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Magicka Templar Tank. How should I distribute my attributes?
What the title says. If you have an advice for armor enchantment then say it. That would be helpful.
Edited by Xandyaffonso on April 2, 2016 11:03PM 0
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I am a nord, I do mostly dungeons and pvp. My sets are engine guardian, spectres eyes and pariah.0
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Health. Attribute and Enchantments.
As a Nord, I would suggest trying to take advantage of all their passives. Individually, they are not that great except Rugged which is nice but once you can take advantage of Robust. They can turn into a super-tank.
I like Pariah but in Heavy Armor you get close to the soft cap on Spell Resistance without any aid. It works nice when paired with Light, or Medium. It doesn't offer much in Magicka which becomes de-synergized with being a Nord Templar. This can hurt you because your self-healing (BoL) will be weak without an investment in Magicka. So spells like Blazing Shield are going to become your source of self-survivability since it doesn't scale off Magicka but your Health total.
Pariah will work until you can get your hands on Permafrost, if you don't already. More magicka and magicka recovery plus an additional ~900 Health Recovery while you have a damage shield. Magicka and Magicka Recovery will help ya keep your shields up.
Because Spell Resistance is easy to cap on a Templar, the weakness is Physical Damage. The work around is using shields but one you probably wouldn't think to use. Harness Magicka. This spell will keep the 5 piece bonus from Permafrost on you as Physical damage does not tax this shield.
The additional Mitigation you got from Pariah can now be balanced by the Health recovery you get from Permafrost and Blazing Shield. Harness Magicka if the target is primarily Physical damage. Suck it Shield Breaker.
Spectre's Eye is ok at best. The dodge chance is only on half the time, slotting Shuffle is 20 seconds of the same bonus. Better to use Shuffle and with Damage Shields protecting your stamina, you can afford this ability.
Replace Spectre's Eye with Orgnum's Scales. It's more Health, more Health Recovery and if you fall below 60% health you get 50% more health recovery. Which again synergized with Robust passive. Since your stacking health, close to 50k. Unless something hits you for more than 30k damage + block mitigation + whatever shield you have, it's gonna be hard to take you down.
If Pariahs makes it hard to kill you. The compilation of Nord + Permafrost + Orgnum + Shield stacking + Block Mitigation makes you immortal.
As far as Food/Drink. The Orsinium Food that gives you Max Health and More Magicka Recovery is the one to use.
For Jewelry Enchantments, CP and Armor Setup. You want to find a comfortable balance between having a very good Health Recovery and enough reduced Magicka cost and Magicka Recovery to be able to keep your shields up. For armor, 5/2 or maybe 4/3 heavy and light. This first depends on how much magicka recovery you need, then if you can the 5 piece heavy armor bonus. Damage will hit your shields first so the hit to your stamina is mitigated due to your shields.
If anything, maybe it will spark an idea or you can stick with what you have (same enchantments and attribute allocation).
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That was very helpful. I just got to vet 16, and I wanted to know the best armor as well. I was going for pariah because I thought that my phys/spell resistance would be bad. I was actually between permafrost and pariah.
As to specter s eyes, I was using hist bark, but since I am magicka based, I didnt block much. I know that specter gives you dodge half the time, but I dont want to slot the armor skill. It costs a lot of stamina, and I want to stick with mostly magicka skills.
Overall your comment was very helpful, and I will look into orgnum scales. As to my enchantments and attributes, tha t was helpful as well.0 -
Enraged_Tiki_Torch wrote: »Health. Attribute and Enchantments.
As a Nord, I would suggest trying to take advantage of all their passives. Individually, they are not that great except Rugged which is nice but once you can take advantage of Robust. They can turn into a super-tank.
I like Pariah but in Heavy Armor you get close to the soft cap on Spell Resistance without any aid. It works nice when paired with Light, or Medium. It doesn't offer much in Magicka which becomes de-synergized with being a Nord Templar. This can hurt you because your self-healing (BoL) will be weak without an investment in Magicka. So spells like Blazing Shield are going to become your source of self-survivability since it doesn't scale off Magicka but your Health total.
