Maelstrom Arena - Change it to Duo

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Let's face, a solo arena in an MMO with lack of end game content that hasn't already been done a hundred times shouldn't be a thing.

Majority of people I know absolutely HATE the arena just for the simple fact that it takes away from their ability to play with their friends/guildmates. Now I know people will say, "Well they don't have to do the arena." This may be true... but let's face it... if you want a chance a gold weekly rewards and Maelstrom weapons you are going to run the content. This is especially true for those players who would like to min/max their builds. Sure maybe a percent of a percent of players enjoy the arena as it is now... but the majority do not for various reason I.E. Too Hard, Mechanics Buggy, Too Long... etc.

What made Dragonstar Arena great was the fact you had a group of people you could go in with (friends/guildmates/pugs even) and do it while having a good time and for some of the more serious gamers actively competing for a score. It kept the content going long after it was released. Even now people still run it, though not to the degree it was before.

Now if @zos would make this a duo arena, it would alleviate some of the issues it had for many player to do the content and invite others to do it more. It would bring back the competitiveness in players as they would want themselves and their friends to be at the top.

If they made it a duo arena it would most likely be okay if ZOS added more mobs, more mechanics, or just generally made it harder. The burden would be shared between 2 players and the content wouldn't feel so isolated. I know personally I run it for the weapons and loot... and it's complete buzz kill for me just because I might be sitting in a TS listening to other people doing other content and having a much better time or looking guild chat and seeing the same thing.

What do you guys think? Should Maelstrom Arena be made to be a 2 person arena (with add mechs/mobs/increased difficulty) or should it remain solo content?
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  • JayhawK
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    just leave it as a solo arena. ZOS would have to go back and basically redo the entire thing to make it challenging for 2 people and i would rather have them focus their time on other things
    Edited by JayhawK on March 12, 2016 11:06PM
  • DannyLV702
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    There's already tons of group content, this arena is for us loners with no friends. I say leave it alone so I can have something to do other than pvp
  • Ethromelb14_ESO
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    Nah, I like it as a solo endeavor. More bragging rights for the players that find it to be a challenge, once they beat it.
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  • rokrdt05
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    Nah, I like it as a solo endeavor. More bragging rights for the players that find it to be a challenge, once they beat it.

    Let's be honest, clearing it at this point with the updated CP changes is not something to be extremely excited about... now getting that No Death Run on the other had... :p
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  • rokrdt05
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    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    There's already tons of group content, this arena is for us loners with no friends. I say leave it alone so I can have something to do other than pvp

    Yes there is a lot of group content. Content that has existed in game for awhile now and most do not present a challenge. Only new content with this patch came the new trial.
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    I'm actually having a lot of fun with vMSA now that it has a save feature. Actually got a sharpened 2H axe on my second run :D If they would do a duo vMSA they would probably just double the hp and damage values of the npc's lol
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  • Rex-Umbra
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    Leave it the way it is but up all craglorn content to v16
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  • magnusthorek
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    I'd like it to be doable with two players for the sole fact that due health issues, that slowly destroys my body, I don't have physical conditions to complete it.

    I'd love to have the achievement and maybe the weapon, but in my current condition I Just can't.
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  • rokrdt05
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    Leave it the way it is but up all craglorn content to v16

    Considering this is an end game zone I would agree with that (not the arena part) to up Craglorn... maybe update some item sets. A lot of those dungeons in Craglorn are really fun just not worth doing really.
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  • Sunah
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    I completely agree with OP.. vMA would be so much better if it had a duo option. Keep leaderboards as solo but have a duo setting with a slightly increased difficulty for drops.
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    rokrdt05 wrote: »
    Let's face, a solo arena in an MMO with lack of end game content that hasn't already been done a hundred times shouldn't be a thing.

