[Video] EU Non Vet......Help me L2p I cant Xv1

Most_Awesome
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Main action starts after 1 min at Ash Lumber then moves onto Farm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjstoHP51sg
  • OGLezard
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    your only strategy is jabs jabs jabs jabs jabs jabs ROFLMFAO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... never gonna win like that unless the person you are fighting just sucks at the game, which case he will end up coming to these forums and begging for a nerf.

    On the other note, you are fighting a DK...you need heal debuffs other wise GG with his GDB.........
  • Most_Awesome
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    your only strategy is jabs jabs jabs jabs jabs jabs ROFLMFAO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... never gonna win like that unless the person you are fighting just sucks at the game, which case he will end up coming to these forums and begging for a nerf.

    On the other note, you are fighting a DK...you need heal debuffs other wise GG with his GDB.........

    As a Templar then against a DK what should I have done, he will just reflect Dark Flare back at me, enlighten me please

  • Asherons_Call
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    Can you put a few more acronyms in the title pls. I need more acronyms
  • Vil
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    My templar is only lvl 10 and I'm no expert at PVP, but it seems to me you obviously lack dps. Jabs alone doesn't seem to do much dps here, it almost seemed to me you did better dps with your resto staffs basic attacks. TLDR: 1-2 more dps spells (how about dark flare? which also gives a heal debuff).

    Here's hoping we'll get an experienced templar in here to give some sound advice. Good luck
  • Molag_Crow
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    your only strategy is jabs jabs jabs jabs jabs jabs ROFLMFAO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... never gonna win like that unless the person you are fighting just sucks at the game, which case he will end up coming to these forums and begging for a nerf.

    On the other note, you are fighting a DK...you need heal debuffs other wise GG with his GDB.........

    Offer something constructive, unless you're the salty DK in the video who seems to absorb like crazy, even tanking resource guards like a reflective sponge.

    Man, there's no much us Templars can do vs DK tanks like that. I personally shield reflect then dark flare so it reflects off him, then off me and back onto him -- only way to do damage against them when they're on the move like that.
    Edited by Molag_Crow on August 24, 2015 4:02PM
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  • Pallmor
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    This is probably not the best place to ask for advice. You'll probably get a lot of posts telling you "You did it wrong," with no explanation of exactly how you did it wrong or how to do it right.

    You might have better luck asking over at Deltia's Gaming. The only problem is that over there they assume that everyone is a VR14 who has access to all the best gear.
  • Most_Awesome
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    Vil wrote: »
    My templar is only lvl 10 and I'm no expert at PVP, but it seems to me you obviously lack dps. Jabs alone doesn't seem to do much dps here, it almost seemed to me you did better dps with your resto staffs basic attacks. TLDR: 1-2 more dps spells (how about dark flare? which also gives a heal debuff).

    Here's hoping we'll get an experienced templar in here to give some sound advice. Good luck

    I think you will find my damage is fine on other players, he could be in full Nirnhoned gear though that would explain why such low numbers
  • Yakidafi
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    I like the dragon leap at around 21:20 thought they fixed that. Is this new footage?

    not sure if you troll or not considering your names.
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  • Most_Awesome
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    This was from yesterday
  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    There are a few options.

    AOEs cant be reflected, throw a shard which has a bit of cc on it.

    Count. Flappy wings only last four seconds.

    Reflect it back. Projectiles can only be reflected twice. Grab a sword and board.

    Channels can't be reflected. So jesus beam and basic attacks from resto / lightning.

    Other fun things. Caltrops, but they are up a bit in ranks.

    DKs arent impossible to kill. Try different things to see what works better and practice a lot. CC is good against everyone, drains stamina when they break free and stops them for a second.
  • OGLezard
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    You have all kinds of tools my good sir/ma'm. I will tell you right now though that spamming jabs is not gonna work...... I do not play a templar, nor do I ever want too. I can, however, tell you that you need a form of heal debuff to place on Dks if you are going to spam that move. You can get this via your weapon enchantments. Dark Flare will work on him, and I hate to say this, but you have to time it.

    Most Dks will just spam flappy flap because...well.....it makes sense to not treat this skill with a increased resource cost the more you spam it....... right @Z0S_EricWobel .......... Just practice timing your dark flares OR light attack with your resto staff four times to remove his wings. You could even do three light attacks and account for the travel time of dark flare and time the fourth light attack to remove flappy flap and have the dark flare land. This would give you the debuff you seek while allowing your jabs to do some more damage.

    Like I said, I do not play templar nor do I have any intent to do so. What I do know though is that jab spamming is the silliest "tactic" I have ever seen in pvp. That is for non vet and vet. It just cracks me up. I laugh even harder when I see people die from it.

    For the record, I am not the DK from the video. My DK is retired (NA not EU dont play on EU). However, theory craft some builds and figure it out. I suggest soul assault for an ulti.
  • Master_Fluff
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    Ah, you're fighting Ocys. Yeah, he's kinda hard to take down. Goes for all level 40-49 in Blackwater, actually.
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  • Dral_Shady
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    Ocy is fully Nirnhorned. Fight him after patch unless he ragequit p
  • Most_Awesome
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    Remember Boys and Girls this is NON VET BWB
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51q02ub7bec
  • ced30
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    perfect exemple of how some nirnhorned tryhards are ruining smallscale in non-vet campaign.
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  • Angarato
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    same with luci from the EPI. altho you can take him down with 3 people if you get some healing debuffs/cc train going.
  • Most_Awesome
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    I've not seen anyone else take the *** like the dude in my vid though, its a shame because by his movement and knowledge of his surroundings you can tell he's a good player, there's just no need for this crap. I can handle him i.e know when to withdraw but look how many noobs he kills, and how many of them never set foot in Cyrodiil again because they and 5 mates couldn't even get him to 90% hp
  • Teiji
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    I've not seen anyone else take the *** like the dude in my vid though, its a shame because by his movement and knowledge of his surroundings you can tell he's a good player, there's just no need for this crap. I can handle him i.e know when to withdraw but look how many noobs he kills, and how many of them never set foot in Cyrodiil again because they and 5 mates couldn't even get him to 90% hp

