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Elder Scrolls 6 - an ESO DLC???
istateres
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I know, couldn't be the truth; but . . . .
A) Elder Scrolls 6 must have at least cooporative play. Just PvE is not going to be acceptable! As a separate game it would then compete with ESO.
Elder Scrolls 5 had several DLCs, each of which was primarily new content.
If you accept the gameplay of ESO (Maybe not perfect, but good), then Elder Scrolls 6 is just a massive DLC set in a different time frame than ESO.
If you imagine the ESO Elder Scrolls 6 DLC to include player housing (again, 100% speculation), then isn't ESO just multiplayer Elder Scrolls?
I'm just throwing this out. Can we have a discussion as to the challenges and opportunities this would present??
A) Elder Scrolls 6 must have at least cooporative play. Just PvE is not going to be acceptable! As a separate game it would then compete with ESO.
Elder Scrolls 5 had several DLCs, each of which was primarily new content.If you accept the gameplay of ESO (Maybe not perfect, but good), then Elder Scrolls 6 is just a massive DLC set in a different time frame than ESO.
If you imagine the ESO Elder Scrolls 6 DLC to include player housing (again, 100% speculation), then isn't ESO just multiplayer Elder Scrolls?
I'm just throwing this out. Can we have a discussion as to the challenges and opportunities this would present??
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Messy1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Please make it so that Elder Scrolls 6 has the PvP portion of the Justice system. Thanks in advance!2 -
WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭ESO doesn't have the same feel or charm as a real TES game.
So no, ESO is not TESVI with multiplayer. ESO was also in development in 2007, same year as TESV11 -
skillastat✭✭✭✭Start your game, click on Credits.
See what are those first words ?
"BASED on The Elder Scrolls"
That's right, ESO is based on the franchise. Please let the Single Player TES Games out of this.
Please.(PC NA)
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I know, couldn't be the truth; but . . . .
A) Elder Scrolls 6 must have at least cooporative play. Just PvE is not going to be acceptable! As a separate game it would then compete with ESO. Elder Scrolls 5 had several DLCs, each of which was primarily new content.
If you accept the gameplay of ESO (Maybe not perfect, but good), then Elder Scrolls 6 is just a massive DLC set in a different time frame than ESO.
If you imagine the ESO Elder Scrolls 6 DLC to include player housing (again, 100% speculation), then isn't ESO just multiplayer Elder Scrolls?
I'm just throwing this out. Can we have a discussion as to the challenges and opportunities this would present??
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istateres✭✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO doesn't have the same feel or charm as a real TES game.
So no, ESO is not TESVI with multiplayer. ESO was also in development in 2007, same year as TESV
What does ESO need to capture the PVE charm of a TES game?1 -
istateres✭✭✭✭skillastat wrote: »Start your game, click on Credits.
See what are those first words ?
"BASED on The Elder Scrolls"
That's right, ESO is based on the franchise. Please let the Single Player TES Games out of this.
Please.
So you think Elder Scrolls 6 should be single player only?0 -
Faasnu✭✭✭
So you think Elder Scrolls 6 should be single player only?
I would say yes, definitely. I can't imagine being bothered by other players in a true TES game. I'm having a silly fun in ESO, but it's not even comparable to how much I enjoy single player TES games. No farming, no grinding, no leaderboards, etc. Just peace and quiet, me and NPCs.13 -
The_Lex✭✭✭✭✭
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So you think Elder Scrolls 6 should be single player only?
I would say yes, definitely. I can't imagine being bothered by other players in a true TES game. I'm having a silly fun in ESO, but it's not even comparable to how much I enjoy single player TES games. No farming, no grinding, no leaderboards, etc. Just peace and quiet, me and NPCs.
I agree; however, I am almost certain there will be a co-op mode this time around.1 -
Kas✭✭✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO doesn't have the same feel or charm as a real TES game.
So no, ESO is not TESVI with multiplayer. ESO was also in development in 2007, same year as TESV
What does ESO need to capture the PVE charm of a TES game?
a lack of competition
personally, i also enjoy single player games (usually only play the interesting story and AVOID min/maxing (e.g. crafting crazy gear in skyrim). In MMOs (or other PvP games) I live and bereath min/maxing. If I know there is competition with other palyers, I cannot lean back, relax and listen to stories. I just want to be efficient@bbu - AD/EU
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Faasnu✭✭✭The_Patriarch wrote: »
I agree; however, I am almost certain there will be a co-op mode this time around.
