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Faction Jumping
HenryIvan
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Faction Jumping is an exploit to farm ap and nothing more, the ppl who jump factions have no loyalty to 1 faction and its not just individuals doing this it is also guilds jumping from 1 faction to another within the same campaign! It is clearly an exploit and those who are doing this should be banned! if you say there is nothing wrong with faction jumping then imagine we all jump to the faction with highest population 
but if we did that we would only have npc's to fight and I doubt ZOS intended on that so clearly this is an exploit and those who are exploiting should be banned!
Edited by HenryIvan on March 11, 2016 8:49PM but if we did that we would only have npc's to fight and I doubt ZOS intended on that so clearly this is an exploit and those who are exploiting should be banned! Faction Jumping 117 votes
Exploit
27%
32 votes
Not Exploit
72%
85 votes
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Humphie✭✭✭✭✭If I want to play with my friends from other factions, then I will do so. It is not cheating, it is not exploiting. I do this maybe every other week and that's it.
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ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Don't throw around terms like exploit to so easily. It can be used to make it possible to exploit certain things, but is neither nessecary to do so nor an exploit in itself.Edited by ToRelax on March 11, 2016 9:10PMDAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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Also, faction "loyalty" is an actual thing?
I have 3 main guilds and i play with guild mates in different campaigns/factions all the time. I also have 4 main characters, across all 3 factions.
I would hate not to be able to play with different people from different factions ...
Edited by SirAndy on March 11, 2016 9:12PM5 -
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Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not an exploit, not even an issue. Pop caps ensure that we're never going to run into the issue of "we all jump to the faction with highest population". People like switching it up, I don't really care, it can even be fun to see a familiar face on the other side of the blade.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Zyle✭✭✭✭✭If ZOS just removed restrictions on different faction characters being homed in the same campaign I would think it's not an exploit for sure.
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HenryIvan✭✭✭so its fine that 1 faction can outnumber another 5 to 1 and half of that larger faction is made up of ppl from the lower faction? makes stupid sense if that's the case then just get rid of factions all together why have them if your just going to jump to the most convenient faction at the moment?1
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zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not an exploit, not even an issue. Pop caps ensure that we're never going to run into the issue of "we all jump to the faction with highest population". People like switching it up, I don't really care, it can even be fun to see a familiar face on the other side of the blade.
It's definitely not an exploit, but population caps are not the answer. Balanced populations do no equal competitive balance. Just as EP had far more organized players this time last year, DC does now. It's bad for the game.
Many remaining PVP enthusiasts have well-developed characters on 2 or 3 factions and play whichever one gives them the easiest path to success. It's lame, but this game has absolutely no competitive balance mechanisms.0 -
Zyle✭✭✭✭✭so its fine that 1 faction can outnumber another 5 to 1 and half of that larger faction is made up of ppl from the lower faction? makes stupid sense if that's the case then just get rid of factions all together why have them if your just going to jump to the most convenient faction at the moment?
That happens irregardless of people jumping to other sides.
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HenryIvan✭✭✭its whatever the poll just proves my point so does the replies faction jumpers care only for themselves and nothing for the faction they chose to play for to begin with and this poll will show you just how many ppl support faction jumping and that will prove it is a problem that needs dealt with too many ppl are doing it now when it was only a dozen or so per campaign it wasn't a problem but now its large grps of ppl doing it which makes it a problem0
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Humphie✭✭✭✭✭Ok...I have to disagree. I do a lot for my faction. My guild plays map, no AP farming happening when we have a raid.
I set up siege and newly FCs. That is something I don't really do when playing with another faction. I usually just want to have fun then.
And how you want to keep people from doing that? It is free choice. There are a lot other things that suck in my opinion but that is not the right thread for it.0 -
HenryIvan✭✭✭Ok...I have to disagree. I do a lot for my faction. My guild plays map, no AP farming happening when we have a raid.
I set up siege and newly FCs. That is something I don't really do when playing with another faction. I usually just want to have fun then.
And how you want to keep people from doing that? It is free choice. There are a lot other things that suck in my opinion but that is not the right thread for it.
you say you do a lot for your faction but does it matter what you do for them if your just going to jump to another faction and Kill them and take keeps from them? kinda defeats the purpose of "I do a lot for my faction" lol
what I think you meant to say is 'I do a lot for my faction if it benefits me'Edited by HenryIvan on March 11, 2016 9:47PM2 -
GRxKnight✭✭✭✭✭I play strictly AD and don't have a problem with faction jumping...it's a non issue in my opinion...OP I guess got mad that his faction was winning with pop or score and now they aren't cause people like ti play with friends *shrugs*Member of Victorem, RÁGE ; Decibel Alumni (RIP)
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Humphie✭✭✭✭✭Ok...I have to disagree. I do a lot for my faction. My guild plays map, no AP farming happening when we have a raid.
