Because then a Torugs Pact staff would be better than a msa restro staff.

It makes sense that it only counts as one despite it taking up both slots.

I do, however, wish there was an enchantment or something that allowed you to make Two-Handed Weapons count as two items just so people can have a bit more diversity when it comes to builds. Everyone, for the most part, Dual Wields (or S&S) to get that extra item slot for the armor set benefits - and it's definitely worth it. It just sucks because the majority of people are using the same weapons.

Should count as 2 instead of one.

You see? most mag build running DW instead of Staff because DW give them more spell damage.

lol staff that make for magician right now is worth less than DW that ZOS intended for stam build.

Talyena wrote: »

If it takes up both hands it should count as two set pieces. And it is kinda silly that two swords give more magic damage than a staff, but I didn't want to mention that on the boards for fear that they would nerf the swords rather than fix the staves.

SB is fine.It trade damage with defending so it already balance no need to buff or nerf.

but DW that give you more spell damage than staff is stupid.

johu31 wrote: »

I'm 2h sword is 7 meters long... It should count as 2.

I don't care what Wrecking Blow says. Your sword is not 23 feet long.

Acrolas wrote: »

johu31 wrote: »

I'm 2h sword is 7 meters long... It should count as 2.

I don't care what Wrecking Blow says. Your sword is not 23 feet long.

Lol I know.. And even though I'm a 2h guy, I agree with you.

Marktoneth3 wrote: »

Should count as 2 instead of one.

You see? most mag build running DW instead of Staff because DW give them more spell damage.

lol staff that make for magician right now is worth less than DW that ZOS intended for stam build.

Doesn't matter if DW gives magicka classes more spell damage. That isn't the best means for maximizing damage.

I can guarantee you I can hit harder and sustain damage better than majority of people using DW with a destroy staff while weaving. People underestimate the Light/Medium weaves from destroy or even a fully charged heavy attack.

Marktoneth3 wrote: »

rokrdt05 wrote: »

Marktoneth3 wrote: »

Should count as 2 instead of one.

You see? most mag build running DW instead of Staff because DW give them more spell damage.

lol staff that make for magician right now is worth less than DW that ZOS intended for stam build.

Doesn't matter if DW gives magicka classes more spell damage. That isn't the best means for maximizing damage.

I can guarantee you I can hit harder and sustain damage better than majority of people using DW with a destroy staff while weaving. People underestimate the Light/Medium weaves from destroy or even a fully charged heavy attack.

If it doesn't matter why most ppl running DW instead of staff ?

No it doesn't. Who cares?

Let people run what they want for their own reasons, and not everyone is running DW. Those that do are doing it for a very specific build, under false impressions that it's better than destro, or for RP reasons. Either way, in the end who cares?

STEVIL wrote: »

Same reason it gets one enchant vs 2, its one weapon.

There ARE consequences to decisions. Chosing 2h or bow or staff or dw or ss have consequences.

That is diverdity.

If for one char set slots for 552 are important, i can choose dw or ss.
For another char if 542 or 533 i can choose any of the ranged weapons or the 2h.

There is a thread running strong on this forum about how much better the 2h skill line is than dw and ss looking at the skills and internal versatility. In my mind, 2H should be better "inside" bc it is one slot less on the outside. So i am ok with that perspective.

Its important to NOT focus on one element, one ingredient or one piece of the puzzle but look at the whole.

Why?

Because if you focus on matching your element, someone else on matching theirs you wind up with sameness.

To me, if you have two 20 dollar bills, i have a 20 and two 10s, another guy has three 10s and a pair of 5s then focusing on "third guy is the only one without a 20 lets fix that" misses the picture.

Ymmv

Finally, someone who understands what the term 'diversity' means. So many people just toss that word around without even understanding what it actually means. People call for Nirnhoned dropped items, buffs to X Y and Z and say, "Why does ZoS hate diversity because these things don't exist?" When in reality, they ADD diversity by making you look at the pros and cons of each, and taking which best tailors to the situation and build, rather than a 'one size fits all' model where everyone just uses the same thing.

If two handed weapons counted as 2 set items in one, then they would all become favored over dual wielding in every mark. They already get double the trait bonus as a 1 handed weapon, so that you don't feel like you're missing out too much. 2 handed weapons offer more than double the damage with LA/HA than their 1h counter part, and have unique utility with their skill trees. 2 handed weapons (staves/melee weps) definitely are in need in some love, but not with the base weapons themselves, but rather their kits.

Probably because it's one piece of equipment.

Marktoneth3 wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

Marktoneth3 wrote: »

It's like I only have 11 items equipped total instead of 12 just like SW and dual wield.
But then again when you look at your weapon slots you will see it take 2 slow which mean it can count as 2 ?

No. It's still only ONE weapon.

It's called two handed because you need two hands to operate it.
Otherwise it would be called a two weapon weapon.


And they're not "weapon" slots. They're hand slots.
And hands don't count for set items. Set items count for set items.

Wait wait wait if it does take hand slot why is not count as 2 when you use 2 hands to hold great sword(not 1 hand like staff)
LMAO

and hands don't count for set items ? then all weapons should not count as set items.

SirAndy wrote: »

Marktoneth3 wrote: »

It's like I only have 11 items equipped total instead of 12 just like SW and dual wield.
But then again when you look at your weapon slots you will see it take 2 slow which mean it can count as 2 ?

No. It's still only ONE weapon.

It's called two handed because you need two hands to operate it.
Otherwise it would be called a two weapon weapon.


And they're not "weapon" slots. They're hand slots.
And hands don't count for set items. Set items count for set items.

A 2 handed sword is so big that it requires 2 hands. Maybe, it's such a big weapon that it has room for 2 enchantment runes.