Co-op mode is good as long as I'm not forced to participate in it. I remember hearing about ESO for the first time (before it was released) and I understood it like I could still play it as a single player game. I imagined there would be an option to turn other players invisible or something. I had no experience with MMOs and I was so disappointed when it turned out to be impossible.
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Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.0 -
Faasnu✭✭✭Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
That means it's going to be the death of good old TES games, so I hope it won't happen.1 -
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✭✭The_Patriarch wrote: »
I agree; however, I am almost certain there will be a co-op mode this time around.
Co-op mode is good as long as I'm not forced to participate in it. I remember hearing about ESO for the first time (before it was released) and I understood it like I could still play it as a single player game. I imagined there would be an option to turn other players invisible or something. I had no experience with MMOs and I was so disappointed when it turned out to be impossible.
Agreed. For a Bethesda single player TES game, I think they'll go with a co-op mode that will be strictly optional. Who knows, they might use an ESO server for co-op, since that architecture is already in place.1 -
The_Lex✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
God I hope not, for the sake of the franchise. I LOVE eso for what it is, an MMO. I also love single player TES games for what they are. There's something about the raw beauty and immersion of a single player TES game.
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WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO doesn't have the same feel or charm as a real TES game.
So no, ESO is not TESVI with multiplayer. ESO was also in development in 2007, same year as TESV
What does ESO need to capture the PVE charm of a TES game?
-More sandbox
-more choice (you have to join fighters guild and mages guild and now thieves guild to gain their skillpoints from quests and level them up for their abilities)
-A more alive world (NPC don't have schedules like TES games have has since TESIV)
-Quests with decisions that actually impact the game world (hard to do in an MMO - but ESO already has phasing)
-How many times I had quests leveling up where they sent me to talk to the dude next to the quest giver then fetch something next to those two dudes (epic quest bro)
-Modding (won't ever happen as they need to milk us for pet, horse and costume sales plus not really possible in an MMO, I just hate their horrid costume designs)
Just a few I could think of.Edited by WalkingLegacy on March 16, 2016 3:28PM1 -
CossackHD✭✭Make TESVI ESO DLC?
Have you ever heard about MODS? My Skyrim plays nothing like vanilla Skyrim thanks to the amazing mods, and I enjoy possibilities to customize games according to my own preferences. Can't do that in MMOs/competitive MP, period.
I'd like to see "coop netcode" support in TESVI with player hostable dedicated servers, but I won't enjoy any MMO crap in a franchise that is obviously SP oriented. ESO is a spin-off of The Elder Scrolls, it's not part of the main series, please RFTM.Edited by CossackHD on March 16, 2016 3:17PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO doesn't have the same feel or charm as a real TES game.
So no, ESO is not TESVI with multiplayer. ESO was also in development in 2007, same year as TESV
What does ESO need to capture the PVE charm of a TES game?
A lot of things such as:- an interactive world
- attention to every tiny detail of the world see Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 4...every single little thing
- from every knob, to every cup sitting on the table, all these little things become a really big great things.
- Your decisions and choices actually having consequences and real percussion on the world
- Little things like guyards not caring your a stage 4 Vampire monstrosity walking around town for example.
- every player pretty much ending up wearing the same exact thing
- very little;e character customization, all the tradition skill trees missing
- ESO doesn't even have any Necromancer spells, you can't be a necromancer.
- the ability to summon undead, raise corpses, and play a Neceomancer is missing
- Being able to play a Necromancer has been a core part of the TEs for nearly 2 decades
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✭✭✭✭skillastat wrote: »Start your game, click on Credits.
See what are those first words ?
"BASED on The Elder Scrolls"
That's right, ESO is based on the franchise. Please let the Single Player TES Games out of this.
Please.
So you think Elder Scrolls 6 should be single player only?