I set up siege and newly FCs. That is something I don't really do when playing with another faction. I usually just want to have fun then.
And how you want to keep people from doing that? It is free choice. There are a lot other things that suck in my opinion but that is not the right thread for it.
you say you do a lot for your faction but does it matter what you do for them if your just going to jump to another faction and Kill them and take keeps from them? kinda defeats the purpose of "I do a lot for my faction" lol
what I think you meant to say is 'I do a lot for my faction if it benefits me'
No. Just no!
I honestly do not see the purpose of this thread besides salt.
You wanted opinions. You got them. I don't need to defend my opinion. I am out0 -
HenryIvan✭✭✭I play strictly AD and don't have a problem with faction jumping...it's a non issue in my opinion...OP I guess got mad that his faction was winning with pop or score and now they aren't cause people like ti play with friends *shrugs*
I am playing ep bwb and we are winning this campaign. I made this cause I think it is wrong to be able to jump to which ever faction is most convenient atm, example early this morning like every morning ep pop is dwn so ppl who usually play ep side went dc side took the whole map and scrolls claimed emp in fact their emp mains as an ep then later they will jump back to ep when ep pop is up. To me they are cowards who are afraid of a challenge so they jump to the faction with the higher pop atm. I have played all factions as well and it wasn't a problem till lately when whole guilds jump from 1 faction to another. For instance say your ad in bwb and the main pvp guild for that side decides to go to ep because ad pop is dwn and they take the entire map from ad then when ad pop is up they jump back to ad and run there regular pvp grps. How is this not a problem for ad as a faction they just got they butts kicked by there own ppl. I think too many ppl are thinking only of themselves and not of there faction as a whole. I'm not mad I just find it ridiculous that zos would allow ppl to do this, if you wanna grp with your friends in pvp have your friends join your faction or join theirs don't just jump to whatever faction is on top atm that is lame.Edited by HenryIvan on March 11, 2016 10:30PM2 -
GRxKnight✭✭✭✭✭I play strictly AD and don't have a problem with faction jumping...it's a non issue in my opinion...OP I guess got mad that his faction was winning with pop or score and now they aren't cause people like ti play with friends *shrugs*
I am playing ep bwb and we are winning campaign I made this cause I think it is wrong to be able to jump to which ever faction is most convenient atm example early this morning like every morning ep pop is dwn so ppl who usually play ep side went dc side took the whole map and scrolls claimed emp in fact their emp mains as an ep then later they will jump back to ep when ep pop is up to me they are cowards who are afraid of a challenge so they jump to the faction with the higher pop atm and I have played all faction as well and it wasn't a problem till lately when guilds whole guilds jump from 1 faction to another for instance say your ad in bwb and the main pvp guild for that side decides to go to ep because ad pop is dwn and they take the entire map from ad then when ad pop is up they jump back to ad and run there regular pvp grps how is this not a problem for ad as a faction they just got they butts kicked by there own ppl I think to many ppl are thinking only of themselves and not of there faction as a whole I'm not mad I just find it ridiculous that zos would allow ppl to do this if you wanna grp with your friends in pvp have your friends join your faction or join theirs don't just jump to whatever faction is on top atm that is lame
Can't understand your post since it lacks punctuation. There are things called periods, exclamation points, question marks, commas, etc etc...use themMember of Victorem, RÁGE ; Decibel Alumni (RIP)
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Bofrari✭✭✭I don't do it but its def not an exploit its a game option so you'll have to deal with it.0
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HenryIvan✭✭✭I play strictly AD and don't have a problem with faction jumping...it's a non issue in my opinion...OP I guess got mad that his faction was winning with pop or score and now they aren't cause people like ti play with friends *shrugs*
I am playing ep bwb and we are winning campaign I made this cause I think it is wrong to be able to jump to which ever faction is most convenient atm example early this morning like every morning ep pop is dwn so ppl who usually play ep side went dc side took the whole map and scrolls claimed emp in fact their emp mains as an ep then later they will jump back to ep when ep pop is up to me they are cowards who are afraid of a challenge so they jump to the faction with the higher pop atm and I have played all faction as well and it wasn't a problem till lately when guilds whole guilds jump from 1 faction to another for instance say your ad in bwb and the main pvp guild for that side decides to go to ep because ad pop is dwn and they take the entire map from ad then when ad pop is up they jump back to ad and run there regular pvp grps how is this not a problem for ad as a faction they just got they butts kicked by there own ppl I think to many ppl are thinking only of themselves and not of there faction as a whole I'm not mad I just find it ridiculous that zos would allow ppl to do this if you wanna grp with your friends in pvp have your friends join your faction or join theirs don't just jump to whatever faction is on top atm that is lame
Can't understand your post since it lacks punctuation. There are things called periods, exclamation points, question marks, commas, etc etc...use them
playing the game at the same time as I'm writing sry for the lack of grammer tho I am sure you understood what I wrote but just wanted to be a smart butt and comment on grammer cause you hate me :'( all because I do not support your faction jumping ways2 -
HenryIvan✭✭✭
don't take me the wrong way I am not mad or salty I want your opinions I want to hear ppl defend faction jumping but I will continue to oppose it because I do not agree with it that is my right as it is your right to defend it0 -
Caza99✭✭✭✭Umm if I want to play multiple factions I can and there is no rule against it.PC NA - @MercerESO0 -
RoamingRiverElk✭✭✭✭✭"Playing for your own faction", if that means strictly only having characters in one faction, and being serious about dominating campaigns totally and breaking the morale of the enemy by (nearly) any means necessary, actually results in poorer campaign quality in my opinion, and less good pvp for all sides, when the faction losing is just being farmed and people just leave the campaign to do something else that day, or leave the campaign to pvp on another campaign. And no, these issues are not easy to fix. In the history of this game, there have been many buff campaigns that have stayed that way for a long, long time. It may be easy to say, "then the bad faction should just L2P and bring more guilds into the campaign" etc etc. It does not work that way in reality. Sometimes it might, but you really just can't expect it to always work like that.
