My Stam DK is hating life

Rva_Kun · March 2016

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Rva_Kun wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Rva_Kun wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue. Or stam players that are so blind by the class playstyle, that refuse to accept simple math and truth.

"Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue." <- this.

I have 3 DK's, I do pve and pvp as both stamina and magicka, I will always be biased towards magicka DK because I hate stam but the stam DK is very viable and I'm sorry if the people don't want to hear it but if you have trouble with stam as a DK it is a L2P issue, plain and simple.

I don't play DK stam lol I play sorc mag. I'm just laughing hard asf at this thread.

Plays a mag sorc and believes stam DK is op... Lol

I don't believe they're OP lolol reading hard.

D0ntevenL1ft · March 2016

Rva_Kun wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Rva_Kun wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Rva_Kun wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue. Or stam players that are so blind by the class playstyle, that refuse to accept simple math and truth.

"Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue." <- this.

I have 3 DK's, I do pve and pvp as both stamina and magicka, I will always be biased towards magicka DK because I hate stam but the stam DK is very viable and I'm sorry if the people don't want to hear it but if you have trouble with stam as a DK it is a L2P issue, plain and simple.

I don't play DK stam lol I play sorc mag. I'm just laughing hard asf at this thread.

Plays a mag sorc and believes stam DK is op... Lol

I don't believe they're OP lolol reading hard.

Reading hard ? Wot

Rva_Kun · March 2016

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Rva_Kun wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Rva_Kun wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Rva_Kun wrote: »

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue. Or stam players that are so blind by the class playstyle, that refuse to accept simple math and truth.

"Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue." <- this.

I have 3 DK's, I do pve and pvp as both stamina and magicka, I will always be biased towards magicka DK because I hate stam but the stam DK is very viable and I'm sorry if the people don't want to hear it but if you have trouble with stam as a DK it is a L2P issue, plain and simple.

I don't play DK stam lol I play sorc mag. I'm just laughing hard asf at this thread.

Plays a mag sorc and believes stam DK is op... Lol

I don't believe they're OP lolol reading hard.

Reading hard ? Wot

Ghost-Shot · March 2016

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

By all means, Please enlighten us with your wisdom. Let us see the math, behind your claims. I would love to see how you can compare stam healing and living. Compare to magic builds. Not just DK.

This should be good. Hold on, I need to get popcorn.

1. You will mitigate more damage in general due to higher armor values.
2. Shuffle provides a lot of tankyness that is very hard to maintain on magicka builds.
3. If you always keep vigor up and don't be too spammy with your rally so you always have that burst heal when you need it can be one of the strongest heals in the game.
4. Stamina builds, specifically DK since this is a DK thread, still are capable of crazy damage due to really nice medium armor passives(12% weapon damage) and the DK having Dragon Leap that scales off physical damage CP.
5. Stampede>Wrecking Blow>Take Flight>Executioner = GGWP
6. Invasion>Unstable Flame>Light Attack>Ransack>Bash>Executioner = GGWP

Duiwel · March 2016

I don't wanna hijack the thread but I have a relevant thread I am about to open & would love fellow VR16 DK advice

rager82b14_ESO · March 2016

Ok armor really? Do you really want to bring armor values in this game? When shields are the most spammable thing you can have, and not only that, but it pretty much makes pve easy mode. Pvp some changes was made and will take time, but armor value? Really?

2. Sorcs magic right now are the most tanky build in the game. It is because of how the resource system is set up with stam regen vs magic regen.

3. Strongest heals in the game? Do you mean the new sorc pet heals that are crazy right now and aoe?

4. Not just about dk it is a issue with all stam vs magic.

5. Stampede is broken so is crit charge. Wrecking blow really? The only move stam has going for it? by all means sure lets add that. So stam has one decent move compare to how many magic has?

6. and all that when you could have done more with magic.

Ghost-Shot · March 2016

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

Ok armor really? Do you really want to bring armor values in this game? When shields are the most spammable thing you can have, and not only that, but it pretty much makes pve easy mode. Pvp some changes was made and will take time, but armor value? Really?

2. Sorcs magic right now are the most tanky build in the game. It is because of how the resource system is set up with stam regen vs magic regen.