Yup
No way its multi-player of any kind. Howard thought about making Fallout 4 co-op but it would force them to compromise on too much what the vision of the game was and they wouldn't be able to release the full dev kit for modders and Howard said he wouldn't turn his back on his community like that...TES6 will be single player with a much improved mod kit and tools so the sky is the limit for the game.Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak6 -
Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
That means it's going to be the death of good old TES games, so I hope it won't happen.The_Patriarch wrote: »Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
God I hope not, for the sake of the franchise. I LOVE eso for what it is, an MMO. I also love single player TES games for what they are. There's something about the raw beauty and immersion of a single player TES game.
see the problem with creating a single player game is this. It would sell I would buy it too. But it would take away from ESO and funding on that would go down since the new TES game would be the one to play. That being said they would possibly lose income in total from the gimp of ESO being that they want ESO to be a long running MMO I don't see them wanting to sabotage themselves by creating a new single player game. Unless ESO starts to die which I hope it doesn't. I wouldn't mind a single player TES game again however I believe(depending on how they do it) an expansion could be great as well.0 -
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✭✭Lightninvash wrote: »Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
That means it's going to be the death of good old TES games, so I hope it won't happen.The_Patriarch wrote: »Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
God I hope not, for the sake of the franchise. I LOVE eso for what it is, an MMO. I also love single player TES games for what they are. There's something about the raw beauty and immersion of a single player TES game.
see the problem with creating a single player game is this. It would sell I would buy it too. But it would take away from ESO and funding on that would go down since the new TES game would be the one to play. That being said they would possibly lose income in total from the gimp of ESO being that they want ESO to be a long running MMO I don't see them wanting to sabotage themselves by creating a new single player game. Unless ESO starts to die which I hope it doesn't. I wouldn't mind a single player TES game again however I believe(depending on how they do it) an expansion could be great as well.
I see what you're saying. But, these mega-corporations factor all of the financial impacts into their decision making. When ESO was being developed, which was partly alongside TESV, the suits had already discussed these issues. Outside of the ESO community, people are begging for a new single player game.
I'm quite sure that Bethesda has NOT yet tired of making copious amounts of money.
Edited by The_Lex on March 16, 2016 3:34PM0 -
Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭The_Patriarch wrote: »Lightninvash wrote: »Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
That means it's going to be the death of good old TES games, so I hope it won't happen.The_Patriarch wrote: »Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
God I hope not, for the sake of the franchise. I LOVE eso for what it is, an MMO. I also love single player TES games for what they are. There's something about the raw beauty and immersion of a single player TES game.
see the problem with creating a single player game is this. It would sell I would buy it too. But it would take away from ESO and funding on that would go down since the new TES game would be the one to play. That being said they would possibly lose income in total from the gimp of ESO being that they want ESO to be a long running MMO I don't see them wanting to sabotage themselves by creating a new single player game. Unless ESO starts to die which I hope it doesn't. I wouldn't mind a single player TES game again however I believe(depending on how they do it) an expansion could be great as well.
I see what you're saying. But, these mega-corporations factor all of the financial impacts into their decision making. When ESO was being developed, which was partly alongside TESV, the suits had already discussed these issues. Outside of the ESO community, people are begging for a new single player game.
I'm quite sure that Bethesda has NOT yet tired of making copious amounts of money.
oh no I can see what you are saying as well thing is they have to factor in what potentially will make more. a new single player game and try running eso as well and see if it works of just run eso. If the new game was single player it would have great potential. only time will tell on that what they decide.1 -
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✭✭✭✭Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
Won't happen, everyone has this convulted Idea that Zenimax Owns Bethesda and ZOS somehow has owenrship or pecking order rights over Bethesda and thats imply not true at all...infact nothing could be farther from the truth.
Fact Is:
1. Zenimax Media was created by Bethesda founders Christopher Weaver and Robert Altman.
2. Weaver made Altman CEO of Zenimax Media
This means Zenimax Media is actually nothing more then Bethesda Corporate and was created to manage the IP, acquiring new stuff, and the corporate day to day stuff so Bethesda could focus on developing games...in other words Zenimax Media handles the business, taxes, etc side of the company so Bethesda can make products.
in reality ZOS is a studio hired by Bethesda Corporate(Zenimax Media) to make an MMO for them with one of their IP.
When ESO announced their B2P go look at the videos, go see who was watching over Firor's shoulder during that interview...Pete Hines VP of Bethesda...Bethesda has always been calling the shots from day one, ZOS and that studio are simply employees of Bethesda.
In business its quite common for larger companies to create corporate entities under a different name to pool certain resources under in order to make managing all the companies resources easier.
As Pete Hines said in an interview:
https://www.vg247.com/2013/06/13/todd-howards-next-game-looking-awesome-dont-expect-news-on-it-anytime-soon/
“Zenimax Online Studio is an MMO shop,” said Hines. “They’re making an Elder Scrolls MMO and that is 100% unrelated to [the single-player series]. Todd Howard, at this point, has earned the right to do what the hell he wants; nobody gets to tell him different and nobody gets to dictate to him what he gets to do.
