Will ESO get a visual update for PS4.5?

pecheckler · March 2016

With the added GPU power will players be given access to more of the PC versions graphical niceties? I'd sure love to play on PS4 with the view distance that's available on PC. And the other graphical upgrades too.

RAGUNAnoOne · March 2016

Please no not with the framerates the way they are now in most zones.

pecheckler · March 2016

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Please no not with the framerates the way they are now in most zones.

I don't understand. Please explain.

The GPU is expected to be over twice as powerful so it can drive 4K AAA games. That could handle ESO PC's ultra settings at 1920x1080 no problem.

What's your concern?

Woeler · March 2016

pecheckler wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Please no not with the framerates the way they are now in most zones.

I don't understand. Please explain.

The GPU is expected to be over twice as powerful so it can drive 4K AAA games. That could handle ESO PC's ultra settings at 1920x1080 no problem.

What's your concern?

A ps4 APU that is "twice as powerful" as the current PS4 one will still come nowhere close to a 4k machine. Heck, not even if you quadruple it. It's specs are more or less comparable with a GTX-480, which was released 7 years ago.

flguy147ub17_ESO · March 2016

pecheckler wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Please no not with the framerates the way they are now in most zones.

I don't understand. Please explain.

The GPU is expected to be over twice as powerful so it can drive 4K AAA games. That could handle ESO PC's ultra settings at 1920x1080 no problem.

What's your concern?

It wont run 4k games.

imnotanother · March 2016

Woeler wrote: »

pecheckler wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Please no not with the framerates the way they are now in most zones.

I don't understand. Please explain.

The GPU is expected to be over twice as powerful so it can drive 4K AAA games. That could handle ESO PC's ultra settings at 1920x1080 no problem.

What's your concern?

A ps4 APU that is "twice as powerful" as the current PS4 one will still come nowhere close to a 4k machine. Heck, not even if you quadruple it. It's specs are more or less comparable with a GTX-480, which was released 7 years ago.

Come watch a 4k movie on my 4k TV on my ps4, best picture I've seen.

danno8 · March 2016

imnotanother wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

pecheckler wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Please no not with the framerates the way they are now in most zones.

I don't understand. Please explain.

The GPU is expected to be over twice as powerful so it can drive 4K AAA games. That could handle ESO PC's ultra settings at 1920x1080 no problem.

What's your concern?

A ps4 APU that is "twice as powerful" as the current PS4 one will still come nowhere close to a 4k machine. Heck, not even if you quadruple it. It's specs are more or less comparable with a GTX-480, which was released 7 years ago.

Come watch a 4k movie on my 4k TV on my ps4, best picture I've seen.

Streaming a 4K movie /= Playing 4K game.

At all.

Whatzituyah · March 2016

danno8 wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

pecheckler wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Please no not with the framerates the way they are now in most zones.

I don't understand. Please explain.

The GPU is expected to be over twice as powerful so it can drive 4K AAA games. That could handle ESO PC's ultra settings at 1920x1080 no problem.

What's your concern?

A ps4 APU that is "twice as powerful" as the current PS4 one will still come nowhere close to a 4k machine. Heck, not even if you quadruple it. It's specs are more or less comparable with a GTX-480, which was released 7 years ago.

Come watch a 4k movie on my 4k TV on my ps4, best picture I've seen.

Streaming a 4K movie /= Playing 4K game.

At all.

Please don't give Sony a even better excuse to support PS Now. I hate that idea and I would rather have games run locally rather than have a server somewhere else running them. Now I do agree with you but I rather not have streaming games as the new reality.

Egonieser · March 2016

imnotanother wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

pecheckler wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Please no not with the framerates the way they are now in most zones.

I don't understand. Please explain.

The GPU is expected to be over twice as powerful so it can drive 4K AAA games. That could handle ESO PC's ultra settings at 1920x1080 no problem.

What's your concern?

