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I find PvP in ESO to be horrible. Any shortcuts to get my alliance rank to level 5 quickly?
LordTareq
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See title. I thought I'd give the PvP a go in ESO after the thieves guild patch. However my experience has been abysmal. My pc is a bit older, that said I can do all the PvE stuff in ESO just fine with all my settings on high. However in PvP:
- There is horrible lag whenever I meet more than a couple of other players. During keep battles the enemy players don't even load on my screen, I just get killed without seeing anyone attacking me. I can barely hit any enemy player. In 3 hours of keep sieges I might have gotten three hits in.
- I only recently got a mount, when joining a group everyone moves twice as fast. Meaning when we go somewhere, every enemy player is dead before I arrive. Sometimes a whole bloody keep is taken before I am there.
- Teleporting somewhere or doing anything that involves a loading screen (like reloading UI) takes like 5-10 minutes. By the time the loading screen is gone, the nearby keep is taken and the whole group is on the other side of the map attacking something else. So I end up having to pass yet another loading screen.
- I am only VR 10 with blue gear and 150 or so champion points. (Stamina nightblade, using dual wield on 1 bar and bow on second) 9 out of 10 players I run into are VR16 min-maxed dudes that kill me in 2 hits. Meanwhile I struggle to do damage. Even my strongest attack from stealth (lethal strike) when I pull it off does like 10% of their healthpool in damage.
After spending most of my day yesterday PvP'ing, I got only like halfway from alliance rank 3 to 4. Considering how much I hated the experience, I really don't want to repeat that experience several times. All I want is to get to assault rank 5 at this point to get the only stamina based heal my character can get, any pointers on how I can get this as effortless as possible are more than welcome.
Edited by LordTareq on March 13, 2016 1:15PM - There is horrible lag whenever I meet more than a couple of other players. During keep battles the enemy players don't even load on my screen, I just get killed without seeing anyone attacking me. I can barely hit any enemy player. In 3 hours of keep sieges I might have gotten three hits in.
- I only recently got a mount, when joining a group everyone moves twice as fast. Meaning when we go somewhere, every enemy player is dead before I arrive. Sometimes a whole bloody keep is taken before I am there.
- Teleporting somewhere or doing anything that involves a loading screen (like reloading UI) takes like 5-10 minutes. By the time the loading screen is gone, the nearby keep is taken and the whole group is on the other side of the map attacking something else. So I end up having to pass yet another loading screen.
- I am only VR 10 with blue gear and 150 or so champion points. (Stamina nightblade, using dual wield on 1 bar and bow on second) 9 out of 10 players I run into are VR16 min-maxed dudes that kill me in 2 hits. Meanwhile I struggle to do damage. Even my strongest attack from stealth (lethal strike) when I pull it off does like 10% of their healthpool in damage.
After spending most of my day yesterday PvP'ing, I got only like halfway from alliance rank 3 to 4. Considering how much I hated the experience, I really don't want to repeat that experience several times. All I want is to get to assault rank 5 at this point to get the only stamina based heal my character can get, any pointers on how I can get this as effortless as possible are more than welcome.
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Crown✭✭✭✭✭
✭There is horrible lag whenever I meet more than a couple of other players. During keep battles the enemy players don't even load on my screen, I just get killed without seeing anyone attacking me. I can barely hit any enemy player. In 3 hours of keep sieges I might have gotten three hits in.
Welcome to ESO PvP.I only recently got a mount, when joining a group everyone moves twice as fast. Meaning when we go somewhere, every enemy player is dead before I arrive. Sometimes a whole bloody keep is taken before I am there.
Welcome to ESO PvP. Come back in 2 months when you've gotten your riding skill to max. Prepare any other characters that you intend to play in the future (like 6 months from now) by starting to get your daily riding skill upgrade. We used to be able to feed a horse every day (one stam, one carry, one speed), but they split that up so now it takes 6 months to max out a character's riding skill. Or you could pay $180 in crowns to max that out right away. Please don't do that - it only validates a very poor decision on the part of someone..Teleporting somewhere or doing anything that involves a loading screen (like reloading UI) takes like 5-10 minutes. By the time the loading screen is gone, the nearby keep is taken and the whole group is on the other side of the map attacking something else. So I end up having to pass yet another loading screen.
