You were right - Radiant Destruction

sirrmattus · March 2016

@AfkNinja

dude, you dont speak for the templar community. I know you wish you did, but you dont. I been playing templar from the start. This doesnt make anything better, it makes things worse.

Minno · March 2016

Bashev wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

mag temps dont even need any other skill in pvp anymore

Gina said they already looked into this and you are wrong, It's working as intended. Don't let yourself get to 30% HP when fighting a Templar or they will execute you. Like pretty much EVERY CLASS WILL.

Another nerf to the HP builds. You stuck HP to be tanky (not the case in ESO), then you drop under 30% (under 15k HP, almost as a Sorc total HP) and then boom, you are dead with 1 skill. @wrobel - that guy is so incompetent for PvP that it is not funny anymore.

You're not understanding what is happening when it is used against you cause the death recap only shows the total dmg.

Let's use an extreme example of someone with 42,000 hp, this is a LARGE amount of hp and most people will not have that much. 15,000 hp would be 35%. If you have 15,000 hp (35%) this is what happens when a Templar hits RD:

first tick: 5,000~8000, you are now at 23% hp or less (execute range)
second tick 10,000 dmg +

Most people don't have 42,000 hp however so let's use an example with 30,000.

15,000 hp of 30,000 is 50% of course. At 50% HP RD gets NO bonus.

First tick: 2,000 - 3,000 = 12,000~ hp left = 40%
Second tick 5,000 - 8,000 = 4,000 hp left ~ = 13%
Third tick: 15,000 dmg + = dead. You had 4k hp tho so most of the dmg was irrelevant.

This means you have more than a full second to stop the channel in almost all scenarios (bash or CC), heal or break line of sight. Most of the SS's i've seen of the "ridiculous" dmg was caused by the second/third tick of radiant hitting them when they are at less than 10% HP. If you're under 10% hp Radiant will hit like a nuke, however almost ALL of that dmg is wasted because you were about to die anyway.

Edit: 3K + 8k + 15k = 26,000~27,000 people are seeing. 3 full seconds.

I know exactly what is happening against me. I play with 45k hp and 3k magicka regen build. I try to be a PvP tank and provide my group with CC and debuffs. The problem is that the range of the skill is 36m in Cyro. Sometimes you have more than 2-3 ppl spamming the skill on you and they are just hoping that you will drop HP and then you die instantly. The skill is not anymore dodgable and @Wrobel forbade blocking (no stamina regen). Sadly I do not have 12k shield + 10k magicka shield. I reallize that templars need DPS but this is too much.

A difficult situation to be in for sure.
If you are a Templar tank you have access to purge and RD is still purgable.
If you are a DK tank, any CC will do (including talons to inflict minor maim against mutiple enemies to reduce their dmg.)
You still have block too, you just can't hold it for too long.

But against groups of enemies I'm afraid it becomes a "1vx" limitation issue not a specific skill issue (meaning even skills like brawler will be OP if it's in this context).

sirrmattus · March 2016

[/quote]There is a counter to Dark flare which is roll dodge and reflect. There is no real counter to RD. The problem with the ESO community is that most of the ppl defend their OP skills. It happens rarely some ppl as @blabafat who points out how broken are some skills for their class. That is why we will never have a balance in this game.[/quote]

afkninja seems to not understand this...

Artjuh90 · March 2016

Brrrofski wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

Mr_Nobody wrote: »

Or like the 20meter self empowered WBs
Or like 25k shields
Or like fear
Or like "I am a stamina nightblade, I can only use cloak 7 times in a row"
Or like...

someone please continue these were the first ones that came to my mind.

your making stuff up. none of that is possible in pvp. no sorc can get 25k shield in pvp. no stam nb can cloak 7 times much less 3

You can easilly get to 20k with hardened, harness and healing ward.

Stam NBs can cloak 4, maybe 5 times if using drinks.

you are aware radiant blocks you from being cloaked right

Bashev · March 2016

Minno wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

mag temps dont even need any other skill in pvp anymore

Gina said they already looked into this and you are wrong, It's working as intended. Don't let yourself get to 30% HP when fighting a Templar or they will execute you. Like pretty much EVERY CLASS WILL.

