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My first campaign experience..

  • Jaronking
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    I hate the "walk through them" response... combat is usually so fast paced that walking through a WB is hard to do imo
    Personally it depends on the class your playing on my Sorc yea its hard but on my Stamblade its pretty easy to do.I think as a Magical class or maybe a range class thing you are more stationary and not really force to move unless you have to so yooyr reaction time is a little bit to slow.On my NB am always moving around so its easier to walk through or dark cloak it.
  • ArchMikem
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    Cyrodiil is mainly about player skill, gear is slightly important but because of battle levelling you can craft yourself some 2-3 trait sets make them blue and easily be viable for pvp.

    Problem with this game is that there is a lot of people (complete 100% pvp noobs) go into pvp and get killed by far more skilled players.

    That's what I am. I have a Purple destruction staff and I have x4 sets of Twilight's Embrace and Soulshine, all blue and I've battled players who were literal brick walls. But because I and many others lose horribly every time you'll just say we need to learn to play.

    And no one should have any patience for people like that either.
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  • Jaronking
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Cyrodiil is mainly about player skill, gear is slightly important but because of battle levelling you can craft yourself some 2-3 trait sets make them blue and easily be viable for pvp.

    Problem with this game is that there is a lot of people (complete 100% pvp noobs) go into pvp and get killed by far more skilled players.

    That's what I am. I have a Purple destruction staff and I have x4 sets of Twilight's Embrace and Soulshine, all blue and I've battled players who were literal brick walls. But because I and many others lose horribly every time you'll just say we need to learn to play.

    And no one should have any patience for people like that either.
    Well the problem is those sets aren't great you still have to have a decent build or you will get rekt.Especially on Sorcs I fight some low level who hit harder then some Vet16 sorcs its crazy.
  • wskill
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    wskill wrote: »

    A: *** the meta, im not using "the right morphs' whatever they are im using morpsh that correspond and resonate with the build im making.
    B: No im not a heavy armor using character on my dualwield spellsword but a medium armor using character but ill be incorporating some light pieces because im going glass cannon damage with traps and other proximity covering explosion generating skills such as caltrops and the magic mines. The reason i have dualwield is for blade cloak and the bouncing throwing dagger.
    C: I give 0 *** about competition, i just expect balance. Winning to me has never been the goal, the goal is to relax. And sabotage by unbalanced warblegarble never relaxes.
    D - Z: Pvp in eso is *** and i will treat it like *** from now on focussing wholly on flushing *** by laying minefields caltrops and other garbage everywhere on the screen and then running away.

    Wtf is your actual build, what class, armour and weapons do you use, sounds like a L2P issue as well as build issue.

    Just because something works in Pve doesn't mean it will work in pvp. You could literally run around naked in pve and still complete it.

    Pvp is an entirely different story.
    Depends on what character you talk of, i have 3 characters i play and 2 more that i sometimes play.

    The characters i play are:
    wskill: breton nb archer focussing on shadow and assassin skillts.
    friend friend: altmer nb healer focussing on siphoning and healing staff skillts.
    tahago: khajit sorc two swordser focussing on dark and dualwield skillts.

    Those i dont play alot because i get bored fast:

    ipos: redguard sorc shieldmacer focussing on lightning spells, defensive stuff mainly and debuff with puncture.
    haobziba: nord dk 2h axer focussing soley on earthen heart.

    Anyway back to my mains i use these skills on wskill: magnum shot and the hunter xbow from fighter guild and also shadow invisibility to get a free critical shot :) later i will get the skill that lets you summon a shadow archer that you can teleport to and the skill that i can shoot a ghostbow or whatever it was called every few hits.

    on friend friend (i solo instance/hard group dungeons with this one): main skill i use here is the first siphoning attack that gives you hp regen, also use the healer abillity that gives higher hp regen and i have the ult that gives hp regen for everyone in area, also use skill to gain more magic str the blue spirit thing that sounds like a hit or dunno what its called. Need to get the healer siphoning skill also and another but i dont remember the name.

    on Tahago (my newest character so thats why hes low lvl but i rly like him) : i have the dualwield attack that hits alot of times and throws enemies off balance, i plan to replace that one cause its counter productive if youre not a tank i think, i better use quicker moves that dont require me to stand still for 10 seconds. .. anyway also use the explosion magic with the morph that it procs faster (dark magic) and the magic atm that snares enemies and then explodes, but im rly working to get the dark mines one and the fighters guild caltrops also. Oh and ofcourse the dremora armor combined with blade cloak for my defensive/stilloffensive side. Dont have dremora armor yet but almost cause its lvl28 i think skill line.

    I dont know what you mean with armour and weapons i just use whats best atm as loot. So if you mean sets or artifacts i dont have those sorry!! i do have set items on wskill but just random parts i throw into the bank and dont look at cause they suck so far or are greatswords that i dont use.
    I do use some individual parts sometimes if they have better armor than what i used.