    Majority of people I know absolutely HATE the arena just for the simple fact that it takes away from their ability to play with their friends/guildmates. Now I know people will say, "Well they don't have to do the arena." This may be true... but let's face it... if you want a chance a gold weekly rewards and Maelstrom weapons you are going to run the content. This is especially true for those players who would like to min/max their builds. Sure maybe a percent of a percent of players enjoy the arena as it is now... but the majority do not for various reason I.E. Too Hard, Mechanics Buggy, Too Long... etc.

    What made Dragonstar Arena great was the fact you had a group of people you could go in with (friends/guildmates/pugs even) and do it while having a good time and for some of the more serious gamers actively competing for a score. It kept the content going long after it was released. Even now people still run it, though not to the degree it was before.

    Now if @zos would make this a duo arena, it would alleviate some of the issues it had for many player to do the content and invite others to do it more. It would bring back the competitiveness in players as they would want themselves and their friends to be at the top.

    If they made it a duo arena it would most likely be okay if ZOS added more mobs, more mechanics, or just generally made it harder. The burden would be shared between 2 players and the content wouldn't feel so isolated. I know personally I run it for the weapons and loot... and it's complete buzz kill for me just because I might be sitting in a TS listening to other people doing other content and having a much better time or looking guild chat and seeing the same thing.

    What do you guys think? Should Maelstrom Arena be made to be a 2 person arena (with add mechs/mobs/increased difficulty) or should it remain solo content?

    Best suggestion made regarding changing the arena to date! This would make it not something I dread doing every week, but something I would greatly enjoy.
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    I like the changes to Maelstrom Arena, I think it's fine as a solo, it would feel too crowded as a duo arena.

    But I do believe ZOS should put in some effort for a duo arena in Dark Brotherhood. @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Finn a duo arean would be amazing.
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    People that cry over malestrom are people that can't complete it. Doesn't need changing and doesn't need someone else to hold your hand all the way through it. It's 1.5hrs per week is all that's required for top end stuff. 2 man regular dsa. Can be done. It's challenging and no need for crying. Footman set still sells stupidly well and master weapons are great for the final grinds of new toons. Job done.
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  • rokrdt05
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    People that cry over malestrom are people that can't complete it. Doesn't need changing and doesn't need someone else to hold your hand all the way through it. It's 1.5hrs per week is all that's required for top end stuff. 2 man regular dsa. Can be done. It's challenging and no need for crying. Footman set still sells stupidly well and master weapons are great for the final grinds of new toons. Job done.

    LOL.

    You assume much. I offered my thoughts and nothing more.

    1.5hrs? I'm sorry it takes you that long to complete it. I also run 6 Characters through each week making it a total of 6 hours on average doing the content. So no sir, this wasn't a cry post about arena, it was merely a suggestion on what I and other liked minded players feel would make the content more enjoyable.
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  • rokrdt05
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    I like the changes to Maelstrom Arena, I think it's fine as a solo, it would feel too crowded as a duo arena.

    But I do believe ZOS should put in some effort for a duo arena in Dark Brotherhood. @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_Finn a duo arean would be amazing.

    I wouldn't mind that.
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  • Mojmir
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    even better,allow dueling in the arena
  • Ariisen
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    TBH I quite like Maelstrom, it needs some tuning but it's overall really challenging and well done.

    A duo arena would be good but with the current meta the leaderboards will be dominated by Sorc\Sorc teamS shield stacking and overload spamming... Unless you put archers with shieldbreaker in the arena lol.

    A three man arena with really hard hitting bosses that require some kind of tank, phases that need heals and some group DPS check would be a better solution. Add some mechanics here and there and it will be really fun without forcing people to "respec DPS".
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    L2P.
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    People that cry over malestrom are people that can't complete it. Doesn't need changing and doesn't need someone else to hold your hand all the way through it. It's 1.5hrs per week is all that's required for top end stuff. 2 man regular dsa. Can be done. It's challenging and no need for crying. Footman set still sells stupidly well and master weapons are great for the final grinds of new toons. Job done.

