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Why was Fengrush's video thread moved to Alliance War
FloppyFrank
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Why was this thread http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2790519/#Comment_2790519 moved to alliance war? The video itself talked about ESO as a whole and not only the pvp aspect. I have my own suspicions, but they are perhaps too vulgar to post them here without being flamed endlessly. So I would really like an actual response from someone at ZOS, but I highly doubt that's gonna happen
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Elsir✭✭✭✭Why are you making a thread about a thread instead of asking your question in the thread you're asking about? o.OAnna (AKA: Elsir)
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✭FloppyFrank wrote: »Why was this thread http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2790519/#Comment_2790519 moved to alliance war? The video itself talked about ESO as a whole and not only the pvp aspect. I have my own suspicions, but they are perhaps too vulgar to post them here without being flamed endlessly. So I would really like an actual response from someone at ZOS, but I highly doubt that's gonna happen
Why ?
Can you remember any vid that Fengrush made in PVE ?
or was it all in PVP"I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU10 -
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✭✭✭Seems like the proper place for the video. Look at the comments. It is a PvP thread.6 -
Kammakazi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭He is a PvP player who stream ESO:TU and is mostly in the PvP area, Cyrodiil which is also AvA which is also related to Alliance War.
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✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Who cares ?
agree, Only way i would care to care...is if he said he was leaving...that would make me all giddy : ))***Dixon Kay MagDK FORMER EMPEROR***Deca Dix MagDK FORMER EMPORER***Valonious MagPlar FORMER EMPEROR***
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Bars✭✭✭ThatGuyCameron wrote: »Probably because there's less traffic there.
was thinking much the same xD1 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Fengrush's video was a Review of the ENTIRE THIEVES GUILD DLC plus some comments on the "state of the game" as a whole.
If you have actually watched any of his streams you will find that he does play PvE, Maelstrom, etc but most of his viewer base prefers he just stream PvP.
He spends a good deal of time in that video talking about Trials and other PVE group content that ZOS has REFUSED to update in order to promote DLC.
His video was a holistic review of ESO and thus belongs on the general forums. ZOS moderation please move the thread back to where it belongs.19 -
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✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Fengrush's video was a Review of the ENTIRE THIEVES GUILD DLC plus some comments on the "state of the game" as a whole.
If you have actually watched any of his streams you will find that he does play PvE, Maelstrom, etc but most of his viewer base prefers he just stream PvP.
He spends a good deal of time in that video talking about Trials and other PVE group content that ZOS has REFUSED to update in order to promote DLC.
His video was a holistic review of ESO and thus belongs on the general forums. ZOS moderation please move the thread back to where it belongs.
Stop riding him and thinking that he's correct in every sense.10 -
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Is this where I sign up for the erp?Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Fengrush's video was a Review of the ENTIRE THIEVES GUILD DLC plus some comments on the "state of the game" as a whole.
If you have actually watched any of his streams you will find that he does play PvE, Maelstrom, etc but most of his viewer base prefers he just stream PvP.
He spends a good deal of time in that video talking about Trials and other PVE group content that ZOS has REFUSED to update in order to promote DLC.
His video was a holistic review of ESO and thus belongs on the general forums. ZOS moderation please move the thread back to where it belongs.
Stop riding him and thinking that he's correct in every sense.
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✭✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Fengrush's video was a Review of the ENTIRE THIEVES GUILD DLC plus some comments on the "state of the game" as a whole.
If you have actually watched any of his streams you will find that he does play PvE, Maelstrom, etc but most of his viewer base prefers he just stream PvP.
He spends a good deal of time in that video talking about Trials and other PVE group content that ZOS has REFUSED to update in order to promote DLC.
His video was a holistic review of ESO and thus belongs on the general forums. ZOS moderation please move the thread back to where it belongs.
Stop riding him and thinking that he's correct in every sense.
Let me be very arrogant and quote myself from yesterday.I am glad that Fengrush is still around because he speaks plainly and bluntly about the issues that we have been dealing with since launch. I don't always agree with his ideas on balance but I support the general sentiments.
I support the PvP community. Right now, that is more important than pointing out the opinions that I disagree with. Nice try at the personal attack to derail this thread.
The key point is that a video about the general direction of the game was removed from the general forums. More direct refutation and less ad hominem.10 -
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✭✭✭✭✭FloppyFrank wrote: »Why was this thread moved to alliance war?
It's probably more "more tolerable" there. Vaguely-titled thread in a sub-forum where the sun never rises? All right!signing off3 -
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✭✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Who cares ?
Couldnt agree more.
