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Got a new Magicka NB video....Vicious Death ftw

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    Yay, an Argonian!

    Nice vid I suppose.. Getting really tired of people thinking Vicious Death bombs are something special.
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  • Xsorus
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Yay, an Argonian!

    Nice vid I suppose.. Getting really tired of people thinking Vicious Death bombs are something special.

    At one point..my poor Argonian was a great race for NBs :o(

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    -3/10 for originality
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    Literally all I get killed with now. Even when I'm solo. Still, enjoyable to watch.
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    Its a good ap farm you have there but now its so common in ESO - magblade with proxy and VD that its getting a little ridiculous.
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    We need more Fasalla's Guile bomb videos.

    Until then, I really enjoyed this. Nice work. That IC door bomb was timed perfectly.
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  • Xsorus
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    -3/10 for originality

    Very few things will be original now a days... I mean for example I could do a dual bow stamina dk video for example... That might seem original till you realize it's just spamming bombard a lot....

    I could do a health regen dk video also.. I had thought about it at one point but it's mostly just 1v1 fights and slowly killing the enemy.

    They've really haven't released any builds I've seen that people don't expect anymore... Just nature of the beast I guess
    Edited by Xsorus on March 23, 2016 8:30AM
  • KenaPKK
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Yay, an Argonian!

    Nice vid I suppose.. Getting really tired of people thinking Vicious Death bombs are something special.

    At one point..my poor Argonian was a great race for NBs :o(

    I love Argonians! It's a highly underrated race, especially for mageblade.

    Xsorus wrote: »
    -3/10 for originality

    Very few things will be original now a days... I mean for example I could do a dual bow stamina dk video for example... That might seem original till you realize it's just spamming bombard a lot....

    I could do a health regen dk video also.. I had thought about it at one point but it's mostly just 1v1 fights and slowly killing the enemy.

    They've really haven't released any builds I've seen that people don't expect anymore... Just nature of the beast I guess

    I am more concerned about the skill ceiling of builds than their originality. Burst mageblade with alchemist and VD is simple and binary with little variety or counterplay. The mageblade runs in, blows the same combo, and everyone under it dies instantly. About the only semblance of skill in playing burst mageblade with VD is how you manage your exit.

    Don't take this personally -- it's not intended to be a reflection of your skill at all, simply the nature of burst dual wield proxy mageblade.

    But I do believe there is quite a bit of room for originality in ESO in general. :( Take destro/resto mageblade for instance:

    I consider my staff mageblade setup to be original. Well before Imp City even hit PTS, I theorycrafted my destro/resto mageblade build, which combines the 2 Kena + 5 Magnus synergy with abilities that can be prepared before proccing Kena in order to achieve indefinite ~4500 spell damage uptime. I use Swallow Soul, which has low cost, together with Merciless Resolve, layered dots, and Meteor for both high sustained damage and high burst without stressing my magicka pool with the 2 Kena proc or having to charge up 33% extra ult.

    Then you have the only other mageblade that I saw using a 100% ranged setup until very recently, @TheBull with his Blood Flow build, which is entirely different from mine while still being "destro/resto mageblade."

    And the burst dual wield proxy mageblade with Vicious Death is only one variation on dw mageblade. There are other variations which don't use proxy, opting for less burst, or which don't use a gap closer, preferring to remain more stationary. There are those which use ranged dps abilities on the resto bar for reach, and those which limit themselves entirely to melee damage. There are those which use the slipperiness and windows of aggression afforded by vampirism and invisibats, and there are plain ol' humans. Some nightblades prefer to play around rocks and other terrain, and others prefer open fields (myself and Anti-Matter are examples of this, for example). Heck, simply slotting Shade adds a whole new dimension to a person's patterns of play that is lacking without that one ability. All of these variations combine with players' individual preferences to create original play styles that are interesting to watch.

    Burst dw proxy Vicious Death mageblade is just...easy to achieve good results with. Everyone seems to be picking it up now, and all the fights look the same.
    Edited by KenaPKK on March 23, 2016 9:57AM
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  • yelloweyedemon
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    Literally all I get killed with now. Even when I'm solo. Still, enjoyable to watch.

    If you're getting killed by VD NBs while solo, then you need to rethink some things...
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    I love my build and play style.

    10 gold stars for you. And a stamp.
  • phillyboy7897
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    I am proud of you OP. good job wrecking those balls. through your skill and build and that of other players like you ball groups will be phased out. The server needs you to not die! So kudos man and well done! Mag NB definitely overpowered but they seem to have a necessary role in the Cyrodiil food chain. Ball group no longer apex predator. No one group or play style should be apex predator.