Another nerf to the HP builds. You stuck HP to be tanky (not the case in ESO), then you drop under 30% (under 15k HP, almost as a Sorc total HP) and then boom, you are dead with 1 skill. @wrobel - that guy is so incompetent for PvP that it is not funny anymore.

You're not understanding what is happening when it is used against you cause the death recap only shows the total dmg.

Let's use an extreme example of someone with 42,000 hp, this is a LARGE amount of hp and most people will not have that much. 15,000 hp would be 35%. If you have 15,000 hp (35%) this is what happens when a Templar hits RD:

first tick: 5,000~8000, you are now at 23% hp or less (execute range)
second tick 10,000 dmg +

Most people don't have 42,000 hp however so let's use an example with 30,000.

15,000 hp of 30,000 is 50% of course. At 50% HP RD gets NO bonus.

First tick: 2,000 - 3,000 = 12,000~ hp left = 40%
Second tick 5,000 - 8,000 = 4,000 hp left ~ = 13%
Third tick: 15,000 dmg + = dead. You had 4k hp tho so most of the dmg was irrelevant.

This means you have more than a full second to stop the channel in almost all scenarios (bash or CC), heal or break line of sight. Most of the SS's i've seen of the "ridiculous" dmg was caused by the second/third tick of radiant hitting them when they are at less than 10% HP. If you're under 10% hp Radiant will hit like a nuke, however almost ALL of that dmg is wasted because you were about to die anyway.

Edit: 3K + 8k + 15k = 26,000~27,000 people are seeing. 3 full seconds.

I know exactly what is happening against me. I play with 45k hp and 3k magicka regen build. I try to be a PvP tank and provide my group with CC and debuffs. The problem is that the range of the skill is 36m in Cyro. Sometimes you have more than 2-3 ppl spamming the skill on you and they are just hoping that you will drop HP and then you die instantly. The skill is not anymore dodgable and @Wrobel forbade blocking (no stamina regen). Sadly I do not have 12k shield + 10k magicka shield. I reallize that templars need DPS but this is too much.

A difficult situation to be in for sure.
If you are a Templar tank you have access to purge and RD is still purgable.
If you are a DK tank, any CC will do (including talons to inflict minor maim against mutiple enemies to reduce their dmg.)
You still have block too, you just can't hold it for too long.

But against groups of enemies I'm afraid it becomes a "1vx" limitation issue not a specific skill issue (meaning even skills like brawler will be OP if it's in this context).

I understand that the main issues is that I face a lot of enemies. The problem that I have with this skill is that the range is too big to be interrupted by a mele class. I cannot even debuff these enemies because of the range. Then without blocking (no stamina regen) and it is not dodgable, what can I do?

AfkNinja · March 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

There is a counter to Dark flare which is roll dodge and reflect. There is no real counter to RD. The problem with the ESO community is that most of the ppl defend their OP skills. It happens rarely some ppl as @blabafat who points out how broken are some skills for their class. That is why we will never have a balance in this game.[/quote]

afkninja seems to not understand this...[/quote]

There are tons of counters to Radiant. Purge is one, Bash is one. CC is one. Line of sight is one. Harness Magicka is one. It sounds like you just don't want to use them. Also I am not "defending my OP skill" I don't use it, I play Stamplar. I handle Radiant rather well even in the new patch. I just don't whine about being outnumbered and losing a fight.

Also, resorting to personal attacks doesn't help get your point across. You know nothing about me.

There are also two CP you can invest in to lower the dmg hahahaha.

Also, Blabafat already admitted he was wrong so.......maybe if you actually understood your Templar I wouldn't have to educate you.

