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Are you going to stick it out?
Heatley2142
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So after playing constantly since launch on console ive had enough, all my hopes rested on this patch to revitalize the series but after watching streams and reviews of thieves guild, why bother buying it?
Im strictly a PvP player and the only thing i would consider valuable in the TG DLC is the new crafting table locations which is sad. If you love doing quests then thats great you will probably love this DLC , but after you've completed them then what? Farm one trial for 3 months or fight in an empty terribly unbalanced cyrodill. This is quite possibly one of my favorite games but the DEV time (or at least those responsible for the direction its going) behind it has infuriated me to the point where im done.
Who decided that 4 patches a year was a good business model? Every week you have maintenance but change or fix nothing, we are expected to wait until next quarter before you implement change and theres so much change at once it plays host to all sorts of new bugs that we cannot pinpoint the source because you over hauled the game. In my eyes you really ran it into the ground and not to sound harsh but i really hope the poor cogs in this team never get to work on a high profile game such as this one again. But yeah rant over, are any of you guys fed up to the point of putting down ESO? Are you going to stick it out? Or are you enjoying this TG?
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Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on March 15, 2016 8:58PM Im strictly a PvP player and the only thing i would consider valuable in the TG DLC is the new crafting table locations which is sad. If you love doing quests then thats great you will probably love this DLC , but after you've completed them then what? Farm one trial for 3 months or fight in an empty terribly unbalanced cyrodill. This is quite possibly one of my favorite games but the DEV time (or at least those responsible for the direction its going) behind it has infuriated me to the point where im done.
Who decided that 4 patches a year was a good business model? Every week you have maintenance but change or fix nothing, we are expected to wait until next quarter before you implement change and theres so much change at once it plays host to all sorts of new bugs that we cannot pinpoint the source because you over hauled the game. In my eyes you really ran it into the ground and not to sound harsh but i really hope the poor cogs in this team never get to work on a high profile game such as this one again. But yeah rant over, are any of you guys fed up to the point of putting down ESO? Are you going to stick it out? Or are you enjoying this TG?
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Uviryth✭✭✭✭✭Only playing one aspect of a game (stirctly PvP) sound incredibly boring. Of course you wear that element out after a while.7 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭To answer you final questions.
I will stay with the game, I still have fun on a nightly basis. There are new bugs, some frustrating and serious but it's not like we haven't been here before. Two months from now no one will care that Breath of Life was changed, no one will remember the purple textures or the sound issues.
The bugs will be fixed, then everyone in the PvP community will go back to the endless cycle of blaming one another for lag and complaining their class isn't good enough because they were not able to solo 40 enemy players.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."14 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No offense, but a PVP player finding something to rage about is like a drunk dude falling out of bed and finding the floor.
PVP being "revitalized" is completely dependent on a bunch of "victims" er... fellow PVP players actually WANTING to PVP again. The burnout is real, and not entirely related to whatever non-descript bugs you were referring to.
Part of what keeps people away from PVP is the rage-filled attitudes of so many that PVP. What incentive is there for an average person with average time to play to get 1 sec TTK farmed by gold-geared CP farmers?
That said...
In b4 lock.Edited by Phinix1 on March 15, 2016 10:11AM8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Some aspects of what the OP sais I have to agree with, strongly, I mean...its a fact. But Ive decided to stick it out for a while longer...no other game out there
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shepardTHEweak✭✭✭im sick of the bugs to be honest,Wrothgar has never been smooth and playable and is now at the point i cant even go to the main city or the crafting areas of the city with out it getting stuck in a kick to dashboard loop and for the amount of cash i paid to buy it out right its kind of disgusting and is making me think twice about the next DLC and future DLC ,also sticking with the game hoping and praying they fix these bugs is becoming a pain0 -
Heatley2142✭✭The reason i wrote this was mainly just a rant but to actually discourage people from buying the DLC it is very underwhelming, if everyone buys it, it lowers the standard for future DLC's if ZOS knows people will buy it reguardless.
Nobody is getting my stuff lol0 -
shepardTHEweak✭✭✭the state of the game is discouraging me from buying DLC's and the lack of care for its customers/players1
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I_killed_Vivec✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Heatley2142 wrote: »The reason i wrote this was mainly just a rant but to actually discourage people from buying the DLC it is very underwhelming, if everyone buys it, it lowers the standard for future DLC's if ZOS knows people will buy it reguardless.
