viciouse death sets

Dk_needs_a_buff · March 2016

Some people might love the spund of this. But eavryone will get anoyed with it sooner or later. This will ruin pvp. Eavryone charges through a keep door 3-4 meteors hit you that you can no longer reflect so they are going to hit you..... eavryone dies. People qho think this is a good idea will get screwed by it

should they get rid of it? What you guys thoughts and opinions?

Ender1310 · March 2016

Don't charge? I think this the idea. Put some thought and strategy into te zerg

Mr_Nobody · March 2016

I think its a perfect fix for the purge/barrier/spring groups who all they have done since 1.6 is push a keep in a ball.

Dk_needs_a_buff · March 2016

Hmm i kinda get it . But this set imo is just way to much. Should do less damage

Dk_needs_a_buff · March 2016

Ender1310 wrote: »

Don't charge? I think this the idea. Put some thought and strategy into te zerg

So lets all not charge and wait outside the keep? No lol. I like the idea but lower the damage

or let it affect 1 or 2 people

Septimus_Magna · March 2016

Its only 70% health dmg if the fool next to you dies, nothing to be worried about lol

Dk_needs_a_buff · March 2016

If your hit by a comet wich you will be because you cant reflect it ir dodge it and the guy next to you dies. You get hit by that set plus the damage of the comet... you die

timidobserver · March 2016

It will encourage people to declump. I want to see it on action for a few weeks before any changes are made to it.

Dk_needs_a_buff · March 2016

They will change it though. 100% fact

MishMash · March 2016

I think this will cause a lot of negative issues with groups and solos.

Reznique · March 2016

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

They will change it though. 100% fact

?

Edziu · March 2016

magica det - magica zerg buster skill
vicious death - magica zerg buster set

so give players stamina based zerg buster skill and stamina zerg buster set...then or less QQ because build balance

or more QQ and removing/nerf to the ground all these skills, sets because to much people using it

and then noob zerg will be only the past, no more aoe spam I believe

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · March 2016

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

Some people might love the spund of this. But eavryone will get anoyed with it sooner or later. This will ruin pvp. Eavryone charges through a keep door 3-4 meteors hit you that you can no longer reflect so they are going to hit you..... eavryone dies. People qho think this is a good idea will get screwed by it

should they get rid of it? What you guys thoughts and opinions?

I like the set. everyone said the same thing about detonation, and pvp is still just as busy as when the QQers said they would quit from that.

this game desperately needs mechanics to allow smaller groups to take on bigger groups, or as soon as a major zerg forms there is nothing to be done but counterzerg then complain about lag.
this set is good, it also makes single target MORE relevant in group play if you turn their death into powerful aoe.
also, try editing before you post...

Apoxsee · March 2016

Now groups may have to seige multiple spots on the outside and inside of keeps to get the same desired effect... Personally I like the idea of the meteor being dropped on the meta of keep sieging.

bowmanz607 · March 2016

I think people are overreacting to the meteor change. Sure it takes away an element of skill, but the only people reflecting the dang things were dk and one hand and shield users. This change does not effect most players. Sorcs will continue to shield stack. Templar will continue to block heal. Stam will continue to block then dodge. This is essentially a nerd to dk which got a huge buff this time anyway. A one hand a shield user can still choose the the morph that absorbs rather than reflects.

catalyst10e · March 2016

This sounds more like a nerf meteor thread than it does a "change vicious death set" thread.... First of all, no, it's not going to "ruin" PVP. The zerg groups organized enough to rush in with 3-4 meteors is the same group who would also have people use a suppression field, which would have prevented you from using reflect anyways. If your group is dumb enough to be standing at the door waiting for the zerg to get in, you deserve to get unreflectable meteor to the face. Some of the best fights I've had when attempted to take a keep came about when the enemies were either waiting in stealth in a corner and all rushed us at the last second (after everyone thought there was little to no resistance) or when we've taken the first flag and suddenly get Dragon leaped from above.

If your strategy is to stand around in a ball at the front door, flapping your wings to prevent the inevitable meteors that such a ball group begs to be hit with, yes, this set will "ruin" your PVP experience.... If you however spread out a bit, set some siege, surprise the enemy, or heck, even use the set yourself to try and zerg bust the zerg trying to take the keep, your experience can only be enhanced by this set.

Dk_needs_a_buff · March 2016

I just got hit for 16k by the viciouse death set. Only in a gtoup of 3. My friend whos new dies anf i take 16k damage. That just should not happen guys. So many people have left eso because of this. I dont want the game to die

Oreyn_Bearclaw · March 2016

I have died to it maybe twice in the last 2 weeks, but I dont run in a zerg ball. I have also been running it for about a week. I definitely get killing blows with it, but not as many as I thought I would. Mostly I think it has upped the number of auxiliary kills I get, because even if it doesn't get a killing blow, it usually puts you in a bad spot to take 13-15k damage. Mostly, I just like watching people explode when they die.

timidobserver wrote: »

It will encourage people to declump. I want to see it on action for a few weeks before any changes are made to it.