Ra'Shtar · March 2016

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

Mr_Nobody wrote: »

Or like the 20meter self empowered WBs
Or like 25k shields
Or like fear
Or like "I am a stamina nightblade, I can only use cloak 7 times in a row"
Or like...

someone please continue these were the first ones that came to my mind.

your making stuff up. none of that is possible in pvp. no sorc can get 25k shield in pvp. no stam nb can cloak 7 times much less 3

You can easilly get to 20k with hardened, harness and healing ward.

Stam NBs can cloak 4, maybe 5 times if using drinks.

you are aware radiant blocks you from being cloaked right

You are aware that crushing shock or bashing interrupts RD right?

puffy99 · March 2016

Just have to have your Gap closer ready to go...or run purge.
Doesn't seem that difficult.

Minno · March 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

There is a counter to Dark flare which is roll dodge and reflect. There is no real counter to RD. The problem with the ESO community is that most of the ppl defend their OP skills. It happens rarely some ppl as @blabafat who points out how broken are some skills for their class. That is why we will never have a balance in this game.

afkninja seems to not understand this...[/quote[/quote]]

Full list of Magic, Stamina, Distance, and Close up ways to counter RD (by @Mrs_Quietus )

Bash
Block
Don't roll
Don't mist form
Stonefist
Crushing Shock
Deepbreath
Flame Reach
WB
Magnum Shot
Javelin
Power Bash
Cloak
Purge
Purify
Crystal Frag
Familiar Explosion
Prison
Silver Shards(if vamp)
Dawnbreaker(if vamp)
Turn Undead(if vamp)
Fear
Meteor
Fire Rune
Drain(vamp)
LOS
Howl(WW)
Dragonleap
Soul Tether
Incapacitating Strike
Agony
Petrify
Any Shield(Hardened, Rock, Blazing, Magic Harness, Healing Ward)
Toppling(when it works)
Luminous Shards
Streak
Venom Arrow

sirrmattus · March 2016

AfkNinja wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

There is a counter to Dark flare which is roll dodge and reflect. There is no real counter to RD. The problem with the ESO community is that most of the ppl defend their OP skills. It happens rarely some ppl as @blabafat who points out how broken are some skills for their class. That is why we will never have a balance in this game.

afkninja seems to not understand this...[/quote]

There are tons of counters to Radiant. Purge is one, Bash is one. CC is one. Line of sight is one. Harness Magicka is one. It sounds like you just don't want to use them. Also I am not "defending my OP skill" I don't use it, I play Stamplar. I handle Radiant rather well even in the new patch. I just don't whine about being outnumbered and losing a fight.

Also, resorting to personal attacks doesn't help get your point across. You know nothing about me.

There are also two CP you can invest in to lower the dmg hahahaha.

Also, Blabafat already admitted he was wrong so.......maybe if you actually understood your Templar I wouldn't have to educate you.[/quote]

i didnt atack you. far from an attack, son.

sirrmattus · March 2016

puffy99 wrote: »

Just have to have your Gap closer ready to go...or run purge.
Doesn't seem that difficult.

purge cost 6k magick.. CMON MAN!!!

Tonnopesce · March 2016

AfkNinja wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

mag temps dont even need any other skill in pvp anymore

Gina said they already looked into this and you are wrong, It's working as intended. Don't let yourself get to 30% HP when fighting a Templar or they will execute you. Like pretty much EVERY CLASS WILL.

What about magika DK's ?????

On topic i have a terrible combo in pvp with my Templar: Dark flare (you need to make it invisible) > Dark flare ( empowered and invisible ) > Aurora Javelin > Radiant Destruction, Pretty much everyone who got hit die even almighty DK's with the Flappy Wings cant do nothing against bugged Templars.

Enraged_Tiki_Torch · March 2016

Minno wrote: »

Full list of Magic, Stamina, Distance, and Close up ways to counter RD (by @Mrs_Quietus )

Bash
Block
Don't roll
Don't mist form
Stonefist
Crushing Shock
Deepbreath
Flame Reach
WB
Magnum Shot
Javelin
Power Bash
Cloak
Purge
Purify
Crystal Frag
Familiar Explosion
Prison
Silver Shards(if vamp)
Dawnbreaker(if vamp)
Turn Undead(if vamp)
Fear
Meteor
Fire Rune
Drain(vamp)
LOS
Howl(WW)
Dragonleap
Soul Tether
Incapacitating Strike
Agony
Petrify
Any Shield(Hardened, Rock, Blazing, Magic Harness, Healing Ward)
Toppling(when it works)
Luminous Shards
Streak
Venom Arrow

This should be stickied.