    Different builds are possible I will be theorycrafting a mag temp tank build for thieves guild tomorrow since it is finally live for us.

    I had a duel that came down to resource sustain tonight. In fact I have duels where sustain and smart play matters often. this has not been eliminated from the game despite common belief.

    The issue is nobody can wtfpwn like a VD mag NB, and wtfpwning is what ppl want to do so there will be many explosions :)

    I can tell u I'm gonna do whatever it takes to not get exploded, and hop on mag nbs hit with sweeps but not until after I let him kill that ball group :)
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    KenaPKK wrote: »
    Yay, an Argonian!

    Nice vid I suppose.. Getting really tired of people thinking Vicious Death bombs are something special.

    At one point..my poor Argonian was a great race for NBs :o(

    I love Argonians! It's a highly underrated race, especially for mageblade.

    Xsorus wrote: »
    -3/10 for originality

    Very few things will be original now a days... I mean for example I could do a dual bow stamina dk video for example... That might seem original till you realize it's just spamming bombard a lot....

    I could do a health regen dk video also.. I had thought about it at one point but it's mostly just 1v1 fights and slowly killing the enemy.

    They've really haven't released any builds I've seen that people don't expect anymore... Just nature of the beast I guess

    I am more concerned about the skill ceiling of builds than their originality. Burst mageblade with alchemist and VD is simple and binary with little variety or counterplay. The mageblade runs in, blows the same combo, and everyone under it dies instantly. About the only semblance of skill in playing burst mageblade with VD is how you manage your exit.

    Don't take this personally -- it's not intended to be a reflection of your skill at all, simply the nature of burst dual wield proxy mageblade.

    But I do believe there is quite a bit of room for originality in ESO in general. :( Take destro/resto mageblade for instance:

    I consider my staff mageblade setup to be original. Well before Imp City even hit PTS, I theorycrafted my destro/resto mageblade build, which combines the 2 Kena + 5 Magnus synergy with abilities that can be prepared before proccing Kena in order to achieve indefinite ~4500 spell damage uptime. I use Swallow Soul, which has low cost, together with Merciless Resolve, layered dots, and Meteor for both high sustained damage and high burst without stressing my magicka pool with the 2 Kena proc or having to charge up 33% extra ult.

    Then you have the only other mageblade that I saw using a 100% ranged setup until very recently, @TheBull with his Blood Flow build, which is entirely different from mine while still being "destro/resto mageblade."

    And the burst dual wield proxy mageblade with Vicious Death is only one variation on dw mageblade. There are other variations which don't use proxy, opting for less burst, or which don't use a gap closer, preferring to remain more stationary. There are those which use ranged dps abilities on the resto bar for reach, and those which limit themselves entirely to melee damage. There are those which use the slipperiness and windows of aggression afforded by vampirism and invisibats, and there are plain ol' humans. Some nightblades prefer to play around rocks and other terrain, and others prefer open fields (myself and Anti-Matter are examples of this, for example). Heck, simply slotting Shade adds a whole new dimension to a person's patterns of play that is lacking without that one ability. All of these variations combine with players' individual preferences to create original play styles that are interesting to watch.

    Burst dw proxy Vicious Death mageblade is just...easy to achieve good results with. Everyone seems to be picking it up now, and all the fights look the same.

    You can run quite a few different setups with nightblades; but they always play very similar.. Basically switching the gear out determines how good your solo capability is vs zerg busting capability.. For example just changing out from vicious to Magnus makes me far better in solo fights because my magicka regen doesn't suck complete ass... However I lost my bombing capability. I can still someone solo with the build if I choose to pop you with a soul tether prox combo.. But having 800 regen vs 1400 is such a huge difference.

    For the record When I'm fighting and not bombing I'll swap to restro and funnel/light attack a lot
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    I am proud of you OP. good job wrecking those balls. through your skill and build and that of other players like you ball groups will be phased out. The server needs you to not die! So kudos man and well done! Mag NB definitely overpowered but they seem to have a necessary role in the Cyrodiil food chain. Ball group no longer apex predator. No one group or play style should be apex predator.


    Different builds are possible I will be theorycrafting a mag temp tank build for thieves guild tomorrow since it is finally live for us.

    I had a duel that came down to resource sustain tonight. In fact I have duels where sustain and smart play matters often. this has not been eliminated from the game despite common belief.

    The issue is nobody can wtfpwn like a VD mag NB, and wtfpwning is what ppl want to do so there will be many explosions :)

    I can tell u I'm gonna do whatever it takes to not get exploded, and hop on mag nbs hit with sweeps but not until after I let him kill that ball group :)

    Nightblades are super good at bombing; but a magicka dk supported by a group can be extremely nasty as well.