Also, it's interesting to see how simply some people seem to be viewing the game and the players. There are plenty of reasons for having characters in different factions, one of them being that you get more good pvp where *you* are the one who is outnumbered, by hopping on a character in another faction. There are plenty of people who think that simply dominating a campaign, winning the score, and keeping the enemy at their gates is not interesting, rewarding, or fun.Dalris Aalr - Magicka (Stamina) DK | Dalfish - Magicka Sorc | Dal Aalr - Magicka Warden | Dalrish - Mag/Stam NB | Irana Aalr - PvE Templar3 -
HenryIvan✭✭✭RoamingRiverElk wrote: »"Playing for your own faction", if that means strictly only having characters in one faction, and being serious about dominating campaigns totally and breaking the morale of the enemy by (nearly) any means necessary, actually results in poorer campaign quality in my opinion, and less good pvp for all sides, when the faction losing is just being farmed and people just leave the campaign to do something else that day, or leave the campaign to pvp on another campaign. And no, these issues are not easy to fix. In the history of this game, there have been many buff campaigns that have stayed that way for a long, long time. It may be easy to say, "then the bad faction should just L2P and bring more guilds into the campaign" etc etc. It does not work that way in reality. Sometimes it might, but you really just can't expect it to always work like that.
Also, it's interesting to see how simply some people seem to be viewing the game and the players. There are plenty of reasons for having characters in different factions, one of them being that you get more good pvp where *you* are the one who is outnumbered, by hopping on a character in another faction. There are plenty of people who think that simply dominating a campaign, winning the score, and keeping the enemy at their gates is not interesting, rewarding, or fun.
I didn't say all your charcters have to be on 1 faction I would just like zos to stop ppl from being able to grp with opposing factions in the same campaign. As for the "dominating a campaign, winning the score, and keeping the enemy at their gates" that is exactly what happens when guilds and ppl go from a low pop faction to a high pop faction they dominate there so called main faction till the pop rises then switch back over.0 -
qrichou✭✭✭i see always the same faces , in duels at frontline the same faces in team orange the same faces former emperor always together even when in diff teams standing in a keep defending red and yellow next to eachother so yes they are boosting and yes thats exploiting and frankly i dislike such players because they r no teamplayers and will let you down when they see ther buddy buddy no no where are dueling not boosting *friends* and they cheated to become emporer
not all but most
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HenryIvan✭✭✭i see always the same faces , in duels at frontline the same faces in team orange the same faces former emperor always together even when in diff teams standing in a keep defending red and yellow next to eachother so yes they are boosting and yes thats exploiting and frankly i dislike such players because they r no teamplayers and will let you down when they see ther buddy buddy no no where are dueling not boosting *friends* and they cheated to become emporer
not all but most
I like when I see ppl from my faction on another faction and they use about the same name so you know who it is at least they don't hide that there jumping faction lol but seriously can dev jump in on this and give there opinion on faction jumping?
It's kinda hard to get an unbiased opinion on this subject. I know that if those who jumped factions advertised it they wouldn't get the same love and support from their faction and that's why most don't announce they jump factions0 -
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I still play everyday but i have no faith in the community and the devs based on there constant incompetence to listen to us. Or make a slightly stable DLC that doesn't have everyone's game crashing but hey.Edited by [Deleted User] on March 12, 2016 1:00AM0 -
Vilestride✭✭✭✭✭The only enemy is who you have the most fun killing. Just go fight people, campaign score means nothing, faction allegiance means even less.3
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HenryIvan✭✭✭I can see were faction jumping could be useful in small scale pvp for dueling or dungeons and such but whole guilds and mass grps jumping factions I don't see any usefulness in that to me they just want to steam roll others without a challenge. I wish I could revise the poll and add more options and such but thank you all for your opinions0
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