Ra'Shtar · March 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

puffy99 wrote: »

Just have to have your Gap closer ready to go...or run purge.
Doesn't seem that difficult.

purge cost 6k magick.. CMON MAN!!!

Basically you want to counter things without effort...

MaxwellC · March 2016

Lol radiant destruction has always been OP even prior to this patch. I get hit at 90% HP from someone using radiant destruction from a far I end up dying from a death cap of a 5k ambush from another player while another hits me for a 16k radiant destruction.

nine9six · March 2016

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

puffy99 wrote: »

Just have to have your Gap closer ready to go...or run purge.
Doesn't seem that difficult.

purge cost 6k magick.. CMON MAN!!!

Basically you want to counter things without effort...

Way better to die and *** on the forums than run a counter. Didn't you know?

Minno · March 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

puffy99 wrote: »

Just have to have your Gap closer ready to go...or run purge.
Doesn't seem that difficult.

purge cost 6k magick.. CMON MAN!!!

Unless you are a Templar with purifying ritual.
There are other counters to use besides purge.

Poison arrow for stam and crushing shock for magicka will be the easiest to introduce DPS with an interrupt utility.

Bfish22090 · March 2016

pop immovable pot then spam AFK RD
GG FTW

Minno · March 2016

Bashev wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

mag temps dont even need any other skill in pvp anymore

Gina said they already looked into this and you are wrong, It's working as intended. Don't let yourself get to 30% HP when fighting a Templar or they will execute you. Like pretty much EVERY CLASS WILL.

Another nerf to the HP builds. You stuck HP to be tanky (not the case in ESO), then you drop under 30% (under 15k HP, almost as a Sorc total HP) and then boom, you are dead with 1 skill. @wrobel - that guy is so incompetent for PvP that it is not funny anymore.

You're not understanding what is happening when it is used against you cause the death recap only shows the total dmg.

Let's use an extreme example of someone with 42,000 hp, this is a LARGE amount of hp and most people will not have that much. 15,000 hp would be 35%. If you have 15,000 hp (35%) this is what happens when a Templar hits RD:

first tick: 5,000~8000, you are now at 23% hp or less (execute range)
second tick 10,000 dmg +

Most people don't have 42,000 hp however so let's use an example with 30,000.

15,000 hp of 30,000 is 50% of course. At 50% HP RD gets NO bonus.

First tick: 2,000 - 3,000 = 12,000~ hp left = 40%
Second tick 5,000 - 8,000 = 4,000 hp left ~ = 13%
Third tick: 15,000 dmg + = dead. You had 4k hp tho so most of the dmg was irrelevant.

This means you have more than a full second to stop the channel in almost all scenarios (bash or CC), heal or break line of sight. Most of the SS's i've seen of the "ridiculous" dmg was caused by the second/third tick of radiant hitting them when they are at less than 10% HP. If you're under 10% hp Radiant will hit like a nuke, however almost ALL of that dmg is wasted because you were about to die anyway.

Edit: 3K + 8k + 15k = 26,000~27,000 people are seeing. 3 full seconds.

I know exactly what is happening against me. I play with 45k hp and 3k magicka regen build. I try to be a PvP tank and provide my group with CC and debuffs. The problem is that the range of the skill is 36m in Cyro. Sometimes you have more than 2-3 ppl spamming the skill on you and they are just hoping that you will drop HP and then you die instantly. The skill is not anymore dodgable and @Wrobel forbade blocking (no stamina regen). Sadly I do not have 12k shield + 10k magicka shield. I reallize that templars need DPS but this is too much.