    Hope this is enough information :)

    server: EU. platform: PS4. psn: Calamaistr (empty FR will be deleted)

    Wskill: Breton, as nb, bow, alchemy, tailor, woodsman. pec: hooded.
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    Ipos: Redguard, strm sor, mace & shield, enchanter. pec: beard and mohawk.
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    Friend: Altmer, siph nb, healstaff, sage. pec: slim.
  • Obliterate
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    wskill wrote: »
    i die because that bs boss had too high hp

    Lmao man you just seem like a sore looser, I've only played a week myself I have one level 35 character and I can expect to loose now and then its part of learning to play a game, and there's a reason its called a boss.

    Edited by Obliterate on March 23, 2016 5:00PM
  • wskill
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    Obliterate wrote: »
    wskill wrote: »
    i die because that bs boss had too high hp

    Lmao man you just seem like a sore looser, I've only played a week myself I have one level 35 character and I can expect to loose now and then its part of learning to play a game, and there's a reason its called a boss.

    The dungeon was 10 lvls above my lvl and tbh i was doing a whole map/area 10 lvls above my lvl (alikr desert) i just wanted to see how far i could get, did a few other dungeons prior to it that went fine untill i was pitted against this no-counterplay direct dmg through walls and everything (something i ofcourse cant as neither a mage or an archer) mage with 10x more hp than other bosses in any dungeon of that map, theres your answer.
    server: EU. platform: PS4. psn: Calamaistr (empty FR will be deleted)

    Wskill: Breton, as nb, bow, alchemy, tailor, woodsman. pec: hooded.
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    Ipos: Redguard, strm sor, mace & shield, enchanter. pec: beard and mohawk.
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    Friend: Altmer, siph nb, healstaff, sage. pec: slim.
  • mcurley
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    For your archer:

    Find a way to have Major Brutality up 100% of the time.

    Piercing Mark for debuff/visibility, Magnum Shot him for distance when he isn't immune, Crippling Grasp him for snare. Kite him with Shadowy Disguise and keep landing as many Poison Arrows on him as you can. If he gets close either Dodge Roll through his WB into another Shadowy Disguise to make more distance or hit him with Magnum Shot again. Basically just keep as much distance as possible while landing damage... also Silver Bolts is much more Stamina intensive than Poison Arrows so you might consider switching to that for spammable/weavable damage.


    I suggest joining the non-vet campaign or at least the no-CP campaign until you have a good amount of CP. It's going to be an uphill battle for you in PVP until you have the ability to min/max your build with the appropriate sets.
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  • Shaiba
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    wskill wrote: »
    (i solo instance/hard group dungeons with this one)
    Can you name the hard group dungeons you've done with your char ? If you think boss of a solo dungeon if overpowered i hardly doubt you can solo real hard group dungeon. +solo dungeon's boss aren't real boss there're more like elite mobs to me.

    Edited by Shaiba on March 23, 2016 5:21PM
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  • wskill
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    Shaiba wrote: »
    wskill wrote: »
    (i solo instance/hard group dungeons with this one)
    Can you name the hard group dungeons you've done with your char ? If you think boss of a solo dungeon if overpowered i hardly doubt you can solo real hard group dungeon. +solo dungeon's boss aren't real boss there're more like elite mobs to me.

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    server: EU. platform: PS4. psn: Calamaistr (empty FR will be deleted)

    Wskill: Breton, as nb, bow, alchemy, tailor, woodsman. pec: hooded.
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    Ipos: Redguard, strm sor, mace & shield, enchanter. pec: beard and mohawk.
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    Friend: Altmer, siph nb, healstaff, sage. pec: slim.
  • wskill
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    mcurley wrote: »
    For your archer:

    Find a way to have Major Brutality up 100% of the time.

    Piercing Mark for debuff/visibility, Magnum Shot him for distance when he isn't immune, Crippling Grasp him for snare. Kite him with Shadowy Disguise and keep landing as many Poison Arrows on him as you can. If he gets close either Dodge Roll through his WB into another Shadowy Disguise to make more distance or hit him with Magnum Shot again. Basically just keep as much distance as possible while landing damage... also Silver Bolts is much more Stamina intensive than Poison Arrows so you might consider switching to that for spammable/weavable damage.


    I suggest joining the non-vet campaign or at least the no-CP campaign until you have a good amount of CP. It's going to be an uphill battle for you in PVP until you have the ability to min/max your build with the appropriate sets.

    I dont want most of those skills on my character, hes a shadowy guy not a poison archer and i dont want crippling grasp either also i want silver shards its great and looks cool.
    server: EU. platform: PS4. psn: Calamaistr (empty FR will be deleted)

    Wskill: Breton, as nb, bow, alchemy, tailor, woodsman. pec: hooded.
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    Ipos: Redguard, strm sor, mace & shield, enchanter. pec: beard and mohawk.
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    Friend: Altmer, siph nb, healstaff, sage. pec: slim.
  • mcurley
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    wskill wrote: »
    mcurley wrote: »
    For your archer:

    Find a way to have Major Brutality up 100% of the time.