"Fengrush Fengrush you are my voice and soul!" "Oh why oh why would you move his blessed thread ZOS??"
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✭✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Fengrush's video was a Review of the ENTIRE THIEVES GUILD DLC plus some comments on the "state of the game" as a whole.
If you have actually watched any of his streams you will find that he does play PvE, Maelstrom, etc but most of his viewer base prefers he just stream PvP.
He spends a good deal of time in that video talking about Trials and other PVE group content that ZOS has REFUSED to update in order to promote DLC.
His video was a holistic review of ESO and thus belongs on the general forums. ZOS moderation please move the thread back to where it belongs.
Wasn't just about the DLC, it was about the toxicity of ZOS' business model directly in conflict with the design intent of the game.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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FloppyFrank✭✭✭everyone acting like I'm a Fengrush dickrider. I was just wondering why his thread was moved because it was an interesting topic that generated good, albeit hostile, discussion. I do suspect ZOS moved it though so that less people would see it because they "disagreed" with his pointsXbone GT: x mech duck x7
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✭✭✭✭✭Who the %&#@ is Fengrush
A PvP streamer, who had his stamina sorc build featured last fall sometime. Then turned around and badmouthed ZOS and, to this day, can't figure out why, after spitting in their face (figuratively speaking) they decided not to pursue further interactions with him, and claims that ZOS ignores everything except bootlicking. Then proceeds to throw a tantrum on camera.
Yeah, I can't imagine ZOS isn't jumping all over him.
EDIT: Oh, right, and is in the header of no one matters except the hardcore players and clearly more resources should be spent on PvP.Edited by starkerealm on March 17, 2016 2:02AM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭FloppyFrank wrote: »everyone acting like I'm a Fengrush dickrider. I was just wondering why his thread was moved because it was an interesting topic that generated good, albeit hostile, discussion. I do suspect ZOS moved it though so that less people would see it because they "disagreed" with his points
It could just as easily been because things were getting heated in there, and they were looking for a quiet way to prevent a full on flame war, without resorting to heavy handed tactics. Sinking it would have had a similar effect, but as someone else pointed out, Fengrush is a PvP streamer.0 -
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✭✭FloppyFrank wrote: »Why was this thread http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2790519/#Comment_2790519 moved to alliance war?
Because "running through Imperial city sewers ganking players engaged in pve content for 8 hours" doesn't exist as a forum category?2 -
arcantonias✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »FloppyFrank wrote: »Why was this thread http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2790519/#Comment_2790519 moved to alliance war?
Because "running through Imperial city sewers ganking players engaged in pve content for 8 hours" doesn't exist as a forum category?
its possible in game so why not have a category for it. its the content they designed.Edited by arcantonias on March 17, 2016 2:14AM2 -
Brightxdawn✭✭✭Because Zenimax does not want people reading user reviews that criticize the game in a way which might turn people away from purchasing ESO.6 -
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✭✭The reason why his thread was moved to alliance war was because it had gained too much traction from General Discussion which is where most of the traffic is located. Alliance war isn't as popular as General Discussion so in order to kinda sweep this under the rug it was moved there.
It's typical of ZoS as this game gets even more boring, I plan on getting The Division tomorrow since this game is well only going to have potential and nothing more.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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flguy147ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Hate to admit it but i agree with the 2 above posters. Its a way for them keeping the thread allowed trying to look like they allow players to post their opinions but moved it to a category in which hardly anybody visits but they can say "hey the thread was better suited under the Alliance War category". But hey we didnt delete it so we allow players to post reviews good or bad.Edited by flguy147ub17_ESO on March 17, 2016 3:06AM4
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✭✭MaxwellCrystal wrote: »The reason why his thread was moved to alliance war was because it had gained too much traction from General Discussion which is where most of the traffic is located. Alliance war isn't as popular as General Discussion so in order to kinda sweep this under the rug it was moved there.
It's typical of ZoS as this game gets even more boring, I plan on getting The Division tomorrow since this game is well only going to have potential and nothing more.
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Anzriel✭✭✭✭Yeah, as sad as it is, it was a means to attempt to sweep opinions they don't want to seen into places with less traffic. I didn't even agree with everything that was said there, but I'm disappointed that it's being moved for that reason. I'm just as sad at the people in this thread showing that same attitude. The funny part is most of them would deem his views "toxic", while their own attitude is just as bad. However I suppose it's human nature to find our own sins more tolerable than the sins of others.6 -
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✭The conversation in thread was mostly PVP related?
The video covered mostly PvP topics?
The mods thought it the best place for the conversation?
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