Woah slow down man redguard is a perfectly good race NO need to reroll.

Vigarr wrote: »

I feel like I'm doing it wrong as I have a medium armor dual wield stamina NB Redguard that's weaker then my light armor Altmer sorcerer or my 2H heavy armor Orc DK.
I know Redguard isn't the ideal race so I plan on rerolling to a Khajiit with the same setup but I don't want to struggle solo when friends aren't available like I do with my Redguard.

What skill set and rotation do you use and is it successful for solo play?

YOU CRAZY BRO..


redguard is the most ideal unless your building for crit. even if you are your redguard will only hav 8% less crit than khajiit but lots more stamina.

dw and 2h is what i would suggest.

1st bar: fear, shuffle (or whatever you want), ambush, steel tornado, surprise attack, soul harvest
2nd bar: cloak, rapids (or whatever you want), pierce mark (or whatever you want), vigor(or whatever you want), RALLY!, soul tether

that right there should take you a long way.. 5x hunding and 4x night silence is great all around setup

TheShadowScout wrote: »

I found my stamina NB the most difficult of my alts to run well. Though by now, I can manage... the thing is, without the sneak attack backstab, I always had trouble reaching other builds capabilities, which makes pvP a "gank or loose" kind of thing. And PvE sometimes iffy as well... still, I find it more fun to rise up to the challenge, and that one of ym characters IS the one I enjoy most playing!

Stamina Nightblade is probably the best stamina class

Personally I run 2h/bow and focus on weapon damage, who needs stealth when you can smash faces in with a big club? Shadow cloak and ambush are for utility more than anything for me.

Nestor wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Do not use those abilities in pve for stamina nightblade

Why? They don't scale, so using your off resource does not hurt you.

In pve its about damage not survival. If you kill things you don't need to try and survive

Redguard > Khajiit. Maybe except for being a bow ganker. But even then the difference won't be much. (PvP)

For PvE: (endgame wise) You'll have a hard time. Stamblade dps is quite at the bottom atm, and while I know a few great players who are capable of pulling incredible numbers for stamblades, they are simply outperformed by better classes like magDK or sorc. But can't really tell you anything about it, as I lack the experience.

For PvP: Stamblade is still good, even though stamina in general took a nerf with this patch while magicka has become supreme due to different sets and changes to CP. But well, you can still make it work in PvP, it's just not as easy as it used to be. I run 2h + bow from maelstrom, endurance jewelry, kena, bloodspawn and hundings rage. I prefer having a bit more regen and health for more survivability. I only switch to dualwield/2h if I really need AoE.

My skills: 2h: ambush/crit rush, surprise attack, executioner, fear, rally, soul harvest/flawless dawnbreaker/werewolf
bow: shuffle, cloak, vigor, volley/relentless focus/mark, shadow image, soul tether/werewolf

EsoRecon wrote: »

In pve its about damage not survival. If you kill things you don't need to try and survive

So, your talking about Trials then?

I find that if you dont have a heal. Cloak and Fear are your biggest survival tools.

Vigarr wrote: »

I feel like I'm doing it wrong as I have a medium armor dual wield stamina NB Redguard that's weaker then my light armor Altmer sorcerer or my 2H heavy armor Orc DK.
I know Redguard isn't the ideal race so I plan on rerolling to a Khajiit with the same setup but I don't want to struggle solo when friends aren't available like I do with my Redguard.

What skill set and rotation do you use and is it successful for solo play?

It's not your fault, stamblade isn't really strong right now compared to manablade and manasorc. There is no reason to roll a Khajiit, because Redguard is the best race for stamina builds by far (unless you want to play a vampire... who sucks anyway at the moment).

However, would highly recommend using 5x Morkuldin or 5x Shieldbreaker. The rest depends on the gear that is available to you. If you have undaunted gear you can use Malubeth, Enginge Guardian, 1x Kena + 1x Bloodspawn, 2 Bloodspawn, ... doesn't really matter. For weapons 2hand and bow, or 2hand and sword and board or 2hand and dualwield (msa weapons for 2hand and bow if you have them otherwise go 2 pieces endurance/agility on your dualwield or sword and board bar). If you don't have any undaunted pieces you can also go for 4 bodypieces clever alchemist, 3 bodypieces morkuldin, on dualwield/sword and shield bar 2 pieces morkuldin and on backbar (2hand) 1 piece clever alchemist. Wait for the Morkuldin procc, swap to backbar, use potion and try to burst your opponent.