I agree that it needs to be left alone for a few weeks and see where it's at. I dont think its game breaking by any stretch. I think it was a crude but relatively effective solution to stopping zerg balls, which is a step in the right direction. Could you imagine the outrage if this set is nerfed into the ground by the people that just spent a million plus gold on a jewelry set? haha

catalyst10e · March 2016

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

I just got hit for 16k by the viciouse death set. Only in a gtoup of 3. My friend whos new dies anf i take 16k damage. That just should not happen guys. So many people have left eso because of this. I dont want the game to die

Not to sound facetious, but what were you doing that close to begin with? Just because you had a group of 3 doesn't mean it's safe to be right next to each other. With VD set out and more people using inevit det, your brothers and sisters in arms just became a liability... spread out more. Where are the numbers that back up the claim "so many people have left eso because of this." ? I've been killed maybe twice from it, and both times I can claim it was without a doubt my own fault for being that close to the group, especially when I'm a ranged DD sorc. The community will need to adjust, yes... and not ball up so much. But this will not cause the end of the game.

MoeCoastie · March 2016

I thought ppl wanted no AoE cap so people would die and cause less lag? people are dying in droves now and youre still not happy? oh yeah, lag is still here too!

Oreyn_Bearclaw · March 2016

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

I just got hit for 16k by the viciouse death set. Only in a gtoup of 3. My friend whos new dies anf i take 16k damage. That just should not happen guys. So many people have left eso because of this. I dont want the game to die

I know of nobody that has left eso because of this. PvP is pop locked at prime-time. I think the lesson is don't stand next to new players. The radius of the explosion is really not very big.

Xsorus · March 2016

Edziu wrote: »

magica det - magica zerg buster skill
vicious death - magica zerg buster set

so give players stamina based zerg buster skill and stamina zerg buster set...then or less QQ because build balance
or more QQ and removing/nerf to the ground all these skills, sets because to much people using it and then noob zerg will be only the past, no more aoe spam I believe

Its called Bombard..and it screws zergs over

Lylith · March 2016

Xsorus wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

magica det - magica zerg buster skill
vicious death - magica zerg buster set

so give players stamina based zerg buster skill and stamina zerg buster set...then or less QQ because build balance
or more QQ and removing/nerf to the ground all these skills, sets because to much people using it and then noob zerg will be only the past, no more aoe spam I believe

Its called Bombard..and it screws zergs over

sometimes.

other times, you die.

GreenSoup2HoT · March 2016

Xsorus wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

magica det - magica zerg buster skill
vicious death - magica zerg buster set

so give players stamina based zerg buster skill and stamina zerg buster set...then or less QQ because build balance
or more QQ and removing/nerf to the ground all these skills, sets because to much people using it and then noob zerg will be only the past, no more aoe spam I believe

Its called Bombard..and it screws zergs over

shhhhh!!

WillhelmBlack · March 2016

ZOS want every magic user with this set to spread everyone out. It's a lag fix, why do you think they made it so OP and easy to obtain? The purple rings are in stock at the vendor right now.

Stannum · March 2016

good antizerg set, now zergballs can be affected by chain reaction, useless against spread groups.
So more tactics to the god of tactics!

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · March 2016

Annulment And heal/hardening Ward takes care of that.

strikeback1247 · March 2016

The vicious death set is the most fun I've had in a very long time. I can punish ball groups hard, but it's very difficult against spread out groups.

DHale · March 2016

Only ppl who h@@p each other's leg need to worry about vicious. No more stack on crown no more balling up. Think of is as I am going to blow my friends up. Best thing to happen to pvp.... Since mmmmm pvp.

Dk_needs_a_buff · March 2016

Dont get me wrong i hate ball groups. But i always play in a small group 3-4 players. And 1 of my friends are new and only a fresh vet 1. He died yesterday and i got hit for 18k from this set. And then a finisher and i died. Its ruined the game for us. I dont think this set is the answer

Dk_needs_a_buff · March 2016

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Dk_needs_a_buff wrote: »

I just got hit for 16k by the viciouse death set. Only in a gtoup of 3. My friend whos new dies anf i take 16k damage. That just should not happen guys. So many people have left eso because of this. I dont want the game to die

I know of nobody that has left eso because of this. PvP is pop locked at prime-time. I think the lesson is don't stand next to new players. The radius of the explosion is really not very big.

My friends list were full of eso playera and most of them have messaged me saying theyr not playing anymore untill zenimax sorts it out. The set hits far to hard.imo it has to go