Nothing was learnt from our 'Hero Costume at ...k?!' cries...

Cazzy · March 2016

(Learned or learnt?)

There was a big backlash when the first iconic hero costume was put on sale for a limited time at an extortionate price. Now I discover the assistants are selling at 5,000k. Surprise - we're not happy again!

I've been avoiding the game and stopped giving them money for a couple of months now. I had hoped the community would be listened to, or, talked to about what we think is fair. Especially for people who pay subs.

So, I'll ask the community: What do you think is a fair price? What exceptions are there? Will you be buying them? Are subscribers getting enough?

Edit: I was looking at returning but this may have tipped me too far

Katahdin · March 2016

There is already a poll, maybe 2 on this and definitely at least 3 other threads.

sirrmattus · March 2016

5K CROWNS LMAO.. thats the cost of the game itself

Thevampirenight · March 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

(Learned or learnt?)

There was a big backlash when the first iconic hero costume was put on sale for a limited time at an extortionate 5,000 crowns. Now I discover the assistants are selling at that price. Surprise - we're not happy again!

I've been avoiding the game and stopped giving them money for a couple of months now. I had hoped the community would be listened to, or, talked to about what we think is fair. Especially for people who pay subs.

So, I'll ask the community: What do you think is a fair price? What exceptions are there? Will you be buying them? Are subscribers getting enough?

Don't over exagerate it was 2500 crowns or so I think maybe I am wrong. Not sure though.

Cazzy · March 2016

Katahdin wrote: »

There is already a poll, maybe 2 on this and definitely at least 3 other threads.

I understand, but this isn't a poll. It's a discussion

Cazzy · March 2016

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

(Learned or learnt?)

There was a big backlash when the first iconic hero costume was put on sale for a limited time at an extortionate 5,000 crowns. Now I discover the assistants are selling at that price. Surprise - we're not happy again!

I've been avoiding the game and stopped giving them money for a couple of months now. I had hoped the community would be listened to, or, talked to about what we think is fair. Especially for people who pay subs.

So, I'll ask the community: What do you think is a fair price? What exceptions are there? Will you be buying them? Are subscribers getting enough?

Don't over exagerate it was 2500 crowns or so I think maybe I am wrong. Not sure though.

I've edited the OP. I could've swarn it was 5k, but that might be my shock at the current prices

Cazzy · March 2016

Also, I don't understand why they're selling at that price separately. In a bundle with a few goodies and noone would mind!

Divinius · March 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

(Learned or learnt?)

Depends on if you are British or not.

"Learnt" is not a word in American English. It's always "learned" for us.

But "learnt" is a common spelling in British English, and is apparently the preferred (and likely original) spelling for them.

There's several other weird verbs that con go either way, depending on location and usage:
burned / burnt
dreamed / dreamt
kneeled / knelt
spoiled / spoilt
spelled / spelt

catalyst10e · March 2016

I'm having trouble understanding something here... You wanted to return but these arbitrary items being sold in the crown store, that are totally optional, and isn't required when playing the game are somehow keeping you? Even after you already swore not to give them any more money. How does all that add up? If you don't like the items or feel they're too high in price, don't buy them... as you've already been doing...

Waseem · March 2016

the problem is not that ZOS list them for 5000 crowns
the problem is people.
people buy them for 5000 crowns. then it worked, next item for 7000 crowns by ZOS, worked? next item by 10000
this is how it works. and people who are walking with the stream are the ones to blame.

Thornen · March 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

5K CROWNS LMAO.. thats the cost of the game itself

Actually you can pick the game up for 18.99 atm so 2x the cost.

Thevampirenight · March 2016

Waseem wrote: »

the problem is not that ZOS list them for 5000 crowns
the problem is people.
people buy them for 5000 crowns. then it worked, next item for 7000 crowns by ZOS, worked? next item by 10000
this is how it works. and people who are walking with the stream are the ones to blame.

They would not get many sells with 5000 or 7000 crowns, best price range is 2500 crowns people will take advantage of that and buy the costume.

idk · March 2016

A large number and players were pleased with the first hero costume. Hence the are releasing a second hero costume.

The dissenters will always be loudest in the forums regardless of their repective numbers.

Katahdin · March 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

There is already a poll, maybe 2 on this and definitely at least 3 other threads.

I understand, but this isn't a poll. It's a discussion

Yea and it's been/being discussed in those 3 threads already. We don't need new ones is my point.

The short answer is no, the clearly havent.

Thornen · March 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

A large number and players were pleased with the first hero costume. Hence the are releasing a second hero costume.

The dissenters will always be loudest in the forums regardless of their repective numbers.

Lol really, everyone I know who bought it ended up with buyers regret and thats like the 2 ppl out of all my guilds and friends list that got it lol.

Cazzy · March 2016

I've clearly been gone too long

Hello to all the new people here!

More threads about something should get noticed.

I wanted ZoS to improve their attitude towards their customers hence my non-return.

The Nord costume was most complained about.

Sorry if I'm not making much sense. I'm currently undergoing exams due to headaches (can cause me to make little sense!)

Xendyn · March 2016

Cazzy wrote: »

I've clearly been gone too long Hello to all the new people here!

More threads about something should get noticed.

I wanted ZoS to improve their attitude towards their customers hence my non-return.

