

I'm on console and 99.9% of players don't know what they are doing. 0.1% of ps4 players have received maelstrom achievement more than half have paid for maelstrom to be cleared for them. There are very few actual raid guilds..I think if they are getting close it is on EU or they are not running it on V16.

This whole pay to win thing really pisses me off, me and my friends spent hours of pain in that arena to learn it, yet someone can come along, pay a bit of gold or whatever, and have a chance at a weapon and a leaderboard spot, stupid. Tis quite obvious who has done it on ps4 tho. You see a flawless conquerer who has a leaderboard score of 500k, yet had a weekly score of 350k. I'm sorry but if you're a 500k player, you can't play badly enough to get 350k unless you purposely died or waited 30 mins before killing the last boss

On topic, congrats Hodor, you guys are the best, Alcast, you're the bestestest

I was pretty competitive at vma going for high scores, i had top score for a few times and over 500k score before the reset. Last time i did vma for a weekly i got a score of like 350k

Stop assuming things, weekly runs are very casual compared for when you're trying to achieve a competitive score.
This also applies for trials.

Kas · April 2016

Samphaa wrote: »

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AOECAPS wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

AOECAPS wrote: »

Console kiddies aren't getting close. Ive talked to the few good pve guilds and lol at them being close.some guy that was smashing synergies in hel ra today said that it would take him and the rest of his group 2 hours to run v16 maw. Most console players are delusional there are some that are good but not most.

Normally I'd say you're being a terrible PC elitist based on the start of your comment, but you are very much correct here. Console is behind regarding this facet of ESO based on game performance and lack of good trial guilds since this is the first time a trial was scaled to V16. No serious trial guilds were created before MoL released since there was no need to run them for V12 rewards.

You think Vet Maw of Lorkhaj is challenging? Try it with 10-15FPS and stutters on enemy death among many other performance issues not experienced on PC since this patch launched. Most guilds cannot complete normal mode!

I'm on console and 99.9% of players don't know what they are doing. 0.1% of ps4 players have received maelstrom achievement more than half have paid for maelstrom to be cleared for them. There are very few actual raid guilds..I think if they are getting close it is on EU or they are not running it on V16.

This whole pay to win thing really pisses me off, me and my friends spent hours of pain in that arena to learn it, yet someone can come along, pay a bit of gold or whatever, and have a chance at a weapon and a leaderboard spot, stupid. Tis quite obvious who has done it on ps4 tho. You see a flawless conquerer who has a leaderboard score of 500k, yet had a weekly score of 350k. I'm sorry but if you're a 500k player, you can't play badly enough to get 350k unless you purposely died or waited 30 mins before killing the last boss

On topic, congrats Hodor, you guys are the best, Alcast, you're the bestestest

I'm on PC and don't care much about PvE, so no truely competetive scores. I have flawless title though and had proper scores during orsinium patch (haven't left cyro at all during TG, havn't even visited the new zone). That said, back then when I had my title, I still needed a sharpened lightning stuff and did weekly runs. Especially on my templar, there were few competetive scores and I often cooked dinner during the arena run, went to the kitchen between stages, prepared the next step and whiel waiting for something to heat/finish, i did another stage. there are plenty of reasons players get lower scores on some runs than what they're capable of.

Samphaa · April 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

Samphaa wrote: »

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AOECAPS wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

AOECAPS wrote: »

Console kiddies aren't getting close. Ive talked to the few good pve guilds and lol at them being close.some guy that was smashing synergies in hel ra today said that it would take him and the rest of his group 2 hours to run v16 maw. Most console players are delusional there are some that are good but not most.

Normally I'd say you're being a terrible PC elitist based on the start of your comment, but you are very much correct here. Console is behind regarding this facet of ESO based on game performance and lack of good trial guilds since this is the first time a trial was scaled to V16. No serious trial guilds were created before MoL released since there was no need to run them for V12 rewards.

You think Vet Maw of Lorkhaj is challenging? Try it with 10-15FPS and stutters on enemy death among many other performance issues not experienced on PC since this patch launched. Most guilds cannot complete normal mode!

I'm on console and 99.9% of players don't know what they are doing. 0.1% of ps4 players have received maelstrom achievement more than half have paid for maelstrom to be cleared for them. There are very few actual raid guilds..I think if they are getting close it is on EU or they are not running it on V16.