“You’re laughing because you know it’s true. He gets to do whatever he wants. Him and his team are moving forward with the stuff that they want to work on and where they want to go next in making games. I get to see it and it’s already really awesome, but it’s probably helpful to note that anyone who thinks that what he’s working on next is going to be talked about soon doesn’t understand game development.
“Give these guys time and space: expect it never and be surprised if it’s any time before then.”
Simply put, Since the co-founder of Bethesda is the CEO of Zenimax Media, Zenimax Media is simply another name for Bethesda Corporate, if and when TES6 comes out is whenever Bethesda feels like releasing it, i do know Bethesda is using ESO as a time filler for the new IP Bethesda has been working on since 2014 so take that for what you will.Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak1 -
Glorious_One✭✭✭TES 6 better not be ruined by some multiplayer garbage. It isnt a multiplayer franchise, it isnt gta it isnt dark souls, so no I do not want any type of multiplayer in the next TES game. It is glorious and awesome in the format it currently has.
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Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
Won't happen, everyone has this convulted Idea that Zenimax Owns Bethesda and ZOS somehow has owenrship or pecking order rights over Bethesda and thats imply not true at all...infact nothing could be farther from the truth.
Fact Is:
1. Zenimax Media was created by Bethesda founders Christopher Weaver and Robert Altman.
2. Weaver made Altman CEO of Zenimax Media
This means Zenimax Media is actually nothing more then Bethesda Corporate and was created to manage the IP, acquiring new stuff, and the corporate day to day stuff so Bethesda could focus on developing games...in other words Zenimax Media handles the business, taxes, etc side of the company so Bethesda can make products.
in reality ZOS is a studio hired by Bethesda Corporate(Zenimax Media) to make an MMO for them with one of their IP.
When ESO announced their B2P go look at the videos, go see who was watching over Firor's shoulder during that interview...Pete Hines VP of Bethesda...Bethesda has always been calling the shots from day one, ZOS and that studio are simply employees of Bethesda.
In business its quite common for larger companies to create corporate entities under a different name to pool certain resources under in order to make managing all the companies resources easier.
As Pete Hines said in an interview:
https://www.vg247.com/2013/06/13/todd-howards-next-game-looking-awesome-dont-expect-news-on-it-anytime-soon/
“Zenimax Online Studio is an MMO shop,” said Hines. “They’re making an Elder Scrolls MMO and that is 100% unrelated to [the single-player series]. Todd Howard, at this point, has earned the right to do what the hell he wants; nobody gets to tell him different and nobody gets to dictate to him what he gets to do.
“You’re laughing because you know it’s true. He gets to do whatever he wants. Him and his team are moving forward with the stuff that they want to work on and where they want to go next in making games. I get to see it and it’s already really awesome, but it’s probably helpful to note that anyone who thinks that what he’s working on next is going to be talked about soon doesn’t understand game development.
“Give these guys time and space: expect it never and be surprised if it’s any time before then.”
Simply put, Since the co-founder of Bethesda is the CEO of Zenimax Media, Zenimax Media is simply another name for Bethesda Corporate, if and when TES6 comes out is whenever Bethesda feels like releasing it, i do know Bethesda is using ESO as a time filler for the new IP Bethesda has been working on since 2014 so take that for what you will.
ZeniMax Media Inc. is an American media company that develops and publishes video games through its subsidiaries. ZeniMax is known as the owner of id Software (developer of Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein), Bethesda Game Studios (developer of The Elder Scrolls, Fallout 3 and Fallout 4), Arkane Studios (developer of Arx Fatalis, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic and Dishonored), MachineGames (developer of Wolfenstein: The New Order and Wolfenstein: The Old Blood), Tango Gameworks (developer of The Evil Within) and ZeniMax Online Studios. ZeniMax Media Inc. is headquartered in Rockville, Maryland, with offices in North America, Europe, Asia and Australia.
Zenimax owns Bethesda not the other way around bud
zenimax was founded in 1999 and Bethesda was created as a subsidiary of zenimax in 2002 so you are wrong in that aspect
EDIT: so Bethesda couldn't possibly create zenimax seeing as zenimax came out 3 years before Bethesda.
also ZOS is another subsidiary of zenimax media to manage ESO.Edited by Lightninvash on March 16, 2016 4:00PM0 -
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✭✭✭TES 6 will not have multiplayer, unless it is via mods like the Skyrim multiplayer mod.