    Piercing Mark for debuff/visibility, Magnum Shot him for distance when he isn't immune, Crippling Grasp him for snare. Kite him with Shadowy Disguise and keep landing as many Poison Arrows on him as you can. If he gets close either Dodge Roll through his WB into another Shadowy Disguise to make more distance or hit him with Magnum Shot again. Basically just keep as much distance as possible while landing damage... also Silver Bolts is much more Stamina intensive than Poison Arrows so you might consider switching to that for spammable/weavable damage.


    I suggest joining the non-vet campaign or at least the no-CP campaign until you have a good amount of CP. It's going to be an uphill battle for you in PVP until you have the ability to min/max your build with the appropriate sets.

    I dont want most of those skills on my character, hes a shadowy guy not a poison archer and i dont want crippling grasp either also i want silver shards its great and looks cool.

    I'm just telling you how to counter a WB spammer with a NB archer. Take the advice or leave it... but if you aren't willing to alter your hero to make it more apt for PVP then what was the point of this whole thread?
    For the Covenant!
    Svvord - magicka NB
    Lavv - magicka DK
    Povver - stamina NB
    Psylint - stamina NB
    Yelruc - magicka Sorc
  • wskill
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    mcurley wrote: »
    wskill wrote: »
    mcurley wrote: »
    For your archer:

    Find a way to have Major Brutality up 100% of the time.

    Piercing Mark for debuff/visibility, Magnum Shot him for distance when he isn't immune, Crippling Grasp him for snare. Kite him with Shadowy Disguise and keep landing as many Poison Arrows on him as you can. If he gets close either Dodge Roll through his WB into another Shadowy Disguise to make more distance or hit him with Magnum Shot again. Basically just keep as much distance as possible while landing damage... also Silver Bolts is much more Stamina intensive than Poison Arrows so you might consider switching to that for spammable/weavable damage.


    I suggest joining the non-vet campaign or at least the no-CP campaign until you have a good amount of CP. It's going to be an uphill battle for you in PVP until you have the ability to min/max your build with the appropriate sets.

    I dont want most of those skills on my character, hes a shadowy guy not a poison archer and i dont want crippling grasp either also i want silver shards its great and looks cool.

    I'm just telling you how to counter a WB spammer with a NB archer. Take the advice or leave it... but if you aren't willing to alter your hero to make it more apt for PVP then what was the point of this whole thread?


    Telling of my first campaign experience and how pvp is a joke when you cant expect to deal with a single move being spammed with 4 people against one.
    server: EU. platform: PS4. psn: Calamaistr (empty FR will be deleted)

    Wskill: Breton, as nb, bow, alchemy, tailor, woodsman. pec: hooded.
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    Ipos: Redguard, strm sor, mace & shield, enchanter. pec: beard and mohawk.
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    Friend: Altmer, siph nb, healstaff, sage. pec: slim.
  • mcurley
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    wskill wrote: »
    mcurley wrote: »
    wskill wrote: »
    mcurley wrote: »
    For your archer:

    Find a way to have Major Brutality up 100% of the time.

    Piercing Mark for debuff/visibility, Magnum Shot him for distance when he isn't immune, Crippling Grasp him for snare. Kite him with Shadowy Disguise and keep landing as many Poison Arrows on him as you can. If he gets close either Dodge Roll through his WB into another Shadowy Disguise to make more distance or hit him with Magnum Shot again. Basically just keep as much distance as possible while landing damage... also Silver Bolts is much more Stamina intensive than Poison Arrows so you might consider switching to that for spammable/weavable damage.


    I suggest joining the non-vet campaign or at least the no-CP campaign until you have a good amount of CP. It's going to be an uphill battle for you in PVP until you have the ability to min/max your build with the appropriate sets.

    I dont want most of those skills on my character, hes a shadowy guy not a poison archer and i dont want crippling grasp either also i want silver shards its great and looks cool.

    I'm just telling you how to counter a WB spammer with a NB archer. Take the advice or leave it... but if you aren't willing to alter your hero to make it more apt for PVP then what was the point of this whole thread?


    Telling of my first campaign experience and how pvp is a joke when you cant expect to deal with a single move being spammed with 4 people against one.

    But we are telling you how you can literally deal with this type of enemy... and you just keep fighting against the advice. Are you saying PVP is a joke because you didn't know how to counter this play style before you went into Cyrodiil for the first time? That just doesn't make sense at all.

    I promise you if someone is just spamming WB over and over again they will die 100% of the time to anyone who knows what they're doing... that doesn't mean they won't wipe the floor with any number of people who do not know what they're doing.
    For the Covenant!
    Svvord - magicka NB
    Lavv - magicka DK
    Povver - stamina NB
    Psylint - stamina NB
    Yelruc - magicka Sorc
  • Shaiba
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    wskill wrote: »
    Lol hard group dungeons are normal mode dungeon scaled lvl 10 ? ok then, we really aren't talking about the same stuff, this is easy dude^^ Normal dungeons can be soloed by nearly everyone, even more if it's scaled down. It won't help you during your PvP fights. In PvP you can fight against skilled players, it's way harder than easy PvE content.

    Will you retry PvP using all advices people told you in this thread ?
    Edited by Shaiba on March 24, 2016 12:09AM
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