Welcome to ESO PvP. If you're solo, load screens tend to be less horrible. The larger your group the worse they are. Nobody knows why.I am only VR 10 with blue gear and 150 or so champion points. (Stamina nightblade, using dual wield on 1 bar and bow on second) 9 out of 10 players I run into are VR16 min-maxed dudes that kill me in 2 hits. Meanwhile I struggle to do damage. Even my strongest attack from stealth (ambush) when I pull it off does like 10% of their healthpool in damage.
Welcome to ESO PvP. Go complete some quests or grind out to VR16. Come back to PvP once you've done that and have equiped at least purple gear with optimal sets for your play style.After spending most of my day yesterday PvP'ing, I got only like halfway from alliance rank 3 to 4. Considering how much I hated the experience, I really don't want to repeat that experience several times. All I want is to get to assault rank 5 at this point to get the only stamina based heal my character can get, any pointers on how I can get this as effortless as possible are more than welcome.
Welcome to ESO PvP. Unfortunately you're not going to have a good time until you're VR16. If you're AD/PC/NA then you're welcome to whisper me in game, and I can get you into Resilient (guild that helps people learn PvP), and invite you to one of my PvP training groups.Crown | AD NB | First AD/NA Grand Overlord (2015/12/26)
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LordTareq✭✭✭✭✭There is horrible lag whenever I meet more than a couple of other players. During keep battles the enemy players don't even load on my screen, I just get killed without seeing anyone attacking me. I can barely hit any enemy player. In 3 hours of keep sieges I might have gotten three hits in.
Welcome to ESO PvP.I only recently got a mount, when joining a group everyone moves twice as fast. Meaning when we go somewhere, every enemy player is dead before I arrive. Sometimes a whole bloody keep is taken before I am there.
Welcome to ESO PvP. Come back in 2 months when you've gotten your riding skill to max. Prepare any other characters that you intend to play in the future (like 6 months from now) by starting to get your daily riding skill upgrade. We used to be able to feed a horse every day (one stam, one carry, one speed), but they split that up so now it takes 6 months to max out a character's riding skill. Or you could pay $180 in crowns to max that out right away. Please don't do that - it only validates a very poor decision on the part of someone..Teleporting somewhere or doing anything that involves a loading screen (like reloading UI) takes like 5-10 minutes. By the time the loading screen is gone, the nearby keep is taken and the whole group is on the other side of the map attacking something else. So I end up having to pass yet another loading screen.
Welcome to ESO PvP. If you're solo, load screens tend to be less horrible. The larger your group the worse they are. Nobody knows why.I am only VR 10 with blue gear and 150 or so champion points. (Stamina nightblade, using dual wield on 1 bar and bow on second) 9 out of 10 players I run into are VR16 min-maxed dudes that kill me in 2 hits. Meanwhile I struggle to do damage. Even my strongest attack from stealth (ambush) when I pull it off does like 10% of their healthpool in damage.
Welcome to ESO PvP. Go complete some quests or grind out to VR16. Come back to PvP once you've done that and have equiped at least purple gear with optimal sets for your play style.After spending most of my day yesterday PvP'ing, I got only like halfway from alliance rank 3 to 4. Considering how much I hated the experience, I really don't want to repeat that experience several times. All I want is to get to assault rank 5 at this point to get the only stamina based heal my character can get, any pointers on how I can get this as effortless as possible are more than welcome.
Welcome to ESO PvP. Unfortunately you're not going to have a good time until you're VR16. If you're AD/PC/NA then you're welcome to whisper me in game, and I can get you into Resilient (guild that helps people learn PvP), and invite you to one of my PvP training groups.
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I play on EU, otherwise I would have taken you up on your offer.Get a new computa.
Unfortunately that is not an option for me. I will eventually of course, but so far it's not really needed so not on short-term. I can play any game I like as long as I don't try to max out graphics of the latest ones, and I won't buy a new pc just to make 1 aspect of ESO more playable.Will trade you for an Impen Monster Helm.
Thank you, but I have no idea what a Monster Helm is.0 -
MrBM✭✭Why do PvE players feel so entitled to PvP skills?
