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ESO Holding Back Skyrim for XB1?
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When I sold off all of my Xbox 360 games, the only 360 disc I kept was Skyrim. I hoped someday that Xbox One would become backwards compatible and I'd be able to play my favorite game again. Now that 360 games can be played on XB1 (once a developer agrees to let Microsoft do so), do you think that Bethesda is holding back making Skyrim available because they don't want to step on ZOS and ESO? Is it fear that XB1 players will leave ESO behind and just go back to Skyrim? Console players, what are your thoughts?
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WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭My fear is that TES6 will not become a reality because of ESO.
having said this, Zenimax is probably holding back the license to prevent backwards compatibility for xbone.9 -
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✭ye just look at the request for it it's iseally 2nd or 3rth
. for some reason behind CoD 
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✭✭✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »My fear is that TES6 will not become a reality because of ESO.
having said this, Zenimax is probably holding back the license to prevent backwards compatibility for xbone.
This is actually my impression as well - there might never be a new TES single player game again.4 -
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✭✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »My fear is that TES6 will not become a reality because of ESO.
having said this, Zenimax is probably holding back the license to prevent backwards compatibility for xbone.
Oh geeze, you're right. I wasn't even thinking about how ESO could impact TES6.1 -
Xerosus✭✭✭I don't really care about Skyrim not being available for Xbox as i think its probably the weakest ES game in recent history.
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Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.11 -
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✭c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.
And there is another factor to it - the longer TES6 is delayed, the more TES fans, who did not join ESO yet, will give it a try, because they will get to feel the withdrawl - you can play the same TES games over and over again, but at some point in time, it simply gets old and you need fresh stuff - and at that point in time, ESO will be polished enough and have more than enough content and TES6 might be delayed indefinitely, because it is more profitable to polish ESO than to create a new game.
Bethesda's Todd Howard said, they are working on a couple of projects, but all of them would be different from what they have done before, but still have a Bethesda feel to them - so TES6 is not in the cards yet or anytime soon.Edited by Lysette on March 15, 2016 4:44AM0 -
Look, I really don't think that Zenimax would be so stupid to prevent Bethesda form developing TES6. People who play ESO will still keep playing Eso, they maybe just do a break and explore the world and story from TES6, and then come back afterwards to ESO. Iwould do so.
And in the meantime, Zenimax could use the time to fix all the issues that are left in ESO^^1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TES6 will be a goldmine for Bethesda. No way they will not make it. They are almost certainly working on it right as we speak, especially now that Fallout 4 is completed. And the increased interest in all things Elder Scrolls when a TES6 comes would likely benefit ESO.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭animositysominab16_ESO wrote: »Look, I really don't think that Zenimax would be so stupid to prevent Bethesda form developing TES6. People who play ESO will still keep playing Eso, they maybe just do a break and explore the world and story from TES6, and then come back afterwards to ESO. Iwould do so.
And in the meantime, Zenimax could use the time to fix all the issues that are left in ESO^^
I see it like this - it costs a huge amount of money to make a single player TES game - multiple times more than it takes to create 2 DLCs for ESO - but it earns just the same - 6 months subscription = 66€ - pretty similar to what a single player game costs. But those 2 DLCs cost just a fraction to produce of what a single player game would cost them. So I do not think that Zenimax is going to shoot into their own feet - and just shift income from one foot to the other - this would not make them any more money, but multiply their costs - so no, there will not be any new TES6 game as long as ESO is profitable.
Just seen from a business perspective.Edited by Lysette on March 15, 2016 4:50AM1 -
AdamBourke✭✭✭✭✭I have no doubt that TES6 is happening. Probably in about two years though.
Given that ESO has very carefully left Elsweyr out, I think it's most likely to be set here. Although it could also be in the Somerset Isles or Black Marsh.
Or... given that the remaining provinces are smaller than skyrim and Cyrodiil, it could include two of them.
But, regardless of where it is set, I am sure it will happen.PS4 - EU
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✭✭✭✭✭Dagoth_Rac wrote: »TES6 will be a goldmine for Bethesda. No way they will not make it. They are almost certainly working on it right as we speak, especially now that Fallout 4 is completed. And the increased interest in all things Elder Scrolls when a TES6 comes would likely benefit ESO.
