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Magicka sorc using bow

Jaemeson_Foster
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Any reason not to? Not for competitive play, more just for leveling and enjoying playing a "bad" character. Would leveling and doing casual group content suffer horribly from this?
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    If your questing there's nothing wrong but if you trying to do dungeons or trying to do vet dungeons you probably gonna have a bad time
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  • Acsvf
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    Well, if you are just leveling, using a bow would have the opportunity cost of leveling something more useful to a magicka character, such as Destruction Staff, Restoration Staff, Dual Wield, or 1h/s.
    Other than that, not much. Unless you're trying to use the abilities, and I'll tell you: Don't use the bow abilities.
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  • Jaemeson_Foster
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    To clarify, this character is simply for solo content. No groups or vet dungeons, just having fun with the dark ranger archetype :)
  • psychotic13
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    This is what I'm trying to achieve, but for a more competitive PvP build. it's annoying that if you want to use the majority of the class skills (why wouldn't you? I picked the class for a reason) you're forced to use a staff. Why can't I play how I want to play and still be competitive.
  • Jaemeson_Foster
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    How is it working out?
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    To clarify, this character is simply for solo content. No groups or vet dungeons, just having fun with the dark ranger archetype :)

    For PvE Content outside of Trials and some Group Dungeons (namely Vet Dungeons) you can in fact play as you want. It will take longer to take down the mobs, but your character will be successful.

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  • psychotic13
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    Well I've been looking at the formulas for the stats, I'm trying to use them to create a decent hybrid build which would allow use of both. Currently I've come up with 27k max magicka & Stamina and about 2.8k weapon and spell damage for a sorc.

    Still needs a little work I'm playing with the sets ect to see which will give the greatest stats possible and Regen isn't so important as I'd have 2 pools to source from while a pure build will mainly focus on 1 so would require a high regen. But it is difficult obtain a high spell and weapon damage.
  • Jaemeson_Foster
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    So outside of trials and vet dungeons, hybrid builds won't suffer when doing content?
  • Stratforge
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    This is what I'm trying to achieve, but for a more competitive PvP build. it's annoying that if you want to use the majority of the class skills (why wouldn't you? I picked the class for a reason) you're forced to use a staff. Why can't I play how I want to play and still be competitive.

    Not to be nitpicky but there aren't any sorc class skills that require you to use a staff.
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  • smacx250
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    I started my sorc with a bow, and kept it for some time. Later in the game it became a hindrance given how I wanted to play, and I ditched it. If you want to utilize the bow skills, you are going to want a fair amount of stamina. And if you want to use (most of) your sorc skills, you are going to want a fair amount of magicka. This tradeoff will gimp both or one of your bow and/or sorc skills damage (most skill damage scales with your max of one attribute or the other). Ultimately, I found for me it was more fun to play without the bow as I wanted to focus more on the sorc skills (and staff skills are magicka based so have a better synergy with most of the sorc skills), and save my little stam for CC breaks and blocking. But you can make that choice at any time - respec's aren't terribly costly.
    Edit: Also, when you get to the point where you are earning CPs, the physical and magical damage stars are in the same constellation, so to increase both you will need to split the points between them instead of being able to put all (or most) of them in one
    Edited by smacx250 on March 15, 2016 7:33PM
  • psychotic13
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    Stratforge wrote: »
    Not to be nitpicky but there aren't any sorc class skills that require you to use a staff.

    Correct, but the staffs are the only weapon that uses magicka (that's fine) and the way the game is if you want to play the best content (PvP trials and dungeons ect.) you either have to pick to go stamina or magicka, cause hybrids won't be able to compete at that level. I want to use a bow which requires me to choose stamina. Ok not a problem but I still want to be able to use the majority of the class skills, and the majority cost magicka. So I'm forced to either swap the bow for a staff or don't use many of the class skills because if I want to use both, I'm sufficient in dungeons ect.
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    Well it would be possible I think if you have the champion points invested.

    You can get stam cost reduction jewelry and with the right set combination I think it could be fun, to be honest.

    I'm thinking morkuldin_set.jpg + ring_of_the_hunt.jpg

    would be fun as hell, but you would then have to be able to complete VmSA so, maybe thats not possible lol, but I think that type of set up with bow/bow and pets would be sick
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
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  • Jaemeson_Foster
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    What I've decided is to go stam build, and use magicka for cc and dot abilities :)
  • Acsvf
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    What I've decided is to go stam build, and use magicka for cc and dot abilities :)
    I personally wouldn't do that, but you can do what you want.
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  • Jaemeson_Foster
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    Acsvf wrote: »
    What I've decided is to go stam build, and use magicka for cc and dot abilities :)
    I personally wouldn't do that, but you can do what you want.

    Care to explain?
  • Acsvf
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    Acsvf wrote: »
    What I've decided is to go stam build, and use magicka for cc and dot abilities :)
    I personally wouldn't do that, but you can do what you want.

    Care to explain?
    Magicka scaling abilities scale with maximum magicka. Damage over time abilities with magicka scaling as a stamina character won't deal much damage, at all.
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  • Prabooo
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    Acsvf wrote: »
    What I've decided is to go stam build, and use magicka for cc and dot abilities :)
    I personally wouldn't do that, but you can do what you want.

    Care to explain?

    The way this game is designed does not allow for hybrid builds in order to be full competitive. Otherwise, can some hybrid build owner show us a demonstration in PvP?
  • Xvorg
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    What I've decided is to go stam build, and use magicka for cc and dot abilities :)

    Magicka for buffs and utility, stamina for dmg.
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    I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
    For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
    On the wrong day of the wrong week
    Used the wrong method with the wrong technique
  • Jaemeson_Foster
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    Ok so addendum: Using magicka abilities for cc and utility and using stamina for everything else xD The reason I wanted to be magicka so badly is because I want this character's theme to be enhanced through vampirism and up until I actually read the passives and abilities, I thought vampirism only benefitted magicka.
  • cschwingeb14_ESO
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    It's not a terrible idea for ranged magicka sorc, due to the +12% damage passive at long range, and unlike DW, you still get a ranged light attack for ulti generation.

    However, DW gets +5% damage from Twin blade and blunt, higher base spell damage (250-ish) and one more set bonus. Which together give roughly +9-11% damage all the time. Of course, making a gold bow is a ton cheaper than making 2x gold swords
  • aLi3nZ
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    Well I've been looking at the formulas for the stats, I'm trying to use them to create a decent hybrid build which would allow use of both. Currently I've come up with 27k max magicka & Stamina and about 2.8k weapon and spell damage for a sorc.

    Still needs a little work I'm playing with the sets ect to see which will give the greatest stats possible and Regen isn't so important as I'd have 2 pools to source from while a pure build will mainly focus on 1 so would require a high regen. But it is difficult obtain a high spell and weapon damage.
    You could actually use 3x willpower on 1 bar. Inferno willpower staff 2x robust willpower rings and then 3x agility on second bar. 1x arcane agility necklace and 2x agility weapons. Wouldn't be that expensive either. Harder choice is what set prices to wear. I know at least 1 peice Molag kena would be good.
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