3. Strongest heals in the game? Do you mean the new sorc pet heals that are crazy right now and aoe?

4. Not just about dk it is a issue with all stam vs magic.

5. Stampede is broken so is crit charge. Wrecking blow really? The only move stam has going for it? by all means sure lets add that. So stam has one decent move compare to how many magic has?

6. and all that when you could have done more with magic.

I never said thats what makes them good its just one advantage you have with stam, its everything added together that makes a DK strong, take advice or don't, its really up to you if you want to get good or not. I gave you a couple of burst rotations that are really strong for a stam DK, both rotations are capable of burst damage the is NOT possible as a magicka DK.

BalgusFlinn · March 2016

Stam dk was stronger than magicka for 6 monthes. Magicka dk finally gets much needed buff, and some1 gets on the forums to boo-hoo about how magicka is stronger than me now.
Green Dragon Blood needs a buff for pvp. Whip needs a stam morph. And stam dk is gtg.

Rally, vigor, and a speed+health pot. Can work wonders sometimes.

Or do what i did, just quit playing your dk.

PriorityBalle · March 2016

Is this thread for real x'D

Stam DK needing buffs xDDDDD

johu31 · March 2016

1/100 stam DKs can beat vMA. Good luck finding a dungeon group as a dps if your stam anything. Sorcs.. Looking for sorc dps!!.. Any sorcs wanna do the pledge?!!! Sorcs Sorcs sorcs.

leepalmer95 · March 2016

Stam builds aren't dead... people are over reacting so much.

Big wow theres a cp which reduces stam dmg... People have to split 167 cp into resistant, hardy and elemental defender.

People aren't running around with 25% reduced dmg, more like 10-15% depending on cp.

So now your 8k Sa are hitting for 6800.

Your 10k-12k Wb are hitting for 8500-10200 still.

Get a grip people.

gamerguy757 · March 2016

Put on 5Piece Willows for good recovery and rock 4 piece morkuldin for weapon damage. Utilize the DK's abilities as utility and weaving moves. Don't use them primarily.

Frawr · March 2016

Maybe due to cp but i am fine in pvp with stam dk.

Can't see the problem.

Dk is a dot sustain class. Don't cry about no stam dd ability.

Ilterendi · March 2016

Stam DK is the strongest Stam dps atm. Not sure what the complaints are about. Mine slays stuff like crazy. Maybe a l2p issue?

AverageJo3Gam3r · March 2016

Huh? Seriously? Stam DK has been one of the strongest classes in both PvP and PvE for months now. Mag DK gets some new toys and OP already starts QQing? Get real. Learn how to use rally+ingenious shield+vigor. Wait to pop rally until you have a big heal.

Tryxus · March 2016

I hate life too, that's why I try to escape with games like this one

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO · March 2016

Okay, well maybe I'm just *** at PvPing with my current Stam DK.

So instead of all you go-hard pros spouting on about L2P issues, how about offering some advice on how you do so well?

I'm running 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy

5 hundings,
1 blood spawn
shoulders is any random undaunted with +1k health

using bow on 1 bar and 2H on the other...probably going to switch to 1H/S because I'm honestly hating 2h, my WB is too unreliable and every time I land the first one...sure great damage...but if I land another 1 right after it it does maybe half the damage

Rva_Kun · March 2016

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

Okay, well maybe I'm just *** at PvPing with my current Stam DK.

So instead of all you go-hard pros spouting on about L2P issues, how about offering some advice on how you do so well?

I'm running 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy

5 hundings,
1 blood spawn
shoulders is any random undaunted with +1k health

using bow on 1 bar and 2H on the other...probably going to switch to 1H/S because I'm honestly hating 2h, my WB is too unreliable and every time I land the first one...sure great damage...but if I land another 1 right after it it does maybe half the damage

L2p issue.

leepalmer95 · March 2016

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

Okay, well maybe I'm just *** at PvPing with my current Stam DK.

So instead of all you go-hard pros spouting on about L2P issues, how about offering some advice on how you do so well?