Todd Howard said, they are working on projects which are unlike anything they did before - so no TES6 in development.
And it is not a goldmine - if income is just shifted from one Zenimax sub-company to another one - that is the same amount of money in the same organisation - but much higher costs - for not more gain - that would be pretty stupid to do that. instead Bethesda works on something else - this will bring in new money, not just shift it around in the Zenimax organisation.Edited by Lysette on March 15, 2016 4:57AM0 -
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✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.
And there is another factor to it - the longer TES6 is delayed, the more TES fans, who did not join ESO yet, will give it a try, because they will get to feel the withdrawl - you can play the same TES games over and over again, but at some point in time, it simply gets old and you need fresh stuff - and at that point in time, ESO will be polished enough and have more than enough content and TES6 might be delayed indefinitely, because it is more profitable to polish ESO than to create a new game.
Bethesda's Todd Howard said, they are working on a couple of projects, but all of them would be different from what they have done before, but still have a Bethesda feel to them - so TES6 is not in the cards yet or anytime soon.
Great post, but that is a lot of hope to think this current crew can polish a dirty turd
ESO has charm, has potential, but the current crew is squandering it away.
ESO will never replace the charm a TES game brings, and people are still modding TESIII-V to this day with fresh content. Content that is free.....while ZOS charges 25 bucks for a mount.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.
And there is another factor to it - the longer TES6 is delayed, the more TES fans, who did not join ESO yet, will give it a try, because they will get to feel the withdrawl - you can play the same TES games over and over again, but at some point in time, it simply gets old and you need fresh stuff - and at that point in time, ESO will be polished enough and have more than enough content and TES6 might be delayed indefinitely, because it is more profitable to polish ESO than to create a new game.
Bethesda's Todd Howard said, they are working on a couple of projects, but all of them would be different from what they have done before, but still have a Bethesda feel to them - so TES6 is not in the cards yet or anytime soon.
Great post, but that is a lot of hope to think this current crew can polish a dirty turd ESO has charm, has potential, but the current crew is squandering it away.
ESO will never replace the charm a TES game brings, and people are still modding TESIII-V to this day with fresh content. Content that is free.....while ZOS charges 25 bucks for a mount.
Yeah but that is the point - as long as 3 sold mounts, which costs them like nothing in production, earn them the same amount of money as selling a TES6 box, it would be stupid to invest into the production of TES6 - they rather go for something else and let Bethesda do something unrelated to not get into the way.Edited by Lysette on March 15, 2016 5:01AM0 -
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✭There is no way in hell that they'll hold back (for longer than 3-4 more years at worst) another Single Player Elder Scrolls game.
They generate MASSIVE buzz and profits.Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...0 -
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✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.
The parent company of Bethesda is Zenimax Media inc, not ZOS. Zenimax Media inc also own ID Software and a load of other big publishers/developers, they wouldn't have any specific interest in ZOS. Bethesda own the TES IP but that is the extent of their involvment with ESO, they haven't had to invest any resources into the development of ESO and therefore ESO shouldn't have any impact on the development of TES6.PC | EU0 -
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✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.
And there is another factor to it - the longer TES6 is delayed, the more TES fans, who did not join ESO yet, will give it a try, because they will get to feel the withdrawl - you can play the same TES games over and over again, but at some point in time, it simply gets old and you need fresh stuff - and at that point in time, ESO will be polished enough and have more than enough content and TES6 might be delayed indefinitely, because it is more profitable to polish ESO than to create a new game.
Bethesda's Todd Howard said, they are working on a couple of projects, but all of them would be different from what they have done before, but still have a Bethesda feel to them - so TES6 is not in the cards yet or anytime soon.
Great post, but that is a lot of hope to think this current crew can polish a dirty turd ESO has charm, has potential, but the current crew is squandering it away.
ESO will never replace the charm a TES game brings, and people are still modding TESIII-V to this day with fresh content. Content that is free.....while ZOS charges 25 bucks for a mount.