A ps4 APU that is "twice as powerful" as the current PS4 one will still come nowhere close to a 4k machine. Heck, not even if you quadruple it. It's specs are more or less comparable with a GTX-480, which was released 7 years ago.

Come watch a 4k movie on my 4k TV on my ps4, best picture I've seen.

My android nVidia Shield K1 tablet can output 4k for movies/pictures through HDMI 2.0 as well.. What's your point? Playing a game that requires intense graphics rendering and processing has absolutely nothing to do with or anything remotely similar to a movie playback, even at 4k resolutions, it's not even apples and oranges, it's apples and elephants.

Woeler · March 2016

imnotanother wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

pecheckler wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Please no not with the framerates the way they are now in most zones.

I don't understand. Please explain.

The GPU is expected to be over twice as powerful so it can drive 4K AAA games. That could handle ESO PC's ultra settings at 1920x1080 no problem.

What's your concern?

A ps4 APU that is "twice as powerful" as the current PS4 one will still come nowhere close to a 4k machine. Heck, not even if you quadruple it. It's specs are more or less comparable with a GTX-480, which was released 7 years ago.

Come watch a 4k movie on my 4k TV on my ps4, best picture I've seen.

You compare a 4k movie to 4k realtime rendering? Yea I get why you play console. One big lol.

Paulington · March 2016

This "Playstation 4K" as some people are calling it is laughable, there is just no way on Earth it will play 4K games. Even modern graphics cards struggle to hit playable frame rates with 4K resolution and low textures and they are leaps ahead of the PS4 in terms of graphical power. So "doubling" the GPU power of the PS4 is akin to putting a second hamster on the wheel, it is double the power but still far under the power you need.

No issues with console gaming, but some people are selling this as what will bring 4K to the mainstream which is clearly misguided.

zerosingularity · March 2016

Nono it CAN do 4k gaming.

Assuming of course the game is 2d

sprite based

and at 15 frames per second.

Woeler · March 2016

Yea and the GPU I have that runs my ESO on 4k with decent fps (decent, not perfect) costs twice the price of a complete ps4.

Uriel_Nocturne · March 2016

Not to mention, the PS4.5 won't sell well at all, IMO.

I Game primarily on my PC and Xbox One, but I also own a PS4, so let's not assume that I'm "console hating" or "brand ***". I'm a Gamer, not a brand fanatic.

But let's look at this from an economic view.

The PS4 is barely 2.5 years old. Same with the Xbox One. Both systems cost in the area of $400-$500 dollars at launch. Many console gamers choked at those price tags, but paid it anyway because the new Genration was here. I'm one of them.

But even I'm balking at shelling out another $400-500 for a console that doesn't even have three years under its proverbial belt.

And it seems like even more of a hair-trigger/snap decision as it came very shortly after Microsoft announced plans to allow the Xbox One to be up-gradable via "plug-N-play" upgrades. Meaning the One can keep advancing with technology's pace, rather than having to shell out hundreds every 3-5 years. Hard Drives, CPU, Graphics Cards, RAM increases... all are on the table for upgrading in much the same manner as a PC would (which makes quite a bit of sense coming out of Microsoft).

But back to my original point; I don't think it will sell well because it's far too soon. Not many development companies will get behind a system that won't have a decent player base moving to it, and it's too soon for most console Gamers to stomach the cost (as I said above).

So I don't think there is any realistic chance (or even far-fetched chance) that any developer such as Zeni will make yet another version of the game simply to give the PS4.5 a bit better graphics (because that's really what it would entail).

Nova Sky · March 2016

Sony, in my humble opinion, is making a gigantic mistake if it splits its console market like this. (On a slight aside, it sure as heck didn't take them long to get cocky again after retaking first place in the so-called "console wars.)

