Simple question. Is overload OP?

Xandyaffonso · March 2016

Ahzek · March 2016

Sucks

PvP point of view. Its only really useful for the skill bar and butchering scrubs.

lolo_01b16_ESO · March 2016

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It's a good ultimate, has some situations where it really shines but in other situations other ultimates are way better so I wouldn't say it's op.

Emma_Overload · March 2016

Sucks

All the scummy Stamblades who deserve an Overload in the face just roll dodge it, unfortunately.

Marktoneth3 · March 2016

OP

Just simple LMB click is enough to kill ppl in Cyrodill

Turelus · March 2016

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I have never seen it give any indication of being overpowered.

I think terms like overpowered, gamebreaking etc. get thrown around all too often on these forums the moment someone encounters something which does something they can't.

This ultimate has it's uses in PvE boss fights for example it can be very strong, some PvP senses it can be strong. However say vs a cloaking Nightblade it has no power at all, you can't see them so it's not overpowered as it won't counter them.

I think as long as a skill is not the go to skill and no counters then it shouldn't be considered overpowered. They can be considered strong, and in need of adjustment though.

ToRelax · March 2016

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Wouldn't call it OP, however especially with the dodge/block/ball of lightning/eclipse/purifying ritual/cloak nerfs one shouldn't be able to store as many shots and spam it for so long.

rfennell_ESO · March 2016

For the sheer annoyance of reflected overloads it's probably ok. There can be quite a risk of using it haha.

I think overload + min/maxing is a problem and that's likely a % stat increase problem and certain races being overwhelmingly better issue.

Jaronking · March 2016

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Personally its only really good in PVE in PVP its very situational and not that reliable because it can be roll dodged or reflected back at the caster.So I have no problem with the skill as is since it has counters and not always reliable.

Molec · March 2016

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Xandyaffonso wrote: »

Overload it seems was given to players as a potential method to regen magika, with the correct rotation I can live on 600regen and still do 25k dps single target.. Sorc is a very dynamic class

however once you are up against a DK or any stam build capable of dodge rolling then you are screwed..

Forestd16b14_ESO · March 2016

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All ultimates have pros and cons....... well expect Meteor now cause ZOS was smoking something strong to make it a divine ultimate and think it was a good idea and not change it back to it's fair and balanced reflectable self.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · March 2016

the only thing op if anytning is, is 1000 ult pool.

strikeback1247 · March 2016

Balanced in PvP, but OP in PvE.

ListerJMC · March 2016

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I can't really talk about pvp, but in pve many sorcerers I know (including myself) use it to help with sustain as it returns magicka while doing damage. I also use it for targets that need to be burned down fast like those exploding storm atronachs in White-Gold Tower, but it's mostly for resource management at least for me. The VR16 sorcerers I know who do trials and things only have between 800-900 magicka regeneration (on an Altmer) so it really helps.

I've never really thought of it as OP, but I haven't gotten my stamina nightblade DPS to max level yet to see what his sustain is like so I don't really have anything to compare it to right now.

RoamingRiverElk · March 2016

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Could limit it to like 500 ultimate...
Also, the synergy with Molag Kena is a bit... much. x)

Septimus_Magna · March 2016

Normal for pve, sorc dps wouldnt be good otherwise.

For pvp it depends on the opponents class and skill.
Overload is really strong vs players who dont know how to counter it.
But its useless (or even dangerous) against players who know the counters.

Forestd16b14_ESO · March 2016

Other

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Balanced in PvP, but OP in PvE.

Please anything is OP in PVE.

KoreanAwtamatic · March 2016

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I love reflecting Overload with my stamplar in PVP

crislevin · March 2016

is jesus beam op? not even an ult.

FriedEggSandwich · March 2016

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It's borderline op in pvp imo. Most experienced players will have ways of avoiding it, because it is essentially easy to avoid when you know what it looks and sounds like. But if you land one it does rediculous damage and costs nothing so is spammable. If it was cheap to block or easier to spot I would say it was balanced. Atm it's not as easy to avoid as it should be imo, especially for newer players. It can look like a bit like a lightening staff light attack and the sound it makes when being used is subtle, although the toggle-on sound isn't.

Dodge-rolling it and blocking it is expensive for magicka builds, and it's only since 1.7 that my ward is strong enough to absorb it. Back in 1.6 I couldn't even cast shields fast enough to absorb it, and I definitely thought it was op back then; if I got caught out in the open with an overload spammer I couldn't block it, dodge it or absorb it, there was nothing I could do to counter it and that is the definition of op is it not? I still don't know how a shieldless magicka build would counter it. For these reasons my 'fix' has always just been to make it cheap to block, i.e cost little stamina to block to make it easier to deal with spam.

Bofrari · March 2016

L2P issue.

ToRelax · March 2016

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FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

It's borderline op in pvp imo. Most experienced players will have ways of avoiding it, because it is essentially easy to avoid when you know what it looks and sounds like. But if you land one it does rediculous damage and costs nothing so is spammable. If it was cheap to block or easier to spot I would say it was balanced. Atm it's not as easy to avoid as it should be imo, especially for newer players. It can look like a bit like a lightening staff light attack and the sound it makes when being used is subtle, although the toggle-on sound isn't.

Dodge-rolling it and blocking it is expensive for magicka builds, and it's only since 1.7 that my ward is strong enough to absorb it. Back in 1.6 I couldn't even cast shields fast enough to absorb it, and I definitely thought it was op back then; if I got caught out in the open with an overload spammer I couldn't block it, dodge it or absorb it, there was nothing I could do to counter it and that is the definition of op is it not? I still don't know how a shieldless magicka build would counter it. For these reasons my 'fix' has always just been to make it cheap to block, i.e cost little stamina to block to make it easier to deal with spam.