When I leveled my NB, I used 5 pieces Hundings Rage and 4 pieces (using Dual Wield, 3 pieces with bow) Night's Silence (you can also use Night Mothers instead). I do 5 medium, 1 light and 1 heavy for the undaunted bonus (Vet level), but it's also good to do that when leveling so you'll max out all armor skills by V16.

I did nights silence, because I made a 5th piece that I could swap out when doing stealing, so I would get the no speed penalty when stealth.

I'll use Bow/DW or Bow/2H depending on the content. 2H is good for the Rally buff, and Brawler for survivablity on large mobs. I prefer DW, cause I would rather fight with 2 daggers (feels more like an assasin) and the DPS is just as good. Use Power Extraction if you are using DW, so you can get the 20% damage buff. Use Surprise Attack on single targets, Steel Tornado on groups and Killers Blade to finish them off.

For the Bow, Bombard is a great AOE and roots enemies to keep them off you. Snipe for high damage single targets.

Other useful skills. Reapers Mark, gives huge heal on kill, so cast it on an enemy about to die and get about 60% of your health back. Relentless Focus gives stam regen and extra damage. Siphoning Attacks for stam regen on attacks. (if you are running out of stamina a lot, also good in group dungeons where fights are longer). I also use Ambush as a gap closer.

At V16 I'm running 5 Hundings Rage, 3 Night Mothers, 1 Molag Kena (Don't have blood spawn, never drops for me) and 3 Endurance Jewerly.

When I did the math, the Endurance Jewerly gave me slightly less weapon damage (about 150 less) than all Agility, however it gives me more stamina regen and health, etc. And at a 200k+ gold difference, it didn't seem worth it to go for the Agility.

I have 11 Attributes in Health and the rest in Stamina, all enchants are Stamina as well. 20k Health, 32k Stamina, and with buffs nearly 4k Weapon Damage, and about 1700 Stamina Regen.

I can also swap out my armor for another set I have, and I can Tank with 30k Health, 25k Stamina, 25k Resistance and so forth. That set is V14 Footmans and Hist Bark, 5 pcs each plus 2 pieces Engine Guardian. Haven't upgraded to a V16 set yet.

imnotanother wrote: »

I am an Imperial stam night blade. I run:
2x V. Skoria (light and heavy)
5x Hundings rage (medium)
Dagger and axe/bow of Night Mothers
3x agility jewelry

Armor enchanted with stamina
Everything else weapon damage

21k+ Health
38k+ Stamina
3,700+ weapon damage.

Bar 1: cloak, ambush, surprise attack, killers blade, steel tornado, Flawless dawn breaker

Bar 2: vigor, focused aim, siphon attacks, arrow barrage, razor caltrops, ice comet.

Think you're overall DPS will increase with weaving heavy attacks with poison arrow instead of snipe. Plus cast time on snipe makes it unreliable, and you can't really do much for the 1 second constantly, so you will lag behind a group....oh and with the weaving light/heavys, you'll build ult faster Otherwise agree

Vigarr wrote: »

I feel like I'm doing it wrong as I have a medium armor dual wield stamina NB Redguard that's weaker then my light armor Altmer sorcerer or my 2H heavy armor Orc DK.
I know Redguard isn't the ideal race so I plan on rerolling to a Khajiit with the same setup but I don't want to struggle solo when friends aren't available like I do with my Redguard.

What skill set and rotation do you use and is it successful for solo play?

If you are leveling there are 2 abilities that make it ridiculously easy as a stamblade.

2h Cleave
Bow Bombard.

Also rally in 2h is a great heal that is always useful.

DW lacks a few things to be effective at soloing.

reften wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

I am an Imperial stam night blade. I run:
2x V. Skoria (light and heavy)
5x Hundings rage (medium)
Dagger and axe/bow of Night Mothers
3x agility jewelry

Armor enchanted with stamina
Everything else weapon damage

21k+ Health
38k+ Stamina
3,700+ weapon damage.

Bar 1: cloak, ambush, surprise attack, killers blade, steel tornado, Flawless dawn breaker

Bar 2: vigor, focused aim, siphon attacks, arrow barrage, razor caltrops, ice comet.

Think you're overall DPS will increase with weaving heavy attacks with poison arrow instead of snipe. Plus cast time on snipe makes it unreliable, and you can't really do much for the 1 second constantly, so you will lag behind a group....oh and with the weaving light/heavys, you'll build ult faster Otherwise agree

I will have to test this out. I like using focused aim while in sneak or on bosses for long range. It is quite useful for when picking players off in Pvp too.