I'm running 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy

5 hundings,
1 blood spawn
shoulders is any random undaunted with +1k health

using bow on 1 bar and 2H on the other...probably going to switch to 1H/S because I'm honestly hating 2h, my WB is too unreliable and every time I land the first one...sure great damage...but if I land another 1 right after it it does maybe half the damage

Either use kena or blood spawn as the shoulders.

Whats your hp at, you ccould go 2x night mother or something if you don't have kena/bloodspawn.

Whats your wb tooltip dmg?

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO · March 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

Okay, well maybe I'm just *** at PvPing with my current Stam DK.

So instead of all you go-hard pros spouting on about L2P issues, how about offering some advice on how you do so well?

I'm running 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy

5 hundings,
1 blood spawn
shoulders is any random undaunted with +1k health

using bow on 1 bar and 2H on the other...probably going to switch to 1H/S because I'm honestly hating 2h, my WB is too unreliable and every time I land the first one...sure great damage...but if I land another 1 right after it it does maybe half the damage

Either use kena or blood spawn as the shoulders.

Whats your hp at, you ccould go 2x night mother or something if you don't have kena/bloodspawn.

Whats your wb tooltip dmg?

I only have the blood spawn helm, hoping to kena shoulders. HP is at 24-25k, stams at 31k, weapon damage buffed in 3.3k (on 2h bar)

I'm also using 3 piece endurace, all stam and all + weapon damage.

Not sure about the last question; I wanna say single target dps is around 12-13k, but that would be PvE without any worries in comparison to pvp

leepalmer95 · March 2016

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

Okay, well maybe I'm just *** at PvPing with my current Stam DK.

So instead of all you go-hard pros spouting on about L2P issues, how about offering some advice on how you do so well?

I'm running 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy

5 hundings,
1 blood spawn
shoulders is any random undaunted with +1k health

using bow on 1 bar and 2H on the other...probably going to switch to 1H/S because I'm honestly hating 2h, my WB is too unreliable and every time I land the first one...sure great damage...but if I land another 1 right after it it does maybe half the damage

Either use kena or blood spawn as the shoulders.

Whats your hp at, you ccould go 2x night mother or something if you don't have kena/bloodspawn.

Whats your wb tooltip dmg?

I only have the blood spawn helm, hoping to kena shoulders. HP is at 24-25k, stams at 31k, weapon damage buffed in 3.3k (on 2h bar)

I'm also using 3 piece endurace, all stam and all + weapon damage.

Not sure about the last question; I wanna say single target dps is around 12-13k, but that would be PvE without any worries in comparison to pvp

I'm talking about what does your wb say it's tooltip is.

Also why aren't you using agility, 1.5k stamina (basically 150 wpn dmg) and 186 wpn dmg.

Your using the wpn dmg increase glyph on your 2h right?

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO · March 2016

I've also tried the above with 3 piece night mothers, 1 shoulder and 2 swords for dual wield but the damage just didn't seem to be that great for some reason. I'm also very hesitant to drop the blood spawn helm because my stam regen is terrible. It's at about 1550 right now and I don't know if thats low or good enough, but I seem to drop to zero stam really fast..maybe im blocking too much

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO · March 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

Okay, well maybe I'm just *** at PvPing with my current Stam DK.

So instead of all you go-hard pros spouting on about L2P issues, how about offering some advice on how you do so well?

I'm running 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy

5 hundings,
1 blood spawn
shoulders is any random undaunted with +1k health

using bow on 1 bar and 2H on the other...probably going to switch to 1H/S because I'm honestly hating 2h, my WB is too unreliable and every time I land the first one...sure great damage...but if I land another 1 right after it it does maybe half the damage

Either use kena or blood spawn as the shoulders.

Whats your hp at, you ccould go 2x night mother or something if you don't have kena/bloodspawn.

Whats your wb tooltip dmg?

I only have the blood spawn helm, hoping to kena shoulders. HP is at 24-25k, stams at 31k, weapon damage buffed in 3.3k (on 2h bar)

I'm also using 3 piece endurace, all stam and all + weapon damage.

Not sure about the last question; I wanna say single target dps is around 12-13k, but that would be PvE without any worries in comparison to pvp

I'm talking about what does your wb say it's tooltip is.