Because they were told before the game came out that they can be any race, class and use it anyway you want and do whatever you want with it. But then they forgot they actually had to PvP to get other cool skills which requires hours of playing time. I don't cry because I don't have a certain monster helm or shoulder I just go and do the freaking dungeon and get it. lol I don't understand how PvEers can do the same content 1,000s of times and never PvP makes zero sense. Myself I enjoy all of it but once I've done it times upon times I get sick of it. At least in PvP things are unpredictable sometimes.PC/Xbox NA
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Nexus (NX)
Xbox Guild: Guildmaster of Pug Rebellium
EP Dark Elf Nightblade: Mr BM
EP Imperial Nightblade: 'Ichigo Kurosaki
EP Lizard lolz Templar: 'Minori
EP Orc Dragonknight: Get Lept Upon
EP Wood Elf Nightblade: 'Sode no Shirayuki
EP High Elf Sorc: Bolts for Pugs
EP Dark Elf Dragonknight: Whip of Dreams
EP Imperial Sorc: i Saber i
AD Dark Elf Dragonknight: Mrs BM4 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why do PvE players feel so entitled to PvP skills?
Because they were told before the game came out that they can be any race, class and use it anyway you want and do whatever you want with it. But then they forgot they actually had to PvP to get other cool skills which requires hours of playing time. I don't cry because I don't have a certain monster helm or shoulder I just go and do the freaking dungeon and get it. lol I don't understand how PvEers can do the same content 1,000s of times and never PvP makes zero sense. Myself I enjoy all of it but once I've done it times upon times I get sick of it. At least in PvP things are unpredictable sometimes.
i dont understand how pvp'rs can take/retake the same keeps and kill the same players over and over,then get on your horse and ride for 10mins after u die and repeat all over again.4 -
MrBM✭✭Why do PvE players feel so entitled to PvP skills?
Because they were told before the game came out that they can be any race, class and use it anyway you want and do whatever you want with it. But then they forgot they actually had to PvP to get other cool skills which requires hours of playing time. I don't cry because I don't have a certain monster helm or shoulder I just go and do the freaking dungeon and get it. lol I don't understand how PvEers can do the same content 1,000s of times and never PvP makes zero sense. Myself I enjoy all of it but once I've done it times upon times I get sick of it. At least in PvP things are unpredictable sometimes.
i dont understand how pvp'rs can take/retake the same keeps and kill the same players over and over,then get on your horse and ride for 10mins after u die and repeat all over again.
As I said things can be unpredictable at times, nor is every campaign the same and you can always find a way to PvP in a different way. So killing the same mobs and bosses over and over again?????? So your point was? And who rides for 10mins? lol upgrade your mount already, it's 2016.PC/Xbox NA
PC Guild: Imperator Rebellium (IR)
Nexus (NX)
Xbox Guild: Guildmaster of Pug Rebellium
EP Dark Elf Nightblade: Mr BM
EP Imperial Nightblade: 'Ichigo Kurosaki
EP Lizard lolz Templar: 'Minori
EP Orc Dragonknight: Get Lept Upon
EP Wood Elf Nightblade: 'Sode no Shirayuki
EP High Elf Sorc: Bolts for Pugs
EP Dark Elf Dragonknight: Whip of Dreams
EP Imperial Sorc: i Saber i
AD Dark Elf Dragonknight: Mrs BM4 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why do PvE players feel so entitled to PvP skills?
Because they were told before the game came out that they can be any race, class and use it anyway you want and do whatever you want with it. But then they forgot they actually had to PvP to get other cool skills which requires hours of playing time. I don't cry because I don't have a certain monster helm or shoulder I just go and do the freaking dungeon and get it. lol I don't understand how PvEers can do the same content 1,000s of times and never PvP makes zero sense. Myself I enjoy all of it but once I've done it times upon times I get sick of it. At least in PvP things are unpredictable sometimes.
i dont understand how pvp'rs can take/retake the same keeps and kill the same players over and over,then get on your horse and ride for 10mins after u die and repeat all over again.