Yeah but that is the point - as long as 3 sold mounts, which costs them like nothing in production, earn them the same amount of money as selling a TES6 box, it would be stupid to invest into the production of TES6 - they rather go for something else and let Bethesda do something unrelated to not get into the way.
You are aware the TES games have been selling more copies every release? Skyrim sold over 20 million copies....ESO can't compete with that....
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✭✭✭✭✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.
The parent company of Bethesda is Zenimax Media inc, not ZOS. Zenimax Media inc also own ID Software and a load of other big publishers/developers, they wouldn't have any specific interest in ZOS. Bethesda own the TES IP but that is the extent of their involvment with ESO, they haven't had to invest any resources into the development of ESO and therefore ESO shouldn't have any impact on the development of TES6.
These guys do business - they have investors - they do not f*ck around, they have to deliver, not games, but return on investment - the whole organisation is involved in this and interconnected. They do not deliver, their investors will not be happy and this means management skulls roll - they do not kill themselves by decisions which do not make investors happy.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.
And there is another factor to it - the longer TES6 is delayed, the more TES fans, who did not join ESO yet, will give it a try, because they will get to feel the withdrawl - you can play the same TES games over and over again, but at some point in time, it simply gets old and you need fresh stuff - and at that point in time, ESO will be polished enough and have more than enough content and TES6 might be delayed indefinitely, because it is more profitable to polish ESO than to create a new game.
Bethesda's Todd Howard said, they are working on a couple of projects, but all of them would be different from what they have done before, but still have a Bethesda feel to them - so TES6 is not in the cards yet or anytime soon.
Great post, but that is a lot of hope to think this current crew can polish a dirty turd ESO has charm, has potential, but the current crew is squandering it away.
ESO will never replace the charm a TES game brings, and people are still modding TESIII-V to this day with fresh content. Content that is free.....while ZOS charges 25 bucks for a mount.
Yeah but that is the point - as long as 3 sold mounts, which costs them like nothing in production, earn them the same amount of money as selling a TES6 box, it would be stupid to invest into the production of TES6 - they rather go for something else and let Bethesda do something unrelated to not get into the way.
You are aware the TES games have been selling more copies every release? Skyrim sold over 20 million copies....ESO can't compete with that....
yeah 20 million copies - for how many years of investment? - you have to see that as well - if I recall correctly those were 5 years of development - 60 months of paying the salaries of hundreds of developers, plus office and asset maintenance plus travel costs and so on and so on - this is a huge amount of money - then they do not get the retail price of a copy, but a lot less, because all the others involved in the distribution process want to have like 50% of the cake as well if not more.
On the other side how much could ESO earn in those 5 years without to costs any near that much? Compare that and then those 20 million copies do not look that marvelous anymore - I think ESO has income-wise more potential.Edited by Lysette on March 15, 2016 5:18AM0 -
KhajiitiLizard✭✭✭✭✭The only way TES:VI would kill ESO if it had multiplayer... which it will not. I still play the other TES games. TES:VI would only compete with ESO in the same way any other new game would. Sure you might lose the solo questers for a while... but when they get lonely... what do you think they'd do? They'd login to ESO. Well, if the game is still worth playing by then.
Look at other MMOs. People still play Everquest and GW1, even though there are sequels.
Also look at the Final Fantasy games... they still released single player games while also having MMOs... whose to say the same can't work for Elder Scrolls?
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✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.
The parent company of Bethesda is Zenimax Media inc, not ZOS. Zenimax Media inc also own ID Software and a load of other big publishers/developers, they wouldn't have any specific interest in ZOS. Bethesda own the TES IP but that is the extent of their involvment with ESO, they haven't had to invest any resources into the development of ESO and therefore ESO shouldn't have any impact on the development of TES6.
These guys do business - they have investors - they do not f*ck around, they have to deliver, not games, but return on investment - the whole organisation is involved in this and interconnected. They do not deliver, their investors will not be happy and this means management skulls roll - they do not kill themselves by decisions which do not make investors happy.