TES 6 will likely be based in Elsweyr, so that EOS and TES 6 do not share maps, until ESO inevitably later adds maps for the most popular areas of TES 6 (expect such maps 1-2 years after TES 6 itself is a finished project).
These are the two main factors that will be employed to ensure the two games do not shoot each other in the foot."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
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Marcosyn11✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »ESO doesn't have the same feel or charm as a real TES game.
So no, ESO is not TESVI with multiplayer. ESO was also in development in 2007, same year as TESV
What does ESO need to capture the PVE charm of a TES game?
-More sandbox
-more choice (you have to join fighters guild and mages guild and now thieves guild to gain their skillpoints from quests and level them up for their abilities)
-A more alive world (NPC don't have schedules like TES games have has since TESIV)
-Quests with decisions that actually impact the game world (hard to do in an MMO - but ESO already has phasing)
-How many times I had quests leveling up where they sent me to talk to the dude next to the quest giver then fetch something next to those two dudes (epic quest bro)
-Modding (won't ever happen as they need to milk us for pet, horse and costume sales plus not really possible in an MMO, I just hate their horrid costume designs)
Just a few I could think of.
Those are good points that gives charm to the single player games.
Another is more immersion like sitting in a chair that actually exists in the world, not an emote.EU Megaserver - Lusitano1 -
kalimar44✭✭✭✭Lightninvash wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
Won't happen, everyone has this convulted Idea that Zenimax Owns Bethesda and ZOS somehow has owenrship or pecking order rights over Bethesda and thats imply not true at all...infact nothing could be farther from the truth.
Fact Is:
1. Zenimax Media was created by Bethesda founders Christopher Weaver and Robert Altman.
2. Weaver made Altman CEO of Zenimax Media
This means Zenimax Media is actually nothing more then Bethesda Corporate and was created to manage the IP, acquiring new stuff, and the corporate day to day stuff so Bethesda could focus on developing games...in other words Zenimax Media handles the business, taxes, etc side of the company so Bethesda can make products.
in reality ZOS is a studio hired by Bethesda Corporate(Zenimax Media) to make an MMO for them with one of their IP.
When ESO announced their B2P go look at the videos, go see who was watching over Firor's shoulder during that interview...Pete Hines VP of Bethesda...Bethesda has always been calling the shots from day one, ZOS and that studio are simply employees of Bethesda.
In business its quite common for larger companies to create corporate entities under a different name to pool certain resources under in order to make managing all the companies resources easier.
As Pete Hines said in an interview:
https://www.vg247.com/2013/06/13/todd-howards-next-game-looking-awesome-dont-expect-news-on-it-anytime-soon/
“Zenimax Online Studio is an MMO shop,” said Hines. “They’re making an Elder Scrolls MMO and that is 100% unrelated to [the single-player series]. Todd Howard, at this point, has earned the right to do what the hell he wants; nobody gets to tell him different and nobody gets to dictate to him what he gets to do.
“You’re laughing because you know it’s true. He gets to do whatever he wants. Him and his team are moving forward with the stuff that they want to work on and where they want to go next in making games. I get to see it and it’s already really awesome, but it’s probably helpful to note that anyone who thinks that what he’s working on next is going to be talked about soon doesn’t understand game development.
“Give these guys time and space: expect it never and be surprised if it’s any time before then.”
Simply put, Since the co-founder of Bethesda is the CEO of Zenimax Media, Zenimax Media is simply another name for Bethesda Corporate, if and when TES6 comes out is whenever Bethesda feels like releasing it, i do know Bethesda is using ESO as a time filler for the new IP Bethesda has been working on since 2014 so take that for what you will.
ZeniMax Media Inc. is an American media company that develops and publishes video games through its subsidiaries. ZeniMax is known as the owner of id Software (developer of Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein), Bethesda Game Studios (developer of The Elder Scrolls, Fallout 3 and Fallout 4), Arkane Studios (developer of Arx Fatalis, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic and Dishonored), MachineGames (developer of Wolfenstein: The New Order and Wolfenstein: The Old Blood), Tango Gameworks (developer of The Evil Within) and ZeniMax Online Studios. ZeniMax Media Inc. is headquartered in Rockville, Maryland, with offices in North America, Europe, Asia and Australia.