Nobody is getting my stuff lol
"Im strictly a PvP player"
Not surprising then that you find the DLC very underwhelming. However, those who are not "strictly PvP" might not be swayed by your self-confessed bias.1 -
Thavie✭✭✭✭
Yeah, the point is he doesn't like this game anymore, so what? Nobody cares.Ironically this guy has a point."We grew under a bad sun"1 -
Arobain✭✭✭✭This game is not just about pvp and grinding like other mmos, it is about exploring, enjoying the scenery, building your character in the way you want, so yes, if you treat it like a completely regular mmo, you won't enjoy it, because thats not what it is3 -
Heatley2142✭✭I_killed_Vivec wrote: »Heatley2142 wrote: »The reason i wrote this was mainly just a rant but to actually discourage people from buying the DLC it is very underwhelming, if everyone buys it, it lowers the standard for future DLC's if ZOS knows people will buy it reguardless.
Nobody is getting my stuff lol
"Im strictly a PvP player"
Not surprising then that you find the DLC very underwhelming. However, those who are not "strictly PvP" might not be swayed by your self-confessed bias.
If you enjoy it great! But i honestly want to know what content do you get from this DLC to keep you interested for another 3 months from a PvE perspective? As far as i know it's one trial but correct me if im wrong.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This game is not just about pvp and grinding like other mmos, it is about exploring, enjoying the scenery, building your character in the way you want, so yes, if you treat it like a completely regular mmo, you won't enjoy it, because thats not what it is
^THIS! Even Matt Firor says this game is an RPG vs traditional MMO. So people that come here and expect that ZOS is going to suddenly make PvP a priority in a game that is overwhelmingly dominated by PvE solo-centric players is ludicrous. ZOS KNOWS by game data who is playing what content, they know what players are grouping, what players are more active, etc... do people not think they are going to focus on the majority of what players are playing versus focusing on content that an extreme minority of annoyingly vocal players want. This is a 'for-profit' company and they are going to focus on maximizing their profits over appeasing a small contingent of angry, "If you don't turn this game into what I want then I'm leaving" players, you're fooling yourself if you think they will.CP: 2105 ** ESO+ ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
~~Started Playing: May 2015 | Stopped Playing: July 2025 | Returned: March 2026~~4 -
Tarrin✭✭✭I`m playing since second beta, and i`m not quiting.
Bye.Samurai without a sword
Like a samurai with the sword
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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I decided this year to quit quitting. So I quit quitting mmos as well.3 -
anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Join a Pvp-focused, or even a Pvp-only game, and stop ranting here. Thank you. Good luck.
.Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on March 15, 2016 12:40PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I decided this year to quit quitting. So I quit quitting mmos as well.
James and I are agreeing on something. You know how absolutely messed up that is?1 -
Twilanthe✭✭✭It helps to enjoy more aspects of the game then just one.
Luckily for me I enjoy exploration, questing, finding lorebooks and taking screenshots on beautiful vistas. I enjoy a bit of pvp, and a bit of pve, and running around stealing and pick-pocketing, and I enjoy the lovely past-time of RP.
With crafting writs, skill lines to level, champ points to grind, crafting traits to research, horses to feed, quests to finish, areas to explore, crafting mats to farm, and the occasional pledge or trial when I'm not busy RPing with my guild I find that I have almost too much to do when I log-in.
It is a matter of perspective. If PvP is what you love, and PVP in ESO is not up to snuff, then by all means it is time to find a game that does excite you, and that you do enjoy to play. It is just important to recognize that not everyone shares your opinions, that there are many who still enjoy the game despite it's flaws, and will continue to do so.Lüc - Argonian Necromancer Healer
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Heatley2142 wrote: »The reason i wrote this was mainly just a rant but to actually discourage people from buying the DLC it is very underwhelming, if everyone buys it, it lowers the standard for future DLC's if ZOS knows people will buy it reguardless.
Nobody is getting my stuff lol
you're one way of being a troll then.3 -
RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah anyone who joins a mmo like this for pvp only will be sadly disappointing. You most likely would like a moba and such, and things like call of dutyEdited by RedTalon on March 15, 2016 1:11PM1 -
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✭✭Heatley2142 wrote: »Who decided that 4 patches a year was a good business model?
From memory the original plan was substantial monthly updates (back when it was sub only) but the game didn't sell well enough and they had to scale back that frequency. But compared to other MMOs, ESO does them much more frequently than most.1 -
Florial✭✭✭To answer the OP's question, I'm enjoying the latest DLC but I'm primarily a very casual, PvE centric player. I've been playing the game quite slowly and don't plan on quitting soon. I have been reading the number of PvP complaints though and really hope they start to address some of them. A healthy MMO caters to all playstyles and should be balanced in that regard. Like what some other posters have said, I find many things to do in this game and have a hard time getting around to all of them.