My point was they wouldn't just favour a company based on it sharing a name. The comment I replied to said that Zenimax Media inc would squash tes6 because tes6 would destroy eso. Doesn't sound like good reasoning is all.PC | EU0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭KhajiitiLizard wrote: »The only way TES:VI would kill ESO if it had multiplayer... which it will not. I still play the other TES games. TES:VI would only compete with ESO in the same way any other new game would. Sure you might lose the solo questers for a while... but when they get lonely... what do you think they'd do? They'd login to ESO. Well, if the game is still worth playing by then.
Look at other MMOs. People still play Everquest and GW1, even though there are sequels.
Also look at the Final Fantasy games... they still released single player games while also having MMOs... whose to say the same can't work for Elder Scrolls?
Yes but while they are playing TES6 - the income in ESO decreases - income is just shifted from one foot to the other - and Zenimax is standing on both - it does not change a thing for them - it is not more win - just the same amount of money shifted around, nothing what would really cover the costs of development - that is why Bethesda is now doing something else, in order for both legs to produce income - can't you see that - is my metaphor so bad, that it cannot be seen?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »FriedEggSandwich wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.
The parent company of Bethesda is Zenimax Media inc, not ZOS. Zenimax Media inc also own ID Software and a load of other big publishers/developers, they wouldn't have any specific interest in ZOS. Bethesda own the TES IP but that is the extent of their involvment with ESO, they haven't had to invest any resources into the development of ESO and therefore ESO shouldn't have any impact on the development of TES6.
These guys do business - they have investors - they do not f*ck around, they have to deliver, not games, but return on investment - the whole organisation is involved in this and interconnected. They do not deliver, their investors will not be happy and this means management skulls roll - they do not kill themselves by decisions which do not make investors happy.
My point was they wouldn't just favour a company based on it sharing a name. The comment I replied to said that Zenimax Media inc would squash tes6 because tes6 would destroy eso. Doesn't sound like good reasoning is all.
not destroy it - sure it won't - but it takes away income from ESO for a while - they get more on one leg "Bethesda" and less on the other leg "ZOS" where they are standing on - so the balance of it is - not really a lot more at all - but they had the costs of development and need to cover them - the longer TES6 players do not spend money in ESO, the more loss it is in the end - that is why they do not do that - it would economically be silly.0 -
KhajiitiLizard✭✭✭✭✭You really think everyone would stop playing ESO for TES:VI?
You can play ESO without ever spending a dime after buying the game. I want TES:VI to be released. Maybe then ZOS would actually release more group PVE and PVP stuff. People will take a break for a while and play TES:VI, but they would do that for any game. This new thing that Bethesda is working on? Guess what it would take players away from ESO as well... any new thing would, for a while anyway.
You really think Zenimax would put the end to one of the best single player franchises of all time? No, because they like money.
Just because a new game comes out doesn't mean you are no longer allowed to play anything else.Edited by KhajiitiLizard on March 15, 2016 5:36AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭KhajiitiLizard wrote: »You really think everyone would stop playing ESO for TES:VI?
You can play ESO without ever spending a dime after buying the game. I want TES:VI to be released. Maybe then ZOS would actually release more group PVE and PVP stuff. People will take a break for a while and play TES:VI, but they would do that for any game. This new thing that Bethesda is working on? Guess what it would take players away from ESO as well... any new thing would, for a while anyway.
You really think Zenimax would put the end to one of the best single player franchises of all time? No, because they like money.
Just because a new game comes out doesn't mean you are no longer allowed to play anything else.
Well, I am tired of trying to explain that to you for a 3rd if not 4th time - you would make for quite incapable business persons, that's for certain - no pun intended, but it is clear, that you cannot see the point here.
Edit: not at the current time at least - it would be shooting into their own feet - not much more win, it woujld just be shifted, but a lot more costs, which cannot be covered by this - it would be silly, is that so hard to understand. They can think of doing TES6 when ESO is in massive decline, what it is not.Edited by Lysette on March 15, 2016 5:42AM0 -
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✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »FriedEggSandwich wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.
The parent company of Bethesda is Zenimax Media inc, not ZOS. Zenimax Media inc also own ID Software and a load of other big publishers/developers, they wouldn't have any specific interest in ZOS. Bethesda own the TES IP but that is the extent of their involvment with ESO, they haven't had to invest any resources into the development of ESO and therefore ESO shouldn't have any impact on the development of TES6.