A difficult situation to be in for sure.
If you are a Templar tank you have access to purge and RD is still purgable.
If you are a DK tank, any CC will do (including talons to inflict minor maim against mutiple enemies to reduce their dmg.)
You still have block too, you just can't hold it for too long.

But against groups of enemies I'm afraid it becomes a "1vx" limitation issue not a specific skill issue (meaning even skills like brawler will be OP if it's in this context).

I understand that the main issues is that I face a lot of enemies. The problem that I have with this skill is that the range is too big to be interrupted by a mele class. I cannot even debuff these enemies because of the range. Then without blocking (no stamina regen) and it is not dodgable, what can I do?

I posted a full list of the abilities available to counter RD. They work and cheapest will be block/shields. I've had my Radiant glory dmg not working from full health-40% because my enemy was block.
You have to remember a Templar is not free to move during this channel; so you should be able to close the gap and interrupt.

nine9six · March 2016

Minno wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

mag temps dont even need any other skill in pvp anymore

Gina said they already looked into this and you are wrong, It's working as intended. Don't let yourself get to 30% HP when fighting a Templar or they will execute you. Like pretty much EVERY CLASS WILL.

Another nerf to the HP builds. You stuck HP to be tanky (not the case in ESO), then you drop under 30% (under 15k HP, almost as a Sorc total HP) and then boom, you are dead with 1 skill. @wrobel - that guy is so incompetent for PvP that it is not funny anymore.

You're not understanding what is happening when it is used against you cause the death recap only shows the total dmg.

Let's use an extreme example of someone with 42,000 hp, this is a LARGE amount of hp and most people will not have that much. 15,000 hp would be 35%. If you have 15,000 hp (35%) this is what happens when a Templar hits RD:

first tick: 5,000~8000, you are now at 23% hp or less (execute range)
second tick 10,000 dmg +

Most people don't have 42,000 hp however so let's use an example with 30,000.

15,000 hp of 30,000 is 50% of course. At 50% HP RD gets NO bonus.

First tick: 2,000 - 3,000 = 12,000~ hp left = 40%
Second tick 5,000 - 8,000 = 4,000 hp left ~ = 13%
Third tick: 15,000 dmg + = dead. You had 4k hp tho so most of the dmg was irrelevant.

This means you have more than a full second to stop the channel in almost all scenarios (bash or CC), heal or break line of sight. Most of the SS's i've seen of the "ridiculous" dmg was caused by the second/third tick of radiant hitting them when they are at less than 10% HP. If you're under 10% hp Radiant will hit like a nuke, however almost ALL of that dmg is wasted because you were about to die anyway.

Edit: 3K + 8k + 15k = 26,000~27,000 people are seeing. 3 full seconds.

I know exactly what is happening against me. I play with 45k hp and 3k magicka regen build. I try to be a PvP tank and provide my group with CC and debuffs. The problem is that the range of the skill is 36m in Cyro. Sometimes you have more than 2-3 ppl spamming the skill on you and they are just hoping that you will drop HP and then you die instantly. The skill is not anymore dodgable and @Wrobel forbade blocking (no stamina regen). Sadly I do not have 12k shield + 10k magicka shield. I reallize that templars need DPS but this is too much.

A difficult situation to be in for sure.
If you are a Templar tank you have access to purge and RD is still purgable.
If you are a DK tank, any CC will do (including talons to inflict minor maim against mutiple enemies to reduce their dmg.)
You still have block too, you just can't hold it for too long.

But against groups of enemies I'm afraid it becomes a "1vx" limitation issue not a specific skill issue (meaning even skills like brawler will be OP if it's in this context).

I understand that the main issues is that I face a lot of enemies. The problem that I have with this skill is that the range is too big to be interrupted by a mele class. I cannot even debuff these enemies because of the range. Then without blocking (no stamina regen) and it is not dodgable, what can I do?

You have to remember a Templar is not free to move during this channel...

...something something something...I'm in my house...something something something...

Ahzek · March 2016

There is no issue with countering RD. The issue is countering RD while being busy doing smth else. This is mostly true for stamina builds who are used to roll dodge at low health in order to get some breathing room. Esecially against multiple opponents. This is not possible with Rd and people hate ot for it. And so do I.

