yes.

alot if the weapons are v16

Thank you for the answers, just to make sure and clarify I'm not talking about a staff to spell damage or mace to weapon damage, but the specific example above.

Gotcha, yea I knew about the passives and everything just wanted to be 100% on the up in general. Made the change to dual wield for a new build and the cost of tempering on console is a little ridiculous right now. Thank you everyone for the replies.

Concenaros wrote: »

Hey guys,

Since this is a Magicka Q thread and I don't wanna make a new thread just for this simple question...

Whats the advantages to Dual sword over Destruction Staff? Is it just better DPS or something? (Total Noob question, I know)

Sorry OP in advance for posting a Q in your Thread.

If a player has enchants and traits ...the two in the character stat sheet apply more than one destruct staff with the those same enchants and traits

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Concenaros wrote: »

Hey guys,

Since this is a Magicka Q thread and I don't wanna make a new thread just for this simple question...

Whats the advantages to Dual sword over Destruction Staff? Is it just better DPS or something? (Total Noob question, I know)

Sorry OP in advance for posting a Q in your Thread.

If a player has enchants and traits ...the two in the character stat sheet apply more than one destruct staff with the those same enchants and traits

Ah thanks for the reply. I guess that does make sense.

Since we are on the subject, something I've always wondered..... Staves. Do they base off of spell damage or weapon damage? May be a no brainier/duh sort of question, but one that has always been in the back of my mind.

Vigarr wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

You get higher spell damage with dual wield than you do with a staff (because spell damage is based on weapon damage plus modifiers, and you have higher weapon damage), and with swords in particular there's a passive in the dual wield line that increases your damage done with swords equipped.

So you get better DPS at the expense of some sustain (no heavy attacks that restore magicka) and not being able to use destro staff skills. Also you can only weave light attacks if you're in melee, which isn't what some magicka DPS builds want.

Wow why would spell damage feed off of weapon damage if staffs are the staple of a sorcerer? Makes no sense imo...I've always assumed it's based on magicka like weapon damage is with stamina.

So is it higher stamina=higher weapon damage= higher spell damage?

The wording of the dual wield passive is increase damage done by x%, spell damage falls in to that. That's why you see so many sorcs/magic based characters running 2 swords over a staff

Yes, you get a spell damage boost from upgrading your weapons, either to higher levels or higher quality, or both. The gain is not large, usually maybe +1-2% per level and/or quality level upgrade. Easiest way to see the difference is by checking the tooltip value for damage done on slotted spells, with and without the new weapons.

Dual wield Swords help your spell damage and damage done in a few ways:
1. You can slot TWO weapons. Every weapon that you slot provides a certain amount towards your overall spell damage. MOST weapons provide the same amount (for a specific level and quality), i.e. staves, bows and one-handed weapons all provide about the same boost to your spell damage. The exception is that Two-handed Swords, Axes and Mauls all provide about 80-85% more of a damage boost than one-handed weapons do. That said, the boost from two one-handed weapons is higher than that from a single two-hander.
2. The "Twin-blade and bunt" passive in the dual-wield line gives you a 2.5% damage boost PER sword - this applies to spell damage too. Note that there is a similar passive for two-handed weapons which gives 2H Swords a +5% increase to your damage done. You need to have the passive enabled to get either boost, of course.
3. With dual-wield swords, you have the possibility of one additional set item bonus, over a single slot weapon (e.g. staff or 2H weapon). If this is a Torug's pact set, you can get extra spell damage for having 2 items of the set - or there are other configurations where you can tweak your build so that you have extra magic or spell damage when you have dual wield weapons in the set, over whatever is in your other bar.

Note that you may still prefer to slot a Destruction staff to have ranged or AOE magic DPS abilities - it's not as easy to build up ultimate if you are ranged and can't do light attacks on the boss with your shiny dual wield swords...