    Lol shows how much you know...OP is in top 20 on the leaderboards with like 5 toons ...rekt
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Ariisen wrote: »
    TBH I quite like Maelstrom, it needs some tuning but it's overall really challenging and well done.

    A duo arena would be good but with the current meta the leaderboards will be dominated by Sorc\Sorc teamS shield stacking and overload spamming... Unless you put archers with shieldbreaker in the arena lol.

    A three man arena with really hard hitting bosses that require some kind of tank, phases that need heals and some group DPS check would be a better solution. Add some mechanics here and there and it will be really fun without forcing people to "respec DPS".

    The OP 's point is not about leaderboards or it being too hard...it's about it being fun.. I get 3 toons on the leaderboards each week and I hate every minute of it...it isn't fun because I am alone in there when the reason I am playing an MMO and not a single player game is to play with people. Soon as I get my weapons I won't be running it...
  • rokrdt05
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    Ariisen wrote: »
    TBH I quite like Maelstrom, it needs some tuning but it's overall really challenging and well done.

    A duo arena would be good but with the current meta the leaderboards will be dominated by Sorc\Sorc teamS shield stacking and overload spamming... Unless you put archers with shieldbreaker in the arena lol.

    A three man arena with really hard hitting bosses that require some kind of tank, phases that need heals and some group DPS check would be a better solution. Add some mechanics here and there and it will be really fun without forcing people to "respec DPS".

    At this point you'd be asking for another arena similar to DSA... not that I'm opposed lol.
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  • Kammakazi
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    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    There's already tons of group content, this arena is for us loners with no friends. I say leave it alone so I can have something to do other than pvp

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  • Ariisen
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    rokrdt05 wrote: »
    Ariisen wrote: »
    TBH I quite like Maelstrom, it needs some tuning but it's overall really challenging and well done.

    A duo arena would be good but with the current meta the leaderboards will be dominated by Sorc\Sorc teamS shield stacking and overload spamming... Unless you put archers with shieldbreaker in the arena lol.

    A three man arena with really hard hitting bosses that require some kind of tank, phases that need heals and some group DPS check would be a better solution. Add some mechanics here and there and it will be really fun without forcing people to "respec DPS".

    At this point you'd be asking for another arena similar to DSA... not that I'm opposed lol.

    Yes, a two man arena means going there with a DPS\DPS setup, because if you put enemies that hit too hard and you need a tank you'll also need a healer, and nobody will be killing stuff.

    At this point in the lifespan of the game tanking is dying, every tank is doing a respec to DPS because of Maelstrom and PvP cause we have a bad case of lack of 4-man group content worth running.

    Some tank will go back to it for MoL, but then? If the next DLC brings a 2 man arena, a duelling arena or something of that sort without adding 4 man dungeons... lol, we will literally have no tanks in the whole Tamriel.

    I'm not opposed to having a 2 man arena, it's interesting, just not now. It's not the time IMHO.
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  • Humatiel
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    As long as the duo version did not include the Mael weapons or skins then I have no problems with them implementing it.
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  • mb10
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    lol.
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    If you dont like MSA...

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    Edited by mb10 on March 13, 2016 1:30AM
  • Bofrari
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    mb10 wrote: »
    If you dont like MSA...

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    As the poster has stated DEAL WITH IT.
    Edited by Bofrari on March 13, 2016 1:39AM
  • rokrdt05
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    Please keep the comments constructive. I've asked for thoughts on the topic and nothing more... assuming that I have or cannot complete the content is outside the scope of this topic. I have not stated that Arena was hard or that I disliked it. The topic is on how I feel it could be more enjoyable for myself and many others.
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  • DannyLV702
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    There's already tons of group content, this arena is for us loners with no friends. I say leave it alone so I can have something to do other than pvp

    I saw you in a zerg taking a keep
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    I also recall running away from yours while I was on my own...
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