Tonnopesce · March 2016

Minno wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

mag temps dont even need any other skill in pvp anymore

Gina said they already looked into this and you are wrong, It's working as intended. Don't let yourself get to 30% HP when fighting a Templar or they will execute you. Like pretty much EVERY CLASS WILL.

Another nerf to the HP builds. You stuck HP to be tanky (not the case in ESO), then you drop under 30% (under 15k HP, almost as a Sorc total HP) and then boom, you are dead with 1 skill. @wrobel - that guy is so incompetent for PvP that it is not funny anymore.

You're not understanding what is happening when it is used against you cause the death recap only shows the total dmg.

Let's use an extreme example of someone with 42,000 hp, this is a LARGE amount of hp and most people will not have that much. 15,000 hp would be 35%. If you have 15,000 hp (35%) this is what happens when a Templar hits RD:

first tick: 5,000~8000, you are now at 23% hp or less (execute range)
second tick 10,000 dmg +

Most people don't have 42,000 hp however so let's use an example with 30,000.

15,000 hp of 30,000 is 50% of course. At 50% HP RD gets NO bonus.

First tick: 2,000 - 3,000 = 12,000~ hp left = 40%
Second tick 5,000 - 8,000 = 4,000 hp left ~ = 13%
Third tick: 15,000 dmg + = dead. You had 4k hp tho so most of the dmg was irrelevant.

This means you have more than a full second to stop the channel in almost all scenarios (bash or CC), heal or break line of sight. Most of the SS's i've seen of the "ridiculous" dmg was caused by the second/third tick of radiant hitting them when they are at less than 10% HP. If you're under 10% hp Radiant will hit like a nuke, however almost ALL of that dmg is wasted because you were about to die anyway.

Edit: 3K + 8k + 15k = 26,000~27,000 people are seeing. 3 full seconds.

I know exactly what is happening against me. I play with 45k hp and 3k magicka regen build. I try to be a PvP tank and provide my group with CC and debuffs. The problem is that the range of the skill is 36m in Cyro. Sometimes you have more than 2-3 ppl spamming the skill on you and they are just hoping that you will drop HP and then you die instantly. The skill is not anymore dodgable and @Wrobel forbade blocking (no stamina regen). Sadly I do not have 12k shield + 10k magicka shield. I reallize that templars need DPS but this is too much.

A difficult situation to be in for sure.
If you are a Templar tank you have access to purge and RD is still purgable.
If you are a DK tank, any CC will do (including talons to inflict minor maim against mutiple enemies to reduce their dmg.)
You still have block too, you just can't hold it for too long.

But against groups of enemies I'm afraid it becomes a "1vx" limitation issue not a specific skill issue (meaning even skills like brawler will be OP if it's in this context).

I understand that the main issues is that I face a lot of enemies. The problem that I have with this skill is that the range is too big to be interrupted by a mele class. I cannot even debuff these enemies because of the range. Then without blocking (no stamina regen) and it is not dodgable, what can I do?

I posted a full list of the abilities available to counter RD. They work and cheapest will be block/shields. I've had my Radiant glory dmg not working from full health-40% because my enemy was block.
You have to remember a Templar is not free to move during this channel; so you should be able to close the gap and interrupt.

Sorry but this is soo wrong, Close the gap and interrupt requires too much time and with my ex bosmer stamplar i can do 16-20k a second in execute range.

A quick way to avoid the radiant destruction is to roll doge behind something but you need to be aware of what's around you to do so...

sirrmattus · March 2016

Ahzek wrote: »

There is no issue with countering RD. The issue is countering RD while being busy doing smth else. This is mostly true for stamina builds who are used to roll dodge at low health in order to get some breathing room. Esecially against multiple opponents. This is not possible with Rd and people hate ot for it. And so do I.

yep. first instinct is to roll dodge or cloak. neither can stop RD

puffy99 · March 2016

yeah after getting wrecked by WB players and NB running fear- SA all day long I really don't care...

