thieves trove- are they still in game?

lihentian · March 2016

since the patch i haven't seen a single trove.......and i have been to all strange places where not many would visit.. not a single one spotted.. i ask around guild and no one have seen one as well.. which make me wondering are they still in game?

Marktoneth3 · March 2016

have not seen one since

Katahdin · March 2016

I wondered the same last night. I spent 4 hours in different maps, some vet and some non vet, some with no one around and didnt see one box.

SirAndy · March 2016

I found one (1) during several hours of play last night.

Typical ZOS, they always panic and make HUGE changes to something that only needed a little tweaking.

Villious · March 2016

They severely over nerfed these with the last patch.

Phinix1 · March 2016

Same, not seeing them since the patch. Was finding several per hour just wandering around questing before.

I understand a few people were botting them but I think they turned the spawn rate down too far.

Mojmir · March 2016

Be careful what u ask for,zos just might deliver

babylon · March 2016

SirAndy wrote: »

I found one (1) during several hours of play last night.

Typical ZOS, they always panic and make HUGE changes to something that only needed a little tweaking.

The only numbers they code with in this game are 1 and 0.

Aleraon · March 2016

Yeah something that seemed actually fun to run around opening suddenly became irrelevant thanks to people complaining they were spawning too fast and people were camping them.

Now, instead of everyone being able to find them, some people will find them all and others will be lucky to see one.

Maotti · March 2016

And people still wonder why people flee this game? Huh? Huh?

Xendyn · March 2016

Well, I guess the immersionista can stop complaining about the glow and sound now.

Nestor · March 2016

I have not spent a large amount of time in the overworld since the patch, I will tonight. But, I have not seen a Trove since Monday Morning pre-patch. I did hear one, I think, but another player may have gotten to it before me.

Aleraon · March 2016

Yup. Just tickles me. I love the game and I've put some serious hours into it but I'm finding myself agreeing now with some of the criticism I see on the forums. When there are far more important things to fix in game and they're all over this and nerf it to near non existence you have to wonder where the development teams heads at.

Makes you wonder why they put the troves in in the first place. Now they've pretty much made them irrelevant and no longer fun they may as well take the redundant code out of the game for them.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO · March 2016

While I tend to agree with the premise that ZOS does tend to overbuff or overnerf, it doesn't feel to me like the number of Thieves' Troves has actually gone down.

What I'm finding is that they're more hidden.

For example, I'm questing in Shadowfen and finding these things pretty regularly. However, their placement seems to be less conspicuous new. Instead of laying about in the open, they seem to be more cleverly concealed (atop mushrooms growing from a tree, inside the roots of other trees, behind terrain features concealed from view, etc.).

I'm not saying the number hasn't been nerfed. It just feels subjectively like they're better hidden?

Does that make sense?

Phinix1 · March 2016

Aleraon wrote: »

Yeah something that seemed actually fun to run around opening suddenly became irrelevant thanks to people complaining...

Yep.

Maotti · March 2016

Aleraon wrote: »

Yup. Just tickles me. I love the game and I've put some serious hours into it but I'm finding myself agreeing now with some of the criticism I see on the forums. When there are far more important things to fix in game and they're all over this and nerf it to near non existence you have to wonder where the development teams heads at.

Makes you wonder why they put the troves in in the first place. Now they've pretty much made them irrelevant and no longer fun they may as well take the redundant code out of the game for them.

It's all the QQ after the TG patch that did this Raz, and they always listen to whiners, and that's a given fact. Especially when it comes to things like this.

Nestor · March 2016

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

I'm not saying the number hasn't been nerfed. It just feels subjectively like they're better hidden?

Does that make sense?

It could also be the ones that are not easy to see from a distance are being left behind. I could see Troves from farther away than I could Lore Books or Rune Nodes at night, even during the day. People probably never learned where those are because the other one spawned so quickly, there was no need to.

babylon · March 2016

This was my idea to fix the problem of people leaving lockpicks in the troves.