As I said things can be unpredictable at times, nor is every campaign the same and you can always find a way to PvP in a different way. So killing the same mobs and bosses over and over again?????? So your point was? And who rides for 10mins? lol upgrade your mount already, it's 2016.
pve can be unpredictable too,not everyone runs the same content in the same situation,with the same people. WB spam will not work on bosses,sorry. hiding in corner sniping wont work on a boss,sorry. your on XBOX,just wait til you get the rapids nerf patch my friend,youll be riding 20mins.2 -
MrBM✭✭Why do PvE players feel so entitled to PvP skills?
Because they were told before the game came out that they can be any race, class and use it anyway you want and do whatever you want with it. But then they forgot they actually had to PvP to get other cool skills which requires hours of playing time. I don't cry because I don't have a certain monster helm or shoulder I just go and do the freaking dungeon and get it. lol I don't understand how PvEers can do the same content 1,000s of times and never PvP makes zero sense. Myself I enjoy all of it but once I've done it times upon times I get sick of it. At least in PvP things are unpredictable sometimes.
i dont understand how pvp'rs can take/retake the same keeps and kill the same players over and over,then get on your horse and ride for 10mins after u die and repeat all over again.
As I said things can be unpredictable at times, nor is every campaign the same and you can always find a way to PvP in a different way. So killing the same mobs and bosses over and over again?????? So your point was? And who rides for 10mins? lol upgrade your mount already, it's 2016.
pve can be unpredictable too,not everyone runs the same content in the same situation,with the same people. WB spam will not work on bosses,sorry. hiding in corner sniping wont work on a boss,sorry. your on XBOX,just wait til you get the rapids nerf patch my friend,youll be riding 20mins.
lol you do know you can fast travel depending on what the map looks like? I can ride without rapids (never on my bar unless for a reason other than riding my mount) from one corner of the map to the other in less than 5 mins lol you clearly do not have a good sense of time. But anyways you want Proxy and Vigor well they have given it to you on a GOLDEN platter. So easy to get them now. Way too easy. EasyModeESOPC/Xbox NA
PC Guild: Imperator Rebellium (IR)
Nexus (NX)
Xbox Guild: Guildmaster of Pug Rebellium
EP Dark Elf Nightblade: Mr BM
EP Imperial Nightblade: 'Ichigo Kurosaki
EP Lizard lolz Templar: 'Minori
EP Orc Dragonknight: Get Lept Upon
EP Wood Elf Nightblade: 'Sode no Shirayuki
EP High Elf Sorc: Bolts for Pugs
EP Dark Elf Dragonknight: Whip of Dreams
EP Imperial Sorc: i Saber i
AD Dark Elf Dragonknight: Mrs BM3 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why do PvE players feel so entitled to PvP skills?
Because they were told before the game came out that they can be any race, class and use it anyway you want and do whatever you want with it. But then they forgot they actually had to PvP to get other cool skills which requires hours of playing time. I don't cry because I don't have a certain monster helm or shoulder I just go and do the freaking dungeon and get it. lol I don't understand how PvEers can do the same content 1,000s of times and never PvP makes zero sense. Myself I enjoy all of it but once I've done it times upon times I get sick of it. At least in PvP things are unpredictable sometimes.
i dont understand how pvp'rs can take/retake the same keeps and kill the same players over and over,then get on your horse and ride for 10mins after u die and repeat all over again.
As I said things can be unpredictable at times, nor is every campaign the same and you can always find a way to PvP in a different way. So killing the same mobs and bosses over and over again?????? So your point was? And who rides for 10mins? lol upgrade your mount already, it's 2016.
pve can be unpredictable too,not everyone runs the same content in the same situation,with the same people. WB spam will not work on bosses,sorry. hiding in corner sniping wont work on a boss,sorry. your on XBOX,just wait til you get the rapids nerf patch my friend,youll be riding 20mins.
It's not that slow with 60 speed horse, also rapids works in your group, i assume someone in your group has rapids...
If not slot it yourself.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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LordTareq✭✭✭✭✭Why do PvE players feel so entitled to PvP skills?
Who says entitled? Just asking for help to get it as fast as possible.
Also I usually PvP a lot in MMO's. I played Warhammer Online for a long time doing mostly PvP, and ESO is very similar to that. I preferred WHO's approach of having PvP lakes within PvE zones, rather than this one humongous zone we have in ESO and I prefer ESO's 3 faction system, but other than that the open world pvp was very similar. However both games failed in properly implementing the technical side of this. WHO was unable to handle the large groups of players, and it seems ESO is the same.