Also why aren't you using agility, 1.5k stamina (basically 150 wpn dmg) and 186 wpn dmg.

Your using the wpn dmg increase glyph on your 2h right?

I would ideally like the agility set but I can't afford the 300k+ gold it'll cost me to get them.

I haven't put the weapon dmg enchant on my 2h yet either. I do have those enchants on both my swords for the night mothers set though, so maybe ill have to switch to the dual wield for more damage and just practice with them

Xantaria · March 2016

Guess I should have a word here aswell:

L2P

Ok Done.

leepalmer95 · March 2016

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

Okay, well maybe I'm just *** at PvPing with my current Stam DK.

So instead of all you go-hard pros spouting on about L2P issues, how about offering some advice on how you do so well?

I'm running 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy

5 hundings,
1 blood spawn
shoulders is any random undaunted with +1k health

using bow on 1 bar and 2H on the other...probably going to switch to 1H/S because I'm honestly hating 2h, my WB is too unreliable and every time I land the first one...sure great damage...but if I land another 1 right after it it does maybe half the damage

Either use kena or blood spawn as the shoulders.

Whats your hp at, you ccould go 2x night mother or something if you don't have kena/bloodspawn.

Whats your wb tooltip dmg?

I only have the blood spawn helm, hoping to kena shoulders. HP is at 24-25k, stams at 31k, weapon damage buffed in 3.3k (on 2h bar)

I'm also using 3 piece endurace, all stam and all + weapon damage.

Not sure about the last question; I wanna say single target dps is around 12-13k, but that would be PvE without any worries in comparison to pvp

I'm talking about what does your wb say it's tooltip is.

Also why aren't you using agility, 1.5k stamina (basically 150 wpn dmg) and 186 wpn dmg.

Your using the wpn dmg increase glyph on your 2h right?

I would ideally like the agility set but I can't afford the 300k+ gold it'll cost me to get them.

I haven't put the weapon dmg enchant on my 2h yet either. I do have those enchants on both my swords for the night mothers set though, so maybe ill have to switch to the dual wield for more damage and just practice with them

Dw is terrible for a stam dk. It's basically used to steel tornado.

Hmm what race are you?

CyrusArya · March 2016

In regards to PvP magicka is without a doubt better this patch if were considering match ups 1v1, pretty much across the board. But open world stamina is still very good. Stam DK is still a very tanky and resiliant build, and while leap isn't quite as strong as it was last patch, it still sets up some very strong combos. Also, there's no doubt that Stam DK has better mobility options for open world vs magicka. Stam dk is relatively weaker than last patch, but then again it was one of the strongest builds last patch too. It's not dead and I think it's still a very strong playstyle.

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO · March 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

Okay, well maybe I'm just *** at PvPing with my current Stam DK.

So instead of all you go-hard pros spouting on about L2P issues, how about offering some advice on how you do so well?

I'm running 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy

5 hundings,
1 blood spawn
shoulders is any random undaunted with +1k health

using bow on 1 bar and 2H on the other...probably going to switch to 1H/S because I'm honestly hating 2h, my WB is too unreliable and every time I land the first one...sure great damage...but if I land another 1 right after it it does maybe half the damage

Either use kena or blood spawn as the shoulders.

Whats your hp at, you ccould go 2x night mother or something if you don't have kena/bloodspawn.

Whats your wb tooltip dmg?

I only have the blood spawn helm, hoping to kena shoulders. HP is at 24-25k, stams at 31k, weapon damage buffed in 3.3k (on 2h bar)

I'm also using 3 piece endurace, all stam and all + weapon damage.

Not sure about the last question; I wanna say single target dps is around 12-13k, but that would be PvE without any worries in comparison to pvp

I'm talking about what does your wb say it's tooltip is.

Also why aren't you using agility, 1.5k stamina (basically 150 wpn dmg) and 186 wpn dmg.

Your using the wpn dmg increase glyph on your 2h right?

I would ideally like the agility set but I can't afford the 300k+ gold it'll cost me to get them.

I haven't put the weapon dmg enchant on my 2h yet either. I do have those enchants on both my swords for the night mothers set though, so maybe ill have to switch to the dual wield for more damage and just practice with them

Dw is terrible for a stam dk. It's basically used to steel tornado.