This whole pay to win thing really pisses me off, me and my friends spent hours of pain in that arena to learn it, yet someone can come along, pay a bit of gold or whatever, and have a chance at a weapon and a leaderboard spot, stupid. Tis quite obvious who has done it on ps4 tho. You see a flawless conquerer who has a leaderboard score of 500k, yet had a weekly score of 350k. I'm sorry but if you're a 500k player, you can't play badly enough to get 350k unless you purposely died or waited 30 mins before killing the last boss

On topic, congrats Hodor, you guys are the best, Alcast, you're the bestestest

I was pretty competitive at vma going for high scores, i had top score for a few times and over 500k score before the reset. Last time i did vma for a weekly i got a score of like 350k

Stop assuming things, weekly runs are very casual compared for when you're trying to achieve a competitive score.
This also applies for trials.

The person I'm thinking of hadn't even completed it before, I did a dungeon with him and he added me as a friend. He didn't have stormproof at the time. The next week he has flawless conquerer with a 502k score. This week I've seen him complete it 6 times in the guild mates notifications thing, not once over 360k, didn't get on the leaderboard at all. 90% of the people I see with flawless are top 20 on the board, every week.

Personally my scores have always gone up, if they've dropped, it's by a couple of thousand, no more. Ive always gone in there with the intention of doing my best, so I'm on the board and dont have to worry about it again for the week. I had my best runs I've had on my sorc and nightblade last week. (492k and 468k) I've never done a run in there where my score was drastically lower than my previous run, always either up or ever so slightly down.

I'm curious, what are the bottom weekly scores for each class on pc? On ps4 sorc is about 440k, you just need to complete it on any other class to get on there.

PriorityBalle · April 2016

Hodor

Efaritay · April 2016

@PriorityBalle

Alcast · April 2016

Speedachievment CHECK
Thanks to all the guilds that support us in those desperate and buggy times

One time no crashes and voila.....

@Nifty2g @Polysemy @Slayyer-AUS
Where are ya boyz?

Tacadrie · April 2016

HODOR

YoloWizard · April 2016

@Alcast Probs training to not get rekt by console peeps

KingYogi415 · April 2016

Is 425 cp enough to heal normal maw?

Vezuls · April 2016

Congrats guys!!

Valrien · April 2016

Samphaa wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Samphaa wrote: »

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AOECAPS wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

AOECAPS wrote: »

Console kiddies aren't getting close. Ive talked to the few good pve guilds and lol at them being close.some guy that was smashing synergies in hel ra today said that it would take him and the rest of his group 2 hours to run v16 maw. Most console players are delusional there are some that are good but not most.

Normally I'd say you're being a terrible PC elitist based on the start of your comment, but you are very much correct here. Console is behind regarding this facet of ESO based on game performance and lack of good trial guilds since this is the first time a trial was scaled to V16. No serious trial guilds were created before MoL released since there was no need to run them for V12 rewards.

You think Vet Maw of Lorkhaj is challenging? Try it with 10-15FPS and stutters on enemy death among many other performance issues not experienced on PC since this patch launched. Most guilds cannot complete normal mode!

I'm on console and 99.9% of players don't know what they are doing. 0.1% of ps4 players have received maelstrom achievement more than half have paid for maelstrom to be cleared for them. There are very few actual raid guilds..I think if they are getting close it is on EU or they are not running it on V16.

This whole pay to win thing really pisses me off, me and my friends spent hours of pain in that arena to learn it, yet someone can come along, pay a bit of gold or whatever, and have a chance at a weapon and a leaderboard spot, stupid. Tis quite obvious who has done it on ps4 tho. You see a flawless conquerer who has a leaderboard score of 500k, yet had a weekly score of 350k. I'm sorry but if you're a 500k player, you can't play badly enough to get 350k unless you purposely died or waited 30 mins before killing the last boss

On topic, congrats Hodor, you guys are the best, Alcast, you're the bestestest

I was pretty competitive at vma going for high scores, i had top score for a few times and over 500k score before the reset. Last time i did vma for a weekly i got a score of like 350k

Stop assuming things, weekly runs are very casual compared for when you're trying to achieve a competitive score.
This also applies for trials.

The person I'm thinking of hadn't even completed it before, I did a dungeon with him and he added me as a friend. He didn't have stormproof at the time. The next week he has flawless conquerer with a 502k score. This week I've seen him complete it 6 times in the guild mates notifications thing, not once over 360k, didn't get on the leaderboard at all. 90% of the people I see with flawless are top 20 on the board, every week.