Weird, I was always able to tank one overload spammer with shields fairly easily in 1.6. The only problem I have with it is pretty much the same as with any hard hitting spammable skills, they cost disproportionally less resources than defensive actions to deal with them. Aside from shields and reflects, wich apart from Hardened Ward don't work against many attacks, and are also very limited in their effect, thus not enough for an outnumbered fight.

NBrookus · March 2016

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The 3rd bar provides unique utility, plus the ultimate reservoir. And sorcs don't really have any other spammable hard hitting class skills. So the trade-off seems reasonable to me.

That said, my sorc doesn't use it because it has a habit of not firing every time you tell it to.

Humatiel · March 2016

While I believe overload is OP let's be honest, without it Sorc would cease to exist.

FriedEggSandwich · March 2016

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ToRelax wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

It's borderline op in pvp imo. Most experienced players will have ways of avoiding it, because it is essentially easy to avoid when you know what it looks and sounds like. But if you land one it does rediculous damage and costs nothing so is spammable. If it was cheap to block or easier to spot I would say it was balanced. Atm it's not as easy to avoid as it should be imo, especially for newer players. It can look like a bit like a lightening staff light attack and the sound it makes when being used is subtle, although the toggle-on sound isn't.

Dodge-rolling it and blocking it is expensive for magicka builds, and it's only since 1.7 that my ward is strong enough to absorb it. Back in 1.6 I couldn't even cast shields fast enough to absorb it, and I definitely thought it was op back then; if I got caught out in the open with an overload spammer I couldn't block it, dodge it or absorb it, there was nothing I could do to counter it and that is the definition of op is it not? I still don't know how a shieldless magicka build would counter it. For these reasons my 'fix' has always just been to make it cheap to block, i.e cost little stamina to block to make it easier to deal with spam.

Weird, I was always able to tank one overload spammer with shields fairly easily in 1.6. The only problem I have with it is pretty much the same as with any hard hitting spammable skills, they cost disproportionally less resources than defensive actions to deal with them. Aside from shields and reflects, wich apart from Hardened Ward don't work against many attacks, and are also very limited in their effect, thus not enough for an outnumbered fight.

It might well have been the zero cp in elemental defender up against players with cp in elemental expert, but yeah.. top gun used to drive me nuts.

aLi3nZ · March 2016

I think its boarder line OP in PVP and PVE. Up there with WB and Ambush/Lotus Fan/Surprise Attack. Its not fun to use, Clunky and really limits what you can do as you can't weapon swap and have 1 bar. Bolts travel slow and can be seen a mile away. Mostly just good for PVE. non overload sorc vs overload sorc in pvp the non overload sorc should win with normal rotation because of CC abilities and options to heal easily.

EsoRecon · March 2016

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aLi3nZ wrote: »

I think its boarder line OP in PVP and PVE. Up there with WB and Ambush/Lotus Fan/Surprise Attack. Its not fun to use, Clunky and really limits what you can do as you can't weapon swap and have 1 bar. Bolts travel slow and can be seen a mile away. Mostly just good for PVE. non overload sorc vs overload sorc in pvp the non overload sorc should win with normal rotation because of CC abilities and options to heal easily.

Noob Alert saying WB is OP pheww... WB is the easiest thing to counter. I can't remember the last time I was hit by one. Was it 3 months ago or 5?

EsoRecon · March 2016

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Humatiel wrote: »

While I believe overload is OP let's be honest, without it Sorc would cease to exist.

NOT true they would still be able to shield stack in pvp and be the best tanks in game.

Tormy · March 2016

EsoRecon wrote: »

aLi3nZ wrote: »

I think its boarder line OP in PVP and PVE. Up there with WB and Ambush/Lotus Fan/Surprise Attack. Its not fun to use, Clunky and really limits what you can do as you can't weapon swap and have 1 bar. Bolts travel slow and can be seen a mile away. Mostly just good for PVE. non overload sorc vs overload sorc in pvp the non overload sorc should win with normal rotation because of CC abilities and options to heal easily.

Noob Alert saying WB is OP pheww... WB is the easiest thing to counter. I can't remember the last time I was hit by one. Was it 3 months ago or 5?

WB is easy to counter but the broken cc and insane range on it is clearly overpowered lol. I've never had a problem with overload but then again I always run a reflect skill for you pesky sorcs

crislevin · March 2016

EsoRecon wrote: »

Humatiel wrote: »

While I believe overload is OP let's be honest, without it Sorc would cease to exist.

NOT true they would still be able to shield stack in pvp and be the best tanks in game.

so nobody else can stack shield? as if Templars, DKs has no shield?

you either consider the class balance as a whole, or forget about it.

in case OP didn't know, ZOS runs statistics, what is OP, what is not, they have data to show it. Guess why BOL and FH got nerfed while overload didn't?

asking pointless questions just because you can't instakill someone, is dumber than ever.

EsoRecon · March 2016

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crislevin wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Humatiel wrote: »

While I believe overload is OP let's be honest, without it Sorc would cease to exist.

NOT true they would still be able to shield stack in pvp and be the best tanks in game.

so nobody else can stack shield? as if Templars, DKs has no shield?

you either consider the class balance as a whole, or forget about it.

in case OP didn't know, ZOS runs statistics, what is OP, what is not, they have data to show it. Guess why BOL and FH got nerfed while overload didn't?

asking pointless questions just because you can't instakill someone, is dumber than ever.

Do dks and templars have harden ward? Didn't think so... BTW I can still instakill magsorcs

And don't respond with uhhhhh you can shield stack with healing ward. No. not nearly as effective.

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