    PvP in this game has always been about abusing awkward game design. It's sad, Auriel's Bow was a utopia of PvP, no one used meteor, lag was on a tight leash and deer could be seen grazing upon the plains of Cyrodiil as far as the eye could see and torchbugs illuminated the lakes where the Spriggan danced in the moonlight to the singing of Nerieds.

    I'm sorry for your experience Most_Awesome, I recommend using dual wield where you use one Sharpened mace or two-handed where you use a Sharpened Maul; these are your best options to bring down Nirnhoned; simply out meta-game them by ignoring all of their armor.

    If you want to kill Nirnhoned users these are your only options in addition to rigorously using crowd control, immobilize effects and of course healing debuffs.
    Edited by Teiji on August 25, 2015 3:31AM
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  • leepalmer95
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    Well to be fair non vet pvp, everyone has nearly twice the hp as most vets do, they also have about a half to a third of the dmg vets do.

    So everyone has lots of hp and hits like a wet noodle...
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  • Asmael
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    Don't want to bother with meatbags?

    Disease (Befouled) weapons. Nuff said.
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  • andy_s
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    People just have so much resources and do so little damage due to battle level in non vet PVP, but it's actually good for new players. That DK is obviously not a noob, he knows how to survive vs X enemies, but it's hard to kill anything with 30k hp having 1200 spell power.
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  • Horker
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    Remember Boys and Girls this is NON VET BWB
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51q02ub7bec

    lel GG Ocy, btw we are going to ruin it even again without CP's

    3 man master-race Argonian squad DK with 50K health and devouring swarm every 10-15 secs each build, oh and lots of survival.
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  • leepalmer95
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    Remember Boys and Girls this is NON VET BWB
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51q02ub7bec

    lel GG Ocy, btw we are going to ruin it even again without CP's

    3 man master-race Argonian squad DK with 50K health and devouring swarm every 10-15 secs each build, oh and lots of survival.

    Ruin what, you'll hit nothing and be ignored.
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


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  • Horker
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    Remember Boys and Girls this is NON VET BWB
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51q02ub7bec

    lel GG Ocy, btw we are going to ruin it even again without CP's

    3 man master-race Argonian squad DK with 50K health and devouring swarm every 10-15 secs each build, oh and lots of survival.

    Ruin what, you'll hit nothing and be ignored.

    how do u wanna kill us then, by the time we tank zerklings for 30 minutes they will be zerged down already by other zerk, and our names are atracting ppl already so we will get ragewreckingspambushdets 24/7 where we walk.
    Edited by Horker on March 21, 2016 1:17PM
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  • Horker
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    Remember Boys and Girls this is NON VET BWB
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51q02ub7bec

    lel GG Ocy, btw we are going to ruin it even again without CP's

    3 man master-race Argonian squad DK with 50K health and devouring swarm every 10-15 secs each build, oh and lots of survival.

    Ruin what, you'll hit nothing and be ignored.

    how do u wanna kill us then, by the time we tank zerklings for 30 minutes they will be zerged down already by other zerk, and our names are atracting ppl already so we will get ragewreckingspambushdets 24/7 where we walk.

    this game and pvp is so f#cked over already by wrobel and friends, just exploit the #$% out of pvp with troll builds while u can and hope they will fix it...
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  • ThatGuyCameron
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    Testing, practice and taking feedback is the best way to improve. My general approach is:

    1. Decide on a role to fulfill, DPS, tank, or healer.

    2. Choose armor sets, attribute distribution, champion points, Mundus, glyphs etc that compliment that role. Find out what areas you're lacking in (e.g low regen, low damage, low resistances) and stack more into those until you get the balance you like. Also, food and potions.

    3. Test it out. Get into a bunch of fights, preferably with other lowbies who you can spar with without being zerged into paste. Find out what abilities work, which ones don't. Try new combinations.

    Somewhere between or after 2 and 3, make potions and food/drink. I personally run immovable health/stam pots on my Stamplar and health/stam recovery drinks, helps with sustain and overall survivability which allows me to stack damage easier.

    Hope this helped somewhat.
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  • ThatGuyCameron
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    Also, as a Magplar... Dark Flare and Defensive Stance, as someone above pointed out. Works wonders on DK flappers.

    Dark Flare weaved with javelin, heavy attacks or just before going into Toppling > Sweeps is a great bonus to DPS and applies the heal debuff. Open with it whenever you can. Entropy as well, for added spell damage.

    Only watched the first 30 seconds of you sweeping that DK so forgive me if any of this is redundant advice.
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  • Xendyn
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    Patch Day is apparently turning into Necro Day.

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  • Sugaroverdose
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    16k of magicka, you are joking, right?
    Edited by Sugaroverdose on March 21, 2016 1:30PM
  • Horker
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    Asmael wrote: »
    Don't want to bother with meatbags?

    Disease (Befouled) weapons. Nuff said.

    just send 1 diseased steel nado spammer into zerg and win, gg wp cyka blyat.
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