Personally my scores have always gone up, if they've dropped, it's by a couple of thousand, no more. Ive always gone in there with the intention of doing my best, so I'm on the board and dont have to worry about it again for the week. I had my best runs I've had on my sorc and nightblade last week. (492k and 468k) I've never done a run in there where my score was drastically lower than my previous run, always either up or ever so slightly down.

I'm curious, what are the bottom weekly scores for each class on pc? On ps4 sorc is about 440k, you just need to complete it on any other class to get on there.

Bottom Sorc on the all-time is 461k. Bottom of the weekly at this moment is 321k

Alcast · April 2016

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Is 425 cp enough to heal normal maw?

Yes, Normal MaW is not that hard. Important is that you do understand the MECHANICS of the Trial. Then you will have no issues.

EgoRush · April 2016

Well, as many will know I've quit the game now. I came back for this final raid as a goodbye and we ticked off the speed achievement

I will miss this game.

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Is 425 cp enough to heal normal maw?

Yeah, I'm one of the main healers and I could easily do this with less than 425 CP. Healing is very easy here once you get used to the mechanics. The key is to pull as much off-DPS as possible while doing it

I have a description of the healer build I use for vMOL here:
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/aedrics-warrior-magicka-build-templar-dd/
Scroll down past the 2 DD build. I have some information on what I do healing with skills too. Feel free to message me on there/here or comment in the thread if you want more specific tips.

RoMarQ · April 2016

With only 14 deaths, what exploit are you guys doing?

Hjelmerina · April 2016

RoMarQ wrote: »

With only 14 deaths, what exploit are you guys doing?

It's an exploit called having skills.

Vezuls · April 2016

RoMarQ wrote: »

With only 14 deaths, what exploit are you guys doing?

Hodor cheats. ;P

LaRoseNoire · April 2016

CONGRATZ!!!

YoloWizard · April 2016

RoMarQ wrote: »

With only 14 deaths, what exploit are you guys doing?

Macros + speed hacks + skipping mobs + good dips

KingYogi415 · April 2016

EgoRush wrote: »

Well, as many will know I've quit the game now. I came back for this final raid as a goodbye and we ticked off the speed achievement I will miss this game.

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Is 425 cp enough to heal normal maw?

Yeah, I'm one of the main healers and I could easily do this with less than 425 CP. Healing is very easy here once you get used to the mechanics. The key is to pull as much off-DPS as possible while doing it

I have a description of the healer build I use for vMOL here:
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/aedrics-warrior-magicka-build-templar-dd/
Scroll down past the 2 DD build. I have some information on what I do healing with skills too. Feel free to message me on there/here or comment in the thread if you want more specific tips.

Great guide!

From what I saw of a healer in Vmol. it looks like i mostly buff, use a lot of healing springs, and dark flare for DPS.

Should I go Kag or the Seducer set?

I run molag Kena, will power, and torags pact swords.

Buffed up my stats are around: 35k magic, 1900 recovery, 3450 spell power

PriorityBalle · April 2016

GG Hodor and in a few hours we might finally reconsile with our teacher,god and master, Hodor in Game of Thrones.<3

Slayyer-AUS · April 2016

Alcast wrote: »

Speedachievment CHECK
Thanks to all the guilds that support us in those desperate and buggy times
One time no crashes and voila.....

@Nifty2g @Polysemy @Slayyer-AUS
Where are ya boyz?

whats your guys dps parses? Im curious. Congratz you guys are the better guild atm well done.

YoloWizard · April 2016

Slayyer-AUS wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Speedachievment CHECK
Thanks to all the guilds that support us in those desperate and buggy times
One time no crashes and voila.....

@Nifty2g @Polysemy @Slayyer-AUS
Where are ya boyz?

whats your guys dps parses? Im curious. Congratz you guys are the better guild atm well done.

Highest is 36-37k by Alcast

, note that we don't get synergy phase anymore so its pure damage (no buff from beaming)

Slayyer-AUS · April 2016

Nice, ive been pushing the guild to try new things to skip lunar as well should do it soon hopefully. Sounds like you guys have good synergy and a nice strat

Im at 40k before beam phase now as Im getting more comfortable with the fight.