ThatGuyCameron · March 2016

This is a legit L2P issue.

rfennell_ESO · March 2016

I just read the defenders posts and preface them with "I deserve to win".

Even worse is the extremely vociferous defender that's the opposite of somebody is also the opposite of legit.

sirrmattus · March 2016

It isnt a bias opinion. I normally main a templar. This overpowered execute is ridiculous. You guys defense is, "this is op and thats op so whats wrong with radiant being op?"

AfkNinja · March 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

It isnt a bias opinion. I normally main a templar. This overpowered execute is ridiculous. You guys defense is, "this is op and thats op so whats wrong with radiant being op?"

No, we've pointed out it is not OP and functions in a similar manner to other executes you just refuse to admit there is a possibility you are wrong. Blabafat admitted he was wrong, why can't you? You have tons of options to stop it. Your argument makes it seem like you want to 1vX against multiple people/Templar's and not have to worry about RD despite the fact is has numerous counters. If you ignore a Magic Templar in a 1vX they are going to execute you as soon as you hit 30% period. Just like ANYONE would with any execute. You want to be able to dodge roll it but ZOS has decided it should not be dodge-rollable. Use one of the other counters. Lure your opponents into an area where you can manipulate line of sight for an advantage. Don't stand out in the open and 1vX against 3 Templar's, it's really quite simple.

sirrmattus · March 2016

AfkNinja wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

It isnt a bias opinion. I normally main a templar. This overpowered execute is ridiculous. You guys defense is, "this is op and thats op so whats wrong with radiant being op?"

No, we've pointed out it is not OP and functions in a similar manner to other executes you just refuse to admit there is a possibility you are wrong. Blabafat admitted he was wrong, why can't you? You have tons of options to stop it. Your argument makes it seem like you want to 1vX against multiple people/Templar's and not have to worry about RD despite the fact is has numerous counters. If you ignore a Magic Templar in a 1vX they are going to execute you as soon as you hit 30% period. Just like ANYONE would with any execute. You want to be able to dodge roll it but ZOS has decided it should not be dodge-rollable. Use one of the other counters. Lure your opponents into an area where you can manipulate line of sight for an advantage. Don't stand out in the open and 1vX against 3 Templar's, it's really quite simple.

im not the one crying about 1vX multiple templars. Its very simple the skill does too much damage. No other skill can do 19k in pvp besides overload, but it can be reflected and dodged.

AfkNinja · March 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

It isnt a bias opinion. I normally main a templar. This overpowered execute is ridiculous. You guys defense is, "this is op and thats op so whats wrong with radiant being op?"

No, we've pointed out it is not OP and functions in a similar manner to other executes you just refuse to admit there is a possibility you are wrong. Blabafat admitted he was wrong, why can't you? You have tons of options to stop it. Your argument makes it seem like you want to 1vX against multiple people/Templar's and not have to worry about RD despite the fact is has numerous counters. If you ignore a Magic Templar in a 1vX they are going to execute you as soon as you hit 30% period. Just like ANYONE would with any execute. You want to be able to dodge roll it but ZOS has decided it should not be dodge-rollable. Use one of the other counters. Lure your opponents into an area where you can manipulate line of sight for an advantage. Don't stand out in the open and 1vX against 3 Templar's, it's really quite simple.

im not the one crying about 1vX multiple templars. Its very simple the skill does too much damage. No other skill can do 19k in pvp besides overload, but it can be reflected and dodged.

As I explained in post #22 the 19,000-27,000 dmg you are seeing is for the full channel and almost all of that dmg is from the final tick where you're under 10% hp. As you are under 10% hp almost ALL of that dmg is WASTED DMG. You were going to die anyway. Most of the DMG of RD is irrelevant cause it's overflow dmg, how is this so hard for you to understand? Post a screen shot of the INDIVIDUAL ticks of RD and stop making things up.

If you have 5,000 hp and RD hits you for 19,000 then 14,000 of it was IRRELEVANT. Get it?