I have taken a bit of a detour though to try out Black Desert Online since I've heard this is the second coming of MMOs (sorry---I don't get it. I guess that it gets better but so far with 3-4 or so hours into the game, I find it confounding and awkward to learn--I keep coming back to ESO). I do admit that at times ESO can become stale and when that happens, I find something else to do. No use getting so upset and bitter about a game that is supposed to be an enjoyable past time.
Good luck OP and I hope you find something else to play that is more to your liking.0 -
Pangnirtung✭✭✭✭✭PVP has influenced this game in more ways than I care to mention.
You can't make everyone happy. Even if you cater solely to PVPers there will still be people that are unhappy and quit.
Sorry to see you leave and good luck in your search for the "perfect" game for you.0 -
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✭✭✭To answer the OP's question, I'm enjoying the latest DLC but I'm primarily a very casual, PvE centric player. I've been playing the game quite slowly and don't plan on quitting soon. I have been reading the number of PvP complaints though and really hope they start to address some of them. A healthy MMO caters to all playstyles and should be balanced in that regard. Like what some other posters have said, I find many things to do in this game and have a hard time getting around to all of them.
I have taken a bit of a detour though to try out Black Desert Online since I've heard this is the second coming of MMOs (sorry---I don't get it. I guess that it gets better but so far with 3-4 or so hours into the game, I find it confounding and awkward to learn--I keep coming back to ESO). I do admit that at times ESO can become stale and when that happens, I find something else to do. No use getting so upset and bitter about a game that is supposed to be an enjoyable past time.
Good luck OP and I hope you find something else to play that is more to your liking.
The next game is always going to be the one to kill ESO. They have been going on and on about how ESO will die since before it was launched. These same people bounce from game to game always complaining never happy. If we could know I bet the same people complaining here will also be complaining at every single other game they go to. You just have to realize at some point there are people who just cannot be pleased no matter what you do. So you ignore those people and work on building your game for the 99% who enjoy it.0 -
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✭Hard to explore areas when everything is pink...@Duiwel:Join ORDER OF SITHIS We're recruiting! PC EU"Dear Brother. I do not spread rumours. I create them..."0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Heatley2142 wrote: »The reason i wrote this was mainly just a rant but to actually discourage people from buying the DLC it is very underwhelming, if everyone buys it, it lowers the standard for future DLC's if ZOS knows people will buy it reguardless.
Clearly a well-informed conclusion, given that you neither own nor have played the DLC.0 -
Requiemslove✭✭✭I am trying to figure out a nice way of saying this. I do like ESO. I love the world of Nirn and the franchise as a entity...but ESO seems devoid of a social aspect. Yes, I know there are no doubt 100's of guilds but what if, like me you just want to play without being in a guild? [for no real reason] And yet still feel there is life out there, and no I do not mean someone else rushing past you to a shard or being in the same dungeon, that's all well and good. I just feel Zenimax would be better served if they ditched zone chat and had faction chat instead, where regardless of whether you are doing caldwells silver or Gold, there is a chat channel in the game for each different faction.
For me, what stops me committing to ESO is the frustration I just described. Heck, I have been back on and off, for 3 weeks, yet constantly find myself wandering back to...another fantasy, one whose origins are from WW1, a fantasy published in the early 1950s...which has an MMO derived from it, which was launched in 2007. Another huge world, the only difference is everyone no matter where you are, your level or abilities you can talk to pretty much everyone with the /world on. Here. I play for 8 hours straight and see 4 different comments, only that's more like just two, because one is about trade the other about issues with a boss. 4 comments from other players, in zone chat in 8 hours. No wonder that other MMO with all its chatter, much of which undoubtedly inane and all, yet always there is life, camaraderie and a feeling of community there. [In 8 hours that chat box will be going full stop often for 50 minutes of an hour at a time...there is rarely a lull]
This is not to say I dislike ESO, I like it a lot, can even end up loving it. I just feel with Zenimax choosing to do things this way is a mistake they could remedy. As MMOs are made of more than just game content. They are made upon community, and I feel Zenimax's choices on the issue do not best reflect ESOs one. As things are now, it's really hard to want to commit to ESO more just to play the games content...no matter how much of it there already is, after less than 2 years.0 -
Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭This game is not just about pvp and grinding like other mmos, it is about exploring, enjoying the scenery, building your character in the way you want, so yes, if you treat it like a completely regular mmo, you won't enjoy it, because thats not what it is
^THIS! Even Matt Firor says this game is an RPG vs traditional MMO. is
Oh please. This game has MMOesque written all over it. Don't let the devs tell you otherwise.
If anyone has ever played an MMO before this game should definitely agree.
"But, but, I can intimidate the NPCs and change my destiny in the story!"
No, no you can't change anything in this games story. It's a click through story just like any other MMO.
"But, but, I can make my character any way I want!"
And who said this is the only MMO to allow this?
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