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Option for Only Lore-Themed Loadscreen Tips?

DerAlleinTiger
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Everyone's talking about the big issues and all that, so I'm not gonna go and beat the thousand dead horses all lying around here. But this is something that came up while chatting with some of my guildies. For some areas, especially certain delves and quest dungeons, there are some interesting lore tidbits in the load screen 'tips' at the bottom. A lot of these can't be gleaned anywhere else in the game and can provide some nice context for lorehounds. Especially for Argonian and Khajiit players - whose lore is already a skeleton compared to Dunmer, Imperial, and Nord lore - these little scraps are great to digest while questing!

The problem is that more than half the time you get about halfway through reading the information before it suddenly changes to "DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN BUY NEW MOUNTS IN THE CROWN STORE?!" "DID YOU KNOW HEALTH POTIONS ARE RED?!" "DID YOU KNOW SWORDS ARE POINTY?!"

I've been playing the game almost non-stop (not literally, for you smart-allecks about ready to snark it up) since launch day. I was even playing before then in all the beta weekends from the November before. I'm pretty sure I know the differences between heavy, medium, and light armor by now. Or the difference between green and blue quality items. What I might not have picked up, however, are those little nuggets of lore that long-time fans like me always enjoy stumbling across.

Some sort of little option somewhere for lore-only load screen tips would be nice for those of us who know the game mechanics inside and out but still enjoy learning new bits of lore. It's something small, but would just be a nice little thing to see. And I figure it's something other than Hew's Bane FPS threads.
Edited by DerAlleinTiger on March 23, 2016 1:06AM
  • baratron
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    Agree, and bumping for good measure.
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  • Divinius
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    100% agree. For as seemingly insignificant a complaint as this is, it's one of the things that's annoyed me the most consistently for a very long time. I have an SSD in my gaming PC, and it skips by those lore notes faster than I can read them, every single time.

    I really wish they would give us an option to never display those virtually useless "game tips" and keep the lore-based notes on the loading screen instead. They wouldn't even need a new checkbox... they could just tie it to the "tutorials" checkbox. Once you turn off the tutorials, you don't see those stupid tips either.
  • Tonnopesce
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    It was rolling in my mind from two years now...
    Random loading screen => 1-2 second of the lore of the place i'm about to visit => 1-2 minutes of random crap...
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  • NeillMcAttack
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    Actually makes perfect sense. Although a simple fix to swap the order in which the current tips are loaded would work just as well. In all my time, and having played through all content, I'd say only a handful of times had I the time to actually read the lore based tip.
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  • Faulgor
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    Can't believe this hasn't been fixed yet. Been this way since launch iirc.
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  • Liukke
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    Bumping, didn't know swords were pointy!

    (Just joking, I love lore too!)
  • AmakarGranaen
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    It was rolling in my mind from two years now...
    Random loading screen => 1-2 second of the lore of the place i'm about to visit => 1-2 minutes of random crap...


    "Hey, there's lore, cool!"

    Long ago when...WANNA BUY SOME CROWNS???




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  • Lucius_Aelius
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    Bump, very annoying to me as well, my one saving grace is that my xbox lets me record clips of stuff that happened in the past 30 seconds, which I make use of every time this happens, and it pretty much always happens so I use this feature A LOT, playing back the clip and pausing it so I can properly read the caption. It's not always that interesting, but I like to decide that for myself, and often I do find it says some intriguing things.
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  • captainwolfos
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    Rat-King wrote: »
    It was rolling in my mind from two years now...
    Random loading screen => 1-2 second of the lore of the place i'm about to visit => 1-2 minutes of random crap...


    "Hey, there's lore, cool!"

    Long ago when...WANNA BUY SOME CROWNS???




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  • Xendyn
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    Either of those ideas would work. I keep getting caught out while trying to read those, too.

    Also, can we get some new load screen pics for Cyro since we have to look at them so much? :|
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  • Tonnopesce
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    Rat-King wrote: »
    It was rolling in my mind from two years now...
    Random loading screen => 1-2 second of the lore of the place i'm about to visit => 1-2 minutes of random crap...


    "Hey, there's lore, cool!"

    Long ago when...WANNA BUY SOME CROWNS???




