AP has value now. Thank you ZoS.

Ghost-Shot · March 2016

heystreethawk wrote: »

Nice fights on Had last night, VE! Looking down at the multiple walls under siege I yelled to me group 'TIS BUT THE DREAM OF FROZN, GIVEN FORM

THE VAMPIRE ASSASSINS, WHERE ARE THE VAMPIRE ASSASSINS?!

HoloYoitsu · March 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

heystreethawk wrote: »

Nice fights on Had last night, VE! Looking down at the multiple walls under siege I yelled to me group 'TIS BUT THE DREAM OF FROZN, GIVEN FORM

THE VAMPIRE ASSASSINS, WHERE ARE THE VAMPIRE ASSASSINS?!

If you can see them, they're failing at their job.

heystreethawk · March 2016

It was daytime! They were asleep in a tomb

Edit: daytime in Cyrodiil that is

HoloYoitsu · March 2016

heystreethawk wrote: »

It was daytime! They were asleep in a tomb

Edit: daytime in Cyrodiil that is

Nah, ESO vamps are like Twilight vamps, they put on Harness Magicka and sparkle in the sun.

olsborg · March 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

I just saw a PvPer with tons of stored up AP say "nah, I bought it with gold. Didn't want to spend the AP on it."

ZoS, between forward camps and buffed siege and the weekly item vendor, you've finally given us truly worthwhile goods to buy with our AP.

And they're (mostly) bind on equip, so we as PvPers can actually participate in the markets and make money again!

The AP market system is still not perfect (LF v16 PvP set containers), but it's a huge step forward. Thank you.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Yes its good, but looong overdue.

heystreethawk · March 2016

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

heystreethawk wrote: »

It was daytime! They were asleep in a tomb

Edit: daytime in Cyrodiil that is

Nah, ESO vamps are like Twilight vamps, they put on Harness Magicka and sparkle in the sun.

It's a great way to regain magicka + secretly the reason why vamps were OP in days of yore, but the fact of the matter is that you can't catch 40 winks if you're refreshing harness every other sunshine tick

KenaPKK · March 2016

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

heystreethawk wrote: »

It was daytime! They were asleep in a tomb

Edit: daytime in Cyrodiil that is

Nah, ESO vamps are like Twilight vamps, they put on Harness Magicka and sparkle in the sun.

_Chaos · March 2016

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

Scamandros · March 2016

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

You must leave it to simmer uncovered for at least 20 minutes before extracting gold. Common mistake

KenaPKK · March 2016

Scamandros wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

You must leave it to simmer uncovered for at least 20 minutes before extracting gold. Common mistake

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

Before the patch, I was keeping 2mil saved and selling all the rest that I made at a 5:1 ratio without any trouble.

I was able to make about 300k gold per week on solo and small group AP earnings. The ratio is about 7:1 now, but I'm still able to find buyers. Advertise "WTS AP in large quantities" in PvE and trader guild chats and zone chats. People will buy it.

_Chaos · March 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

Scamandros wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

You must leave it to simmer uncovered for at least 20 minutes before extracting gold. Common mistake

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

Before the patch, I was keeping 2mil saved and selling all the rest that I made at a 5:1 ratio without any trouble. I was able to make about 300k gold per week on solo and small group AP earnings. The ratio is about 7:1 now, but I'm still able to find buyers. Advertise "WTS AP in large quantities" in PvE and trader guild chats and zone chats. People will buy it.

7:1 won't cut it, I want real ratios that are on par with what a PVE player would make in a week in the same amount of play time. Selling motifs for gold, what a joke. How about some *** gear.

KenaPKK · March 2016

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Scamandros wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

You must leave it to simmer uncovered for at least 20 minutes before extracting gold. Common mistake

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

Before the patch, I was keeping 2mil saved and selling all the rest that I made at a 5:1 ratio without any trouble. I was able to make about 300k gold per week on solo and small group AP earnings. The ratio is about 7:1 now, but I'm still able to find buyers. Advertise "WTS AP in large quantities" in PvE and trader guild chats and zone chats. People will buy it.

7:1 won't cut it, I want real ratios that are on par with what a PVE player would make in a week in the same amount of play time. Selling motifs for gold, what a joke. How about some *** gear.

Fair enough, but it's what we have at the moment.

GRxKnight · March 2016

Rofl at the people who spent 200k + on VD rings only to see their prices tank a couple days later (and I'm one of those people)...managed to get 150k for two rings though instantly after it happened so good value there...now to find those VD necks before they're available this weekend

KenaPKK · March 2016

I'd rather spend the AP than gold on rings myself. Not much else to spend AP on, but rings and undaunted pieces are very useful to have.

Ghost-Shot · March 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Scamandros wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

You must leave it to simmer uncovered for at least 20 minutes before extracting gold. Common mistake

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

Before the patch, I was keeping 2mil saved and selling all the rest that I made at a 5:1 ratio without any trouble. I was able to make about 300k gold per week on solo and small group AP earnings. The ratio is about 7:1 now, but I'm still able to find buyers. Advertise "WTS AP in large quantities" in PvE and trader guild chats and zone chats. People will buy it.

7:1 won't cut it, I want real ratios that are on par with what a PVE player would make in a week in the same amount of play time. Selling motifs for gold, what a joke. How about some *** gear.

Fair enough, but it's what we have at the moment.

This is the problem, you can't tell ZOS they're doing a good job on a system that is seriously lacking or they will take that to mean they are doing a competent job which they are not. AP does not have much value and will not until the elite vendor and the bags are available in v16.

Ghostbane · March 2016

GRxKnight wrote: »

Rofl at the people who spent 200k + on VD rings only to see their prices tank a couple days later (and I'm one of those people)...managed to get 150k for two rings though instantly after it happened so good value there...now to find those VD necks before they're available this weekend

During those moments when everyone scrambled to buy rings and sell them, I scourged the guilds for a purple neck. Somehow, got one for 200k

before the purge happened.

KenaPKK · March 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Scamandros wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

You must leave it to simmer uncovered for at least 20 minutes before extracting gold. Common mistake

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

If AP has value now, why can I not make any gold with the tens of millions of AP I have?

Before the patch, I was keeping 2mil saved and selling all the rest that I made at a 5:1 ratio without any trouble. I was able to make about 300k gold per week on solo and small group AP earnings. The ratio is about 7:1 now, but I'm still able to find buyers. Advertise "WTS AP in large quantities" in PvE and trader guild chats and zone chats. People will buy it.

7:1 won't cut it, I want real ratios that are on par with what a PVE player would make in a week in the same amount of play time. Selling motifs for gold, what a joke. How about some *** gear.

Fair enough, but it's what we have at the moment.

This is the problem, you can't tell ZOS they're doing a good job on a system that is seriously lacking or they will take that to mean they are doing a competent job which they are not. AP does not have much value and will not until the elite vendor and the bags are available in v16.

Yea, we need v16 vendor bags badly, which I mentioned. In my opinion, though, pointing out positive changes among all the complaints that are still on the forums will serve to highlight progress and point ZoS in the right direction. They know PvP is messed up, but honestly the progress lately has been positive overall.