Thankfully WHO had fun PvP scenarios to flee to when too many people where in the RvR lakes, which is something ESO is missing.0 -
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✭Ask a friend of yours from a opposing faction to suicide on a resource for you. AP trading is just a grey area after all ::):):):):]2 -
Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Tower_Of_Shame wrote: »/w Legendary Shay or Shillery for more info
#Sheym
Topic:
For magicka builds: You can also slot mutagen, and any aoe to tag as many people with damage and heals as you can
For stamina builds: Camo hunter + silver shards + focused aim with a gank build, on resources with ap buff. Can get juicy def ticks and ap / kill when you are solo. If you are not a nightblade, use invisibility pots to get out of sticky situations.
Overall: Learn where/how to leech the juicy defticks.
Thank me later.Edited by Master_Kas on March 13, 2016 1:07PMEU | PC0 -
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✭Did he just say his strongest attack is ambush?P.A.W.S. - Positively Against Wild Sasquatches - NO TO BIGFOOT!1 -
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✭LordTareq, find a good contested keep, whatever faction you are on, pick the keep that is most often defended. Go to the top of it, face a wall, find a spot you can jump into or some fascia a wall you can stand on and be partially obstructed by. Put a heavy weight on your "W" key or whatever your move forward key is, or use a program like auto-hot-key or your mouses macro editor to write a script to provide the game with some keyboard activity every few minutes.
Go to the gym, go to a movie, go out with the GF, then come back and see if you profited from D ticks. Keep the game running when you don't want to play doing this, and though it might not happen quickly or efficiently, you will get where you want to go with 0 effort.“Whatever.”
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Ghostbane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I can ride without rapids from one corner of the map to the other in less than 5 mins
u wot m8lol you clearly do not have a good sense of time.{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
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JDar✭✭✭✭✭Quit being a whiner. Get a quality gaming system. Step up and learn to fight again the real world. Everything you are complaining about is a deficiency in YOU, not something that others deserve to be blamed for.
How pathetic and entitled that you are posting here looking for the way to meet your goal when it is obvious what you need to do and you just do not want to do it.3 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why do PvE players feel so entitled to PvP skills?
Because they were told before the game came out that they can be any race, class and use it anyway you want and do whatever you want with it. But then they forgot they actually had to PvP to get other cool skills which requires hours of playing time. I don't cry because I don't have a certain monster helm or shoulder I just go and do the freaking dungeon and get it. lol I don't understand how PvEers can do the same content 1,000s of times and never PvP makes zero sense. Myself I enjoy all of it but once I've done it times upon times I get sick of it. At least in PvP things are unpredictable sometimes.
i dont understand how pvp'rs can take/retake the same keeps and kill the same players over and over,then get on your horse and ride for 10mins after u die and repeat all over again.
As I said things can be unpredictable at times, nor is every campaign the same and you can always find a way to PvP in a different way. So killing the same mobs and bosses over and over again?????? So your point was? And who rides for 10mins? lol upgrade your mount already, it's 2016.
pve can be unpredictable too,not everyone runs the same content in the same situation,with the same people. WB spam will not work on bosses,sorry. hiding in corner sniping wont work on a boss,sorry. your on XBOX,just wait til you get the rapids nerf patch my friend,youll be riding 20mins.
lol you do know you can fast travel depending on what the map looks like? I can ride without rapids (never on my bar unless for a reason other than riding my mount) from one corner of the map to the other in less than 5 mins lol you clearly do not have a good sense of time. But anyways you want Proxy and Vigor well they have given it to you on a GOLDEN platter. So easy to get them now. Way too easy. EasyModeESO
LOL what hacks you running to pull off this feat? your not listening to what i said, the skill is bugging out in this patch and doesnt work consistently.you get hung up on terrain that shouldnt hinder you, on an OPEN ROAD.as far as the golden platter,they made it easier not free, dont be jealous.0 -
r.jan_emailb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Just afk in a keep that has some action close by, made 10k AP during dinner.Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
playing for eXile
I'm done, CU somewhere else.0 -
JDar✭✭✭✭✭I regret being so hard on OP but here in the US the "everybody deserves a trophy" kind of attitude usually gets met with disapproval.1