Pariah will work until you can get your hands on Permafrost, if you don't already. More magicka and magicka recovery plus an additional ~900 Health Recovery while you have a damage shield. Magicka and Magicka Recovery will help ya keep your shields up.
Because Spell Resistance is easy to cap on a Templar, the weakness is Physical Damage. The work around is using shields but one you probably wouldn't think to use. Harness Magicka. This spell will keep the 5 piece bonus from Permafrost on you as Physical damage does not tax this
As to attribute, you said health. I have 40health/19mag/5stam. Should I put more on health?0 -
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✭✭✭✭Tanking stats (magicka) universally seem to be getting near to or at 30K health, at least 15k stam, and the rest in magicka. You'll want to have as close to (if not over) 32.5k physical and spell resistance.
Some good sets to wear are seducer for the 8% magicka cost reduce and footman's fortune for mitigation and cost reduce. A good idea would be to use 5 heavy and 2 light armor pieces to help with sustainability and resource management. The "best" combo is to use light belt and hands, if going the 5:2 split.
As for skills, you'll want defensive stance (either morph) just passively for block cost management, channeled focus for a low cost highly effective resource management (gives 120 magicka every .5 seconds, or essentially an increase of 480 to your magicka regen on top of major armor and spell resist buffs).
Another good idea is purifying ritual for a constant self heal, the lower cost morph also helping any heals you throw out (read: breath of life).
The rest, experiment with. I will tell you that popping channeled focus and blazing shield is a great way to protect yourself while you regain stam, and if you screw up it never hurts to toss in a BoL or two.
Lastly, if I can make a reccomendation, I'd suggest running at least 50 attribute points in magicka. If you use health enchants on armor and use reinforced armor traits and lord mundus stone, you can reach 30k health and armor cap easy enough, and this high focus on magicka means if you craft other sets you can theoretically be a tank, healer, or DPS by switching armor and stone.
TL:DR version- template magicka tanks are fun
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I dont think seducer is the best choice. Because if I get permsfrost and specter eyes it will help with my magicka already, and give tank bonus, such as health and resistance. As to 50 points on magicka, I may do that. If after I get both sets I get more than 30k on health, I will change it.
I noticed that no one commented on my engine guardian. Is it because it is a good choice? I think that it was great for my build, but any advice is welcome.0 -
Yeah Engine Guardian is good. If you run Pariah and Spectre's Eye, you'll have to balance them something like Doc wrote as far as goal stats. For Permafrost and Orgnum's, you want to devote all points to health. You need enough magicka recovery to be able to cast Blazing Shield. Also Health recovery to build up Orgnum's if you drop below 60% health. But you want that comfortable health total for the best Blazing Shield you can get and also for when Orgnum triggers your still outside of being 1-shot.
Shuffle is important, remember Blazing Shield will protect you from taking hits to your stamina pool while blocking. Don't worry much bout Stamina if you got a Temp in your group: Repentance and Shards will alleviate your concerns
Seducer isn't bad if you want that instead of Orgnum's, but I would look at Whitestrakes or Willow's Path. Armor Master is another good one and if you want to PvP, Fasalla's Guile if you can get your hands on it. Keep that hush though cause I hate that set.Edited by Enraged_Tiki_Torch on April 3, 2016 6:10PMMy solution to Champion Point System here0 -
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✭✭I currently use Spectres, Bloodspawn, Willpower and 2pc Eye Of Mara on Sword and Shield just for extra recovery. Can heal/tank all vet dungeons. I off tanked the trials no problem, but never done the full tanking of them as I lack Engine Guardian.
As for attributes, I have 24K Health, 34K magicka and 15K Stamina. I'm a Breton.Edited by WillhelmBlack on April 3, 2016 8:54PMPC EU0