These guys do business - they have investors - they do not f*ck around, they have to deliver, not games, but return on investment - the whole organisation is involved in this and interconnected. They do not deliver, their investors will not be happy and this means management skulls roll - they do not kill themselves by decisions which do not make investors happy.
My point was they wouldn't just favour a company based on it sharing a name. The comment I replied to said that Zenimax Media inc would squash tes6 because tes6 would destroy eso. Doesn't sound like good reasoning is all.
not destroy it - sure it won't - but it takes away income from ESO for a while - they get more on one leg "Bethesda" and less on the other leg "ZOS" where they are standing on - so the balance of it is - not really a lot more at all - but they had the costs of development and need to cover them - the longer TES6 players do not spend money in ESO, the more loss it is in the end - that is why they do not do that - it would economically be silly.
But why do you think Zenimax Media inc would prefer the success of eso to the potential success of tes6? I would imagine tes6 had greater potential to earn than eso. Yeah eso has the whole cash shop thing but tes6 would be much more mainstream and sell multiple times more, with dlc. I'm not an expert on these things, just going on gut feeling so I'm prepared to be wrong.PC | EU0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭FriedEggSandwich wrote: »FriedEggSandwich wrote: »FriedEggSandwich wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Bethesda, as far as I am aware, are not involved with ESO in any way, shape, or form. It caters to a specific type of customer, completely separate from what they've done with the franchise thus far.
I find it highly unlikely that ESO will interfere with development of TES: VI, and if it does the impact will be minimal. I imagine it will be built on a new engine, or at least I hope so, which means they won't be able to re-use as much (if anything) in the development of a new game. That will, of course, lengthen the process considerably.
I don't really know much, or anything really, about game development. I do know, however, that ZOS would not be foolish enough to kill off the single-player franchise.
Bethesda would never use a modified hero engine for their game... and a TES6 game would destroy ESO....so the parent company Zenimax, would squash it.
The parent company of Bethesda is Zenimax Media inc, not ZOS. Zenimax Media inc also own ID Software and a load of other big publishers/developers, they wouldn't have any specific interest in ZOS. Bethesda own the TES IP but that is the extent of their involvment with ESO, they haven't had to invest any resources into the development of ESO and therefore ESO shouldn't have any impact on the development of TES6.
These guys do business - they have investors - they do not f*ck around, they have to deliver, not games, but return on investment - the whole organisation is involved in this and interconnected. They do not deliver, their investors will not be happy and this means management skulls roll - they do not kill themselves by decisions which do not make investors happy.
My point was they wouldn't just favour a company based on it sharing a name. The comment I replied to said that Zenimax Media inc would squash tes6 because tes6 would destroy eso. Doesn't sound like good reasoning is all.
not destroy it - sure it won't - but it takes away income from ESO for a while - they get more on one leg "Bethesda" and less on the other leg "ZOS" where they are standing on - so the balance of it is - not really a lot more at all - but they had the costs of development and need to cover them - the longer TES6 players do not spend money in ESO, the more loss it is in the end - that is why they do not do that - it would economically be silly.
But why do you think Zenimax Media inc would prefer the success of eso to the potential success of tes6? I would imagine tes6 had greater potential to earn than eso. Yeah eso has the whole cash shop thing but tes6 would be much more mainstream and sell multiple times more, with dlc. I'm not an expert on these things, just going on gut feeling so I'm prepared to be wrong.
It cost as well a lot more - and win is basically just shifted from one source of income (ZOS) to another one (Bethesda) - that is not really more win for the whole Zenimax group, if you take it from one source and put it on another - while if Bethesda works on something unrelated, what they currently do, this will be an additional source of income, which can cover the development costs easily (well, if it is successful that is).
Edit: and why would they prefer it - because they have the boots of their investors in their a*se - they have to produce return on investment and ESO was not a small investment - now it has to produce ROI to make the investors happy - it is in its milk cow phase now, they don't shoot their dairy cow when it is in high production.Edited by Lysette on March 15, 2016 5:50AM0
