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If champion points where changed a lot, don't we deserve a free redistribution?

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Any update that dramatically changes builds needs to offer a free redistrubition.

Edited by Iink on March 14, 2016 4:07AM
  • johu31
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    I'm afraid this ship has sailed.
  • Troneon
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    johu31 wrote: »
    I'm afraid this ship has sailed.

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  • Ackwalan
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    The last time there was a free respect, the amount of QQ on the forums convinced ZOS to never do it again.
  • Iink
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    The last time there was a free respect, the amount of QQ on the forums convinced ZOS to never do it again.

    why would people complain about free respecs? it saves money...
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    Cause they had to reallocate all their points. Like it's a difficult task that takes days...
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    Iink wrote: »
    Ackwalan wrote: »
    The last time there was a free respect, the amount of QQ on the forums convinced ZOS to never do it again.

    why would people complain about free respecs? it saves money...

    They complained that they didn't remember how they had their cps and skillpoints distributed. Therefore, no free respec anymore.
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  • TheShadowScout
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    Come on... the respec function for c-poiunts is soooo darn easy to manage... and cheap enough too, at veteran ranks... its really pathetic to cry about those 3000 gold and minimal effort to switch some c-points around...
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    First of it's get not deserve.

    Second it is cause of the cry babies who cry the last time we got a free respect. Yea they ever cried about that cause they didn't wanna spend the whole 5 minutes spending their points on what they wanted. So after a entire month of crying ZOS decide they couldn't take another month of stupid players crying over something as stupid as a free respect so they didn't do it this time.
  • Prabooo
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    dude... is only 3k gold... chill
  • acw37162
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    Truth is they take flack if they do and take flack if they don't.

    Having said that they should have mailed you a free crown store respec and reset champion points if you purchased the DLC or have a current sub.
  • Syrani
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    All they had to do was lower the cost of the respec down to like 1 gold for a while. If you wanted to reassign points, it would only cost you one gold. If you didn't want to reassign, you wouldn't have to. That would have made both sides happy, and in my opinion, that's what they should have done since the changes were major.
    Edited by Syrani on March 19, 2016 3:33PM
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    Prabooo wrote: »
    dude... is only 3k gold... chill

    Actually, it is considerably more for a full set of vet characters with a ton of skill points and cp. many of us run multiple toons. Still, not gonna ruin my day.
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  • Greiver
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    Syrani wrote: »
    All they had to do was lower the cost of the respec down to like 1 gold for a while. If you wanted to reassign points, it would only cost you one gold. If you didn't want to reassign, you wouldn't have to. That would have made both sides happy, and in my opinion, that's what they should have done since the changes were major.

    You have any idea how many bugs would come with that. They haven't been able to change something in game without screwing up 10 times more things. It's only 3k. That's nothing. The amount of people wanting things easy and free in this game is mind blowing.
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  • Daraugh
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    Yes, but people complained. About a free thing. Complained about free things freely given...
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  • Jsmalls
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    It's 3000 gold... Think this is a l2p issue.
  • clayandaudrey_ESO
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    Who mentioned skill points here? L2read.
  • rotaugen454
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    Who mentioned skill points here? L2read.

    I put that in because once you alter your build, it can change everything.
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  • c.p.garrett1993_ESO
    People complained then, people are complaining now. Simple fix: make it optional. Won't happen, though. They don't care and I'm sure sales are up for respec scrolls.

    It's a business, and the money comes first as far as ZOS is concerned.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Nothing was changed so drastically you need to redo every single character's CP and skill point allocation.
  • Acrolas
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    "... With every time a major update, I have to reset skills on 8 characters and I hate it when ALL of the skills are removed and then I have to go into each character one by one and reset the skills with NO OPTION to un-select a skill point. If I make a mistake and then have to find a shrine and pay to undo that mistake!"

    That's the argument I'm going to reference until the end of time.

    Why? Because it actually touches on the bigger issue. We would not need respecs if we could make small changes. The all-or-nothing system is, IMO, the problem. We need more small reset options - Class Tree 1, CT 2, CT 3, Weapon, Guild & World, Crafting.