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  • AmakarGranaen
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    I spent a frankly embarrassing amount of time on that >_>;


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  • Tonnopesce
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    The funny thing in all this, is that they actually PAY someone to write all those lore phrases and there is one for every place of the game...
    This "issue" is a good way to appreciate someone work... is more like a kick in the face.
    Edited by Tonnopesce on March 23, 2016 6:47PM
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  • Ra'Shtar
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    Yes i want this too i have no need for those old tips i want to be able to read the lore of the location without having to go tova third party website.
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    +1 this. It's very jarring to have it switch mid-read.
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  • Gidorick
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    +1 for this idea. Simple, yet effective.
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  • NovaMarx
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    I have been thinking about making a similar post for some time, because this bugs the hell out of me! I love reading little random factoids, and get quite annoyed when I don't get to read it all. I would much rather they just stick with the fun lore, and keep the gameplay tips for the Help section, chat, and forums :wink:
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  • Niaver
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    Yes, please, yes.
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  • Dhukath
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    Can't believe this hasn't been fixed yet. Been this way since launch iirc.

    So true, I'm sure I've see "Adjusted the time delay between messages on loading screens" or the like in several of the older natch potes.
  • Recremen
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    Yes, please and thank you.
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  • Tatumi
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    Couldn't agree more! Been playing for a week now and I'm already annoyed by the gameplay tips interrupting the lore bits on loading screens :s
  • Katahdin
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    Yes, I'm sick of not being able to read the lore info because it flips to the other info too fast.
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  • nudel
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    I absolutely agree with this. In beta, there was a time when all the loadscreens displayed the lore for the area you were entering every time. At some point near launch, they added the game tips into the rotation. I immediately asked that the lore at least be set to display for the first time you enter an area and they consented. However, its implementation is flawed in that it doesn't remain for the entirety of that first loading screen. The lore is up for the briefest of moments, not long enough to read.... and then I'm looking at a tip about running off in random directions to explore.

    I would wholly support this as a check in settings, if it's possible and doesn't create infinite loading screen problems.
  • emeraldbay
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    +1,000

    I'd rather read the lore than be told how to weapon swap over and over. I've been playing since release, please, I know how to play the game. :|
  • bedlom
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    Agreed and a bump : )
  • Whook
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    I just started playing last month, and maybe one of the countless tips was of minor use to me. Now I've been googling how to turn them off, because I want to see the lore for the area I go into. I play with my wife and often start reading it to her 'hey, this is cool, we are going into .... hit [.] to see your cursor."

    An option to turn off the tips would be priceless. We spend a large percentage of our playtime staring at those screens, how about restoring their appeal.
  • DPShiro
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    I've been wanting this since release, can't be hard to do and would be insanely appreciated!
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  • Divinius
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    Dear ZOS,

    Still waiting for this.

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  • dimensional
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    Divinius wrote: »
    Dear ZOS,

    Still waiting for this.

    Love, Divi

    Same. I absolutely can't stand reading those "tips" on the loading screens. I understand it might be nice for new players but give us a damn toggle at least!!
  • QuebraRegra
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    Everyone's talking about the big issues and all that, so I'm not gonna go and beat the thousand dead horses all lying around here. But this is something that came up while chatting with some of my guildies. For some areas, especially certain delves and quest dungeons, there are some interesting lore tidbits in the load screen 'tips' at the bottom. A lot of these can't be gleaned anywhere else in the game and can provide some nice context for lorehounds. Especially for Argonian and Khajiit players - whose lore is already a skeleton compared to Dunmer, Imperial, and Nord lore - these little scraps are great to digest while questing!

    The problem is that more than half the time you get about halfway through reading the information before it suddenly changes to "DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN BUY NEW MOUNTS IN THE CROWN STORE?!" "DID YOU KNOW HEALTH POTIONS ARE RED?!" "DID YOU KNOW SWORDS ARE POINTY?!"

    I've been playing the game almost non-stop (not literally, for you smart-allecks about ready to snark it up) since launch day. I was even playing before then in all the beta weekends from the November before. I'm pretty sure I know the differences between heavy, medium, and light armor by now. Or the difference between green and blue quality items. What I might not have picked up, however, are those little nuggets of lore that long-time fans like me always enjoy stumbling across.

    Some sort of little option somewhere for lore-only load screen tips would be nice for those of us who know the game mechanics inside and out but still enjoy learning new bits of lore. It's something small, but would just be a nice little thing to see. And I figure it's something other than Hew's Bane FPS threads.

    LISTEN TO THIS PERSON!!!!!!

    I posted on this over a year ago... the way it switches from the lore info during the load to the junk info is broke. The lore screens for the locations are fascinating and need to be fixed.
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