NewBlacksmurf · March 2016

Seriously doubt it unless it's maybe a big DLC and base game update like what just occurred on PC. That took 2 years tho and alienated many so....prob not

This whole idea that a backwards compatible new hardware console somehow seperated the player base is pretty rediculous. Ppl who have iPads and iPhones are seperated on games....only that one is more useful than the other as far as hardware and obviously the game runs better with updated hardware. Looks wise....it's often times the exact same

shadowwraith666 · March 2016

Sort out the current framerate (including server stability) issues first before adding more stuff.

TequilaFire · March 2016

I will buy one as long as it stays backwards compatible which there is no technical reason why it would not be.
Never hurts to have more processor power.

Been wanting to build another high end PC too but nothing has come out on the PC hardware market recently that is that much better than what I have already.

Tholian1 · March 2016

If this is even true, I suspect that Sony realized their VR headset is going to need a console with a little bit more horsepower.

As far as ESO is concerned, the rumored new console would probably just run the game more smoothly.

Egonieser · March 2016

People don't realize that the only reason Sony announced it is because Microsoft announced it, but MS does it because they are currently on a "Windows10 unified platform" plan between PC, Xbox and Windows 10 phones/tablets and are also scrapping the idea of Xbox-only exclusives, instead they are going for "Windows-only" exclusives (check the latest announcements by Phil Spencer and other MS suits) - because that is a MUCH larger player base than just consoles alone, they are just as interested in PC gamers as consoles (because 90% of PC games are MS Windows based).

Also, Sony needs to beef up their hardware because of the VR headsets they are launching. Even though basic in comparison to Oculus or Vive, the current hardware is still far from "minimum" to run anything but the most basic VR games. They don't just do it for the sake of it, they are doing it to try and maintain their dominance currently and not fall behind the competition.

DragonSamurai360 · March 2016

I don't play on PS4 I play on Xbox One, but it looks really gorgeous on Xbox One even better than what my laptop looked like with the game on a 40 inch HDTV. I am not familiar with a lot of the PlayStation 4's capabilities, but even if the quality is equal with the Xbox One I don't think it needs to be visually upgraded, especially if the resolution is higher on the PlayStation 4 version than the Xbox One version. I have a feeling that the PS4 4K is going to take at least a year or two after it's launch before multi-platform developers develop for it with minor issues and people go out and buy one with a 4K UHDTV. Heck I just got a newer 40 inch 1080p HDTV and now everyone's jumping on the 4K bandwagon, I'm gonna be waiting until it actually has A LOT of supported games before I even think about jumping, since computer hardware has a heck of a time with 4K games as it is and I bet the new PS4 4K will have more issues at the beginning than 4K capable computers which are expensive as he double hockey sticks.

bedlom · March 2016

pecheckler wrote: »

With the added GPU power will players be given access to more of the PC versions graphical niceties? I'd sure love to play on PS4 with the view distance that's available on PC. And the other graphical upgrades too.

Lol what view distance? Pc is all fog too and the add ons to remove it makrs it look weird.
The graphics are alot better but pop in, fog and delayed textures is all the same on pc.

Lonewolf628 · March 2016

Honestly, the ps4 graphics are pretty bad for today's standards. I don't get why though. Is it because of Zos graphics engine or is it the ps4 hardware? I've seen some graphically impressive games on ps4, but I also know that mmo graphics are never top tier.

WalkingLegacy · March 2016

Lonewolf628 wrote: »

Honestly, the ps4 graphics are pretty bad for today's standards. I don't get why though. Is it because of Zos graphics engine or is it the ps4 hardware? I've seen some graphically impressive games on ps4, but I also know that mmo graphics are never top tier.

MMOs have to make a few sacrifices to run smoothly on subpar hardware. Plus, ESO engine is craptastic. I mean, on extreme/ultra settings it looks pretty darn good PC, but nothing amazing like Conan or TSW back in their haydays.

SP games usually designed to run specifically on that system. It's why the uncharted games look pretty damn good for being on subpar hardware.