    I'm tempted to try and do my dual bow stamina dk video.... Won't be super great solo but it might be funny to watch
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    Do it man but if u are going for funny it's gotta be super funny for ppl to like it. Get the right music and or commentary too. the song "overpowered" by that one chick comes to mind
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    Roisin Murphy .. That song belongs in a lot more PvP videos... especially nerf ones, a lyric she repeats at least 10x is "it's long overdue I'm overpowered" lmao
  • DKsUnite
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    shout out at 2:45 to me for grouping them all up for you and defiling them all :D
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    I dunno if that's how shout outs work but gj!
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    Lol, I dont know if VD is a good thing or a bad thing but is fun to watch.... :p
  • zyk
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    Nice bombing.

    General rant, not directly related to the video:

    I think the "skill" commentary in vd video threads is silly. In a game like this, it's not always about demonstrating superior skills or a unique build. Sometimes--or usually, depending on preference--it's about using the best tools for the job at hand and executing.

    Furthermore, videos aren't only about "look at my elite demonstration of skills", they are also about "hey, I think this is entertaining, maybe you do too." Why even watch a vd bomb video you know you probably won't like and then post something negative about it?
    Edited by zyk on March 23, 2016 12:09PM
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    Bc this is eso forums and that happens In every topic. I tried to help fend off some people doing it recently, but I can't even probably say what happened to me because that's against the rules too.
    Edited by phillyboy7897 on March 23, 2016 12:14PM
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    I wonder if mentioning the rules is against the rules.. Dunno.. I refuse to read them. At any rate discussion about the video negative or positive is valid material for the thread I guess
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    I hope the drop rate of VD is as good on PS4 as it seems to be on PC, maybe a little too good
    seeing how so many have it all ready. lol
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    I hope the drop rate of VD is as good on PS4 as it seems to be on PC, maybe a little too good
    seeing how so many have it all ready. lol

    People just hardcore pvp a lot on Pc, some people grind nearly 500k-1m ap a day there, especially solo with the new ap changes.

    Some bombs i've seen nets someone like 18k+ ap... xD Where going to have solo nb bomb emperors soon.
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    Literally all I get killed with now. Even when I'm solo. Still, enjoyable to watch.

    If you're getting killed by VD NBs while solo, then you need to rethink some things...

    Why is that? Rethink things like what?
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    zyk wrote: »
    Nice bombing.

    General rant, not directly related to the video:

    I think the "skill" commentary in vd video threads is silly. In a game like this, it's not always about demonstrating superior skills or a unique build. Sometimes--or usually, depending on preference--it's about using the best tools for the job at hand and executing.

    Furthermore, videos aren't only about "look at my elite demonstration of skills", they are also about "hey, I think this is entertaining, maybe you do too." Why even watch a vd bomb video you know you probably won't like and then post something negative about it?

    You posted this because you also threw up a copy paste bomb vid as well lololol
  • yelloweyedemon
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    Literally all I get killed with now. Even when I'm solo. Still, enjoyable to watch.

    If you're getting killed by VD NBs while solo, then you need to rethink some things...

    Why is that? Rethink things like what?

    Like your whole playstyle, class build and understanding of the game probably?

    VD NBs might be perfect for picking off random n00by pugs and 1 shot them, but in 1v1 they are free AP vs any semi-serious player.
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    zyk wrote: »
    Nice bombing.

    General rant, not directly related to the video:

    I think the "skill" commentary in vd video threads is silly. In a game like this, it's not always about demonstrating superior skills or a unique build. Sometimes--or usually, depending on preference--it's about using the best tools for the job at hand and executing.

    Furthermore, videos aren't only about "look at my elite demonstration of skills", they are also about "hey, I think this is entertaining, maybe you do too." Why even watch a vd bomb video you know you probably won't like and then post something negative about it?

    You posted this because you also threw up a copy paste bomb vid as well lololol

    No. I posted because it needed to be said. There's too much thread crapping. It's like someone who doesn't enjoy duels posting negative rants in every single duel video thread. The same goes for GvG or raid footage. To each their own.
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    Literally all I get killed with now. Even when I'm solo. Still, enjoyable to watch.

    If you're getting killed by VD NBs while solo, then you need to rethink some things...

    Why is that? Rethink things like what?
    • Impen on at least a few pieces of gear
    • CP damage reduction and critical reduction
    • 20k morale or higher
    • Blocking, roll dodging, or general movement
    I think these are basics for any PvP situation, not just surviving VD NB.
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