A way to fix the "leave only lockpicks" type behaviour - add in an overflow bag to game, then make it so items looted from chests/troves/materials nodes/mail etc automatically gets looted and thrown in your bag, and with an overflow bag (a temporary bag that collects last looted items even if you have full bags, it's one time only use, ie last container looted only can go into it, so can't be used as extra bag space) the items would always be emptied in full from a chest/trove/node/etc and things could go on nicely for us all.

As for limits on looting - that's taken care of by fencing/laundering limits + inventory space being limited, and not being able to trade or mail stolen items.

There was no need for any nerfs.

Thrasher91604 · March 2016

I found a few last night. But this was in an underpopulated gold zone and Wrothgar.

Reevster · March 2016

Game makers do this deliberately ( I think) they make some things very common such as the troves or {loot}, for the first few days of a new release etc then "boom" make them rare or rarer..... is why I hoarded a bunch of these Armour sets, I have seen this type of thing before... been playing MMOs since 2000.... I have seen a lot of "strange" things. I could be wrong though

You really think they don't know what the timers are when they do the programing , not likely. Who knows I guess... it was fun for a few days Ha Ha.... mission accomplished.

phreatophile · March 2016

In all the places I typically saw them in Wrothgar, they are no longer there.

I have routes I usually take from Morkul stronghold to the various daily dungeons and back gathering mats and chests along the way, only 1 of them was in the usual spot. Out of curiosity I ran a path to all the thieves troves I could remember a couple times and nothing.

The 1-5 min respawn was a bit much but this is to far in the other direction.

RDMyers65b14_ESO · March 2016

I have found several in my leveling my baby DK. I found four or five this morning, but I was grinding more than trove hunting.

Teridaxus · March 2016

I found one after 2 hours grinding void materials in the gold zones which are basicly empty.

Toxic_Hemlock · March 2016

I seen a yeti right beside one today, he said he was guarding it for big foot.

babylon · March 2016

Toxic_Hemlock wrote: »

I seen a yeti right beside one today, he said he was guarding it for big foot.

And there's a little-known trove found at the bottom of Loch Ness.

phairdon · March 2016

Picked up two yesterday.

Yinmaigao · March 2016

Want an easy solution?

Assign a quest ID to them.

That way there are no bots, everyone has access to them, there is no exploitation, and no one's emersion is broken.

Bogdan_Kobzar · March 2016

I haven't seen or heard one since the v2.3.6 patch was applied on Monday 3/14/2016.
spent 1.5hrs in Hew's Bane (marginally populated- lots of zone complaining about the non-existent thieves troves),
spent 1.5hrs in Cyrodiil (no surprise here though)
spent 2 hrs in an EMPTY Wrothgar zone (this surprised me, found a total of 28 treasure chests but ZERO thieves troves)
then I spent another hour tracking down all the different zone's treasure maps i had just gotten from the chests, and, out of the 12 different areas, not a single thieves trove, lots of complaining in zone chat about the lack of thieves troves though.
hope this makes ya'll feel better....

daemonios · March 2016

Serves us right as a community. First people were camping every single one of these, then they started looting everything but the lockpicks. Sometimes people really suck.

Lysette · March 2016

Bogdan_Kobzar wrote: »

I haven't seen or heard one since the v2.3.6 patch was applied on Monday 3/14/2016.
spent 1.5hrs in Hew's Bane (marginally populated- lots of zone complaining about the non-existent thieves troves),
spent 1.5hrs in Cyrodiil (no surprise here though)
spent 2 hrs in an EMPTY Wrothgar zone (this surprised me, found a total of 28 treasure chests but ZERO thieves troves)
then I spent another hour tracking down all the different zone's treasure maps i had just gotten from the chests, and, out of the 12 different areas, not a single thieves trove, lots of complaining in zone chat about the lack of thieves troves though.
hope this makes ya'll feel better....

Sigh that sounds like it is not working like intended again, just this time the other way round - @ZOS_GinaBruno - Gina could you please put this forward to the devs to look into this?

Malmai · March 2016

lihentian wrote: »

since the patch i haven't seen a single trove.......and i have been to all strange places where not many would visit.. not a single one spotted.. i ask around guild and no one have seen one as well.. which make me wondering are they still in game?

Its always like that when u buy DLC you got shitloads of this till they patch than its 0 xD everytime...