    Because why write the whole *** *** essay over again when you just need to edit a paragraph?
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  • rotaugen454
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    They are looking at line item skill resets. That would be MUCH better than having to reallocate 200+ points.
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  • captainwolfos
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    They could send out in-game mail with a respec consumable for each character?
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    They could send out in-game mail with a respec consumable for each character?

    Why would they do that? The whole point of the respec system is that it removes gold from the game. If you give out free respecs that defeats the purpose. Like I said above nothing was changed so drastically you need to reset every single aspect of every single character you have. If you want to do that fine but it costs gold or crowns.
  • captainwolfos
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    They could send out in-game mail with a respec consumable for each character?

    Why would they do that? The whole point of the respec system is that it removes gold from the game. If you give out free respecs that defeats the purpose. Like I said above nothing was changed so drastically you need to reset every single aspect of every single character you have. If you want to do that fine but it costs gold or crowns.

    It was simply a suggestion; we started off with free, mandatory respecs, but enough people complained that they stopped doing that.

    With a consumable, the people who want the free respec get one, and those who don't can simply either destroy the consumable, or toss into storage. Everyone's happy.
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    They could send out in-game mail with a respec consumable for each character?

    Why would they do that? The whole point of the respec system is that it removes gold from the game. If you give out free respecs that defeats the purpose. Like I said above nothing was changed so drastically you need to reset every single aspect of every single character you have. If you want to do that fine but it costs gold or crowns.

    It was simply a suggestion; we started off with free, mandatory respecs, but enough people complained that they stopped doing that.

    With a consumable, the people who want the free respec get one, and those who don't can simply either destroy the consumable, or toss into storage. Everyone's happy.

    Why not have them mail us all 2 mil gold why they are at it? If you dont want the gold just delete it right?
  • Bookwyrm
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    "... With every time a major update, I have to reset skills on 8 characters and I hate it when ALL of the skills are removed and then I have to go into each character one by one and reset the skills with NO OPTION to un-select a skill point. If I make a mistake and then have to find a shrine and pay to undo that mistake!"

    That's the argument I'm going to reference until the end of time.

    Why? Because it actually touches on the bigger issue. We would not need respecs if we could make small changes. The all-or-nothing system is, IMO, the problem. We need more small reset options - Class Tree 1, CT 2, CT 3, Weapon, Guild & World, Crafting.

    Because why write the whole *** *** essay over again when you just need to edit a paragraph?

    Actually, this is very accurate, and I think it's a great point.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. I'm glad that they added in a "morphs only" option. But there have been times during a respec (in fact, it just happened last week) where I thought I had one morph selected and actually had the other selected (my cursor was hovering over one, so it was highlighted, but the other was selected so it was highlighted too...but I thought I had the one my cursor was over selected) when I hit enter. But I wasn't about to pay to respec all my morphs when it was just one mistake. I can live with it until I decide I need to respec again. But if I could just respec that class tree...or if there was just an "undo last skill point allocation" (as long as it was used before you exited your menu screens)...that would be great.
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  • Ravinya
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    It's 3000 gold... Think this is a l2p issue.
    3k for only cp and one char. I have 8 chars that are in need of new skillpoints plus cp now. That's quite expensive and gold I don't have at the moment. I'm still waiting for free respec!

  • clayandaudrey_ESO
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    Who mentioned skill points here? L2read.

    I put that in because once you alter your build, it can change everything.
    L2understand builds

    Learn to understand posts. This post is about champion points. You included skill points to sensationalize the cost. I still say you have a l2read problem.
  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    On principle yes, but it's only 3k. It's the skill one which for me is almost 30k that makes a difference to almost the whole community and with huge skill mechanics should result in a free respec
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Ravinya wrote: »
    It's 3000 gold... Think this is a l2p issue.
    3k for only cp and one char. I have 8 chars that are in need of new skillpoints plus cp now. That's quite expensive and gold I don't have at the moment. I'm still waiting for free respec!

    Scratching my head trying to figure out why you would need to completely redo 8 characters for the few minor updates of the CP trees. CP maybe I could possibly understand but why would skills need to be redone on all characters?
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