Hmm what race are you?

I figured that. I hate DW too lol. I am not having much success with 2h, 1h/S seems to offer more.

I'm a dark elf

Ilterendi · March 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

Okay, well maybe I'm just *** at PvPing with my current Stam DK.

So instead of all you go-hard pros spouting on about L2P issues, how about offering some advice on how you do so well?

I'm running 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy

5 hundings,
1 blood spawn
shoulders is any random undaunted with +1k health

using bow on 1 bar and 2H on the other...probably going to switch to 1H/S because I'm honestly hating 2h, my WB is too unreliable and every time I land the first one...sure great damage...but if I land another 1 right after it it does maybe half the damage

Either use kena or blood spawn as the shoulders.

Whats your hp at, you ccould go 2x night mother or something if you don't have kena/bloodspawn.

Whats your wb tooltip dmg?

I only have the blood spawn helm, hoping to kena shoulders. HP is at 24-25k, stams at 31k, weapon damage buffed in 3.3k (on 2h bar)

I'm also using 3 piece endurace, all stam and all + weapon damage.

Not sure about the last question; I wanna say single target dps is around 12-13k, but that would be PvE without any worries in comparison to pvp

I'm talking about what does your wb say it's tooltip is.

Also why aren't you using agility, 1.5k stamina (basically 150 wpn dmg) and 186 wpn dmg.

Your using the wpn dmg increase glyph on your 2h right?

I would ideally like the agility set but I can't afford the 300k+ gold it'll cost me to get them.

I haven't put the weapon dmg enchant on my 2h yet either. I do have those enchants on both my swords for the night mothers set though, so maybe ill have to switch to the dual wield for more damage and just practice with them

Dw is terrible for a stam dk. It's basically used to steel tornado.

Hmm what race are you?

That's incorrect. Sure Rapid Strikes leaves a little to be desired, but with the changes to Thuamaturge and using a maelstrom axe+maelstrom dagger it's the best Stam DK setup. For PvE, at least. For PvP I assume the same, but not sure.

leepalmer95 · March 2016

Ilterendi wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »

Okay, well maybe I'm just *** at PvPing with my current Stam DK.

So instead of all you go-hard pros spouting on about L2P issues, how about offering some advice on how you do so well?

I'm running 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy

5 hundings,
1 blood spawn
shoulders is any random undaunted with +1k health

using bow on 1 bar and 2H on the other...probably going to switch to 1H/S because I'm honestly hating 2h, my WB is too unreliable and every time I land the first one...sure great damage...but if I land another 1 right after it it does maybe half the damage

Either use kena or blood spawn as the shoulders.

Whats your hp at, you ccould go 2x night mother or something if you don't have kena/bloodspawn.

Whats your wb tooltip dmg?

I only have the blood spawn helm, hoping to kena shoulders. HP is at 24-25k, stams at 31k, weapon damage buffed in 3.3k (on 2h bar)

I'm also using 3 piece endurace, all stam and all + weapon damage.

Not sure about the last question; I wanna say single target dps is around 12-13k, but that would be PvE without any worries in comparison to pvp

I'm talking about what does your wb say it's tooltip is.

Also why aren't you using agility, 1.5k stamina (basically 150 wpn dmg) and 186 wpn dmg.

Your using the wpn dmg increase glyph on your 2h right?

I would ideally like the agility set but I can't afford the 300k+ gold it'll cost me to get them.

I haven't put the weapon dmg enchant on my 2h yet either. I do have those enchants on both my swords for the night mothers set though, so maybe ill have to switch to the dual wield for more damage and just practice with them

Dw is terrible for a stam dk. It's basically used to steel tornado.

Hmm what race are you?

That's incorrect. Sure Rapid Strikes leaves a little to be desired, but with the changes to Thuamaturge and using a maelstrom axe+maelstrom dagger it's the best Stam DK setup. For PvE, at least. For PvP I assume the same, but not sure.

If you manage to kill someone with rapid strikes in pvp you could of just light attacked them to death to get the same result, they are that bad.

Rva_Kun · March 2016