Zenimax owns Bethesda not the other way around bud zenimax was founded in 1999 and Bethesda was created as a subsidiary of zenimax in 2002 so you are wrong in that aspect
EDIT: so Bethesda couldn't possibly create zenimax seeing as zenimax came out 3 years before Bethesda.
also ZOS is another subsidiary of zenimax media to manage ESO.
You are completely wrong. Look at this>>>>>>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethesda_Softworks0 -
Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭Lightninvash wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Lightninvash wrote: »I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.
Won't happen, everyone has this convulted Idea that Zenimax Owns Bethesda and ZOS somehow has owenrship or pecking order rights over Bethesda and thats imply not true at all...infact nothing could be farther from the truth.
Fact Is:
1. Zenimax Media was created by Bethesda founders Christopher Weaver and Robert Altman.
2. Weaver made Altman CEO of Zenimax Media
This means Zenimax Media is actually nothing more then Bethesda Corporate and was created to manage the IP, acquiring new stuff, and the corporate day to day stuff so Bethesda could focus on developing games...in other words Zenimax Media handles the business, taxes, etc side of the company so Bethesda can make products.
in reality ZOS is a studio hired by Bethesda Corporate(Zenimax Media) to make an MMO for them with one of their IP.
When ESO announced their B2P go look at the videos, go see who was watching over Firor's shoulder during that interview...Pete Hines VP of Bethesda...Bethesda has always been calling the shots from day one, ZOS and that studio are simply employees of Bethesda.
In business its quite common for larger companies to create corporate entities under a different name to pool certain resources under in order to make managing all the companies resources easier.
As Pete Hines said in an interview:
https://www.vg247.com/2013/06/13/todd-howards-next-game-looking-awesome-dont-expect-news-on-it-anytime-soon/
“Zenimax Online Studio is an MMO shop,” said Hines. “They’re making an Elder Scrolls MMO and that is 100% unrelated to [the single-player series]. Todd Howard, at this point, has earned the right to do what the hell he wants; nobody gets to tell him different and nobody gets to dictate to him what he gets to do.
“You’re laughing because you know it’s true. He gets to do whatever he wants. Him and his team are moving forward with the stuff that they want to work on and where they want to go next in making games. I get to see it and it’s already really awesome, but it’s probably helpful to note that anyone who thinks that what he’s working on next is going to be talked about soon doesn’t understand game development.
“Give these guys time and space: expect it never and be surprised if it’s any time before then.”
Simply put, Since the co-founder of Bethesda is the CEO of Zenimax Media, Zenimax Media is simply another name for Bethesda Corporate, if and when TES6 comes out is whenever Bethesda feels like releasing it, i do know Bethesda is using ESO as a time filler for the new IP Bethesda has been working on since 2014 so take that for what you will.
ZeniMax Media Inc. is an American media company that develops and publishes video games through its subsidiaries. ZeniMax is known as the owner of id Software (developer of Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein), Bethesda Game Studios (developer of The Elder Scrolls, Fallout 3 and Fallout 4), Arkane Studios (developer of Arx Fatalis, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic and Dishonored), MachineGames (developer of Wolfenstein: The New Order and Wolfenstein: The Old Blood), Tango Gameworks (developer of The Evil Within) and ZeniMax Online Studios. ZeniMax Media Inc. is headquartered in Rockville, Maryland, with offices in North America, Europe, Asia and Australia.
Zenimax owns Bethesda not the other way around bud zenimax was founded in 1999 and Bethesda was created as a subsidiary of zenimax in 2002 so you are wrong in that aspect
EDIT: so Bethesda couldn't possibly create zenimax seeing as zenimax came out 3 years before Bethesda.
also ZOS is another subsidiary of zenimax media to manage ESO.
You are completely wrong. Look at this>>>>>>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethesda_Softworks
bro 1st line Bethesda Softworks, LLC is an American video game publisher. A subsidiary of ZeniMax Media. it sais right there it is a subsidiary.
A subsidiary, subsidiary company or daughter company is a company that is owned or controlled by another company, which is called the parent company, parent, or holding company.
@kalimar44Edited by Lightninvash on March 16, 2016 4:24PM0 -
Lyrebon✭✭✭skillastat wrote: »Start your game, click on Credits.
See what are those first words ?
"BASED on The Elder Scrolls"
That's right, ESO is based on the franchise. Please let the Single Player TES Games out of this.
Please.
So you think Elder Scrolls 6 should be single player only?
Yes.4