The Nord costume was most complained about.

Sorry if I'm not making much sense. I'm currently undergoing exams due to headaches (can cause me to make little sense!)

I can appreciate your viewpoint but I also know it's futile.
The marketing suits in charge of this aren't going to suddenly have an epiphany and change of heart. It's their job to sell us as much fluff as possible for as much money as they can get.
The only way you can speak is with your wallet but even that is useless unless a huge number of potential buyers do the same.
There's always going to be those "whales" that have to have everything.

Katahdin · March 2016

Xendyn wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

I've clearly been gone too long Hello to all the new people here!

More threads about something should get noticed.

I wanted ZoS to improve their attitude towards their customers hence my non-return.

The Nord costume was most complained about.

Sorry if I'm not making much sense. I'm currently undergoing exams due to headaches (can cause me to make little sense!)

I can appreciate your viewpoint but I also know it's futile.
The marketing suits in charge of this aren't going to suddenly have an epiphany and change of heart. It's their job to sell us as much fluff as possible for as much money as they can get.
The only way you can speak is with your wallet but even that is useless unless a huge number of potential buyers do the same.
There's always going to be those "whales" that have to have everything.

Yes unfortunately this is true. There are those that will buy it anyway. It's been my observation that many that QQ about such things will still buy it in the end. So you're right, the bean counters won't learn or adjust anything in the future because too few of us stick to our guns and refuse to give them money for this stuff.

Cazzy · March 2016

I completely agree. It's just disappointing

Gidorick · March 2016

Waseem wrote: »

the problem is not that ZOS list them for 5000 crowns
the problem is people.
people buy them for 5000 crowns. then it worked, next item for 7000 crowns by ZOS, worked? next item by 10000
this is how it works. and people who are walking with the stream are the ones to blame.

So the community as a whole is at the mercy of idiots?

Dang.

WalkingLegacy · March 2016

Thornen wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

5K CROWNS LMAO.. thats the cost of the game itself

Actually you can pick the game up for 18.99 atm so 2x the cost.

I bought it for 17.99 I believe

Welcome back Cazzy.

waterfairy · March 2016

Divinius wrote: »

burned / burnt

Linguistics isn't my strong point but I don't think those are interchangeable.
I think it's "Zenimax burned us...we're burnt"

Divinius · March 2016

Vigarr wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

burned / burnt

Linguistics isn't my strong point but I don't think those are interchangeable.
I think it's "Zenimax burned us...we're burnt"

They are, actually. In American English, "burned" is typically used as the past tense verb, and "burnt" as the adjective, exactly as you did in your example. However, "burnt" as the past tense verb is common in British English, and "burned" as an adjective is also considered acceptable in American English.

waterfairy · March 2016

Divinius wrote: »

They are, actually. In American English, "burned" is typically used as the past tense verb, and "burnt" as the adjective, exactly as you did in your example. However, "burnt" as the past tense verb is common in British English, and "burned" as an adjective is also considered acceptable in American English.

Silly England English....thanks for the lesson

randolphbenoit · March 2016

Much as I love this game past 2 years it can not be justified an assistant worth more than a DLC... That being said I not complaining rather I let lack of sales be ZOS guide line...

Divinius · March 2016

Vigarr wrote: »

Silly England English....thanks for the lesson

Anytime. I work in a tech field, but grammar and linguistics has always been a hobby of mine. I generally don't correct people on forums (because it just annoys people, and I don't always use proper grammar myself), but if someone asks, I'll relate what I know. Though I will admit that some things really irk me. Like, when I see people use the word "effect" when they really mean "affect" it makes my teeth itch.

Back on topic, yeah, those assistants are a bit overpriced.

Callous2208 · March 2016

Gidorick wrote: »

Waseem wrote: »

the problem is not that ZOS list them for 5000 crowns
the problem is people.
people buy them for 5000 crowns. then it worked, next item for 7000 crowns by ZOS, worked? next item by 10000
this is how it works. and people who are walking with the stream are the ones to blame.

So the community as a whole is at the mercy of idiots?

Dang.

Is this not the same problem, though on a grander scale, with society in general these days?

bedlom · March 2016

Does it matter what we think.

petraeus1 · March 2016

bedlom wrote: »

Does it matter what we think.

Exactly. We got what we paid for. For every new product (including whatever gets into the Crown Store), as happens everywhere, the producer/retailer determines the price.

I can understand people find it too high or don't want to buy it, but the attitude of some that's like 'we know better how to run your business than you do', or 'you better heed us cause we're your customers', I find rather odd.

I've even seen people say things along the lines that ZOS is unethical and their pricing is treating their customers with disrespect/contempt. It's not like they're controlling the water supply and charging gold bars for every gallon.

Let your wallet be your vote.

Vangy · March 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

A large number and players were pleased with the first hero costume. Hence the are releasing a second hero costume.

The dissenters will always be loudest in the forums regardless of their repective numbers.

Out of my average of 3 hours played each day, I have seen a grand total of 0 toons wearing this costume...... Maybe its just me but I think no one really liked the first hero costume.

Epona222 · March 2016

Vigarr wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

burned / burnt

Linguistics isn't my strong point but I don't think those are interchangeable.
I think it's "Zenimax burned us...we're burnt"

No, I am English and it is normal to use burnt. As in "I burnt my toast".