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My Stam DK is hating life
For the love of god make stamina Dk for viable...I'm tired of magika being the go to for everything...especially with this last patch ZOS made magika DK way better than stam.
Why is it that DK's have no spammable DPS move in their skill tree? I shouldn't have to use weapon skill lines for spammable moves.
Also, why is there only 1 stam based heal in the entire game? It's not even that good of a heal...10k over 5 seconds or 15k buffed in 5 seconds. That's great if when I get low enough health that I can last that 5 seconds. Oh, why don't I use a damage shield to protect me when I get low? Sure igneous shields that will absorb a pathetic 3k damage on stam builds...but then you look at these f*cking sorcs who can get 20k damage shields is ridiculous.
Please ZOS, why do you hate stamina builds?
Why is it that DK's have no spammable DPS move in their skill tree? I shouldn't have to use weapon skill lines for spammable moves.
Also, why is there only 1 stam based heal in the entire game? It's not even that good of a heal...10k over 5 seconds or 15k buffed in 5 seconds. That's great if when I get low enough health that I can last that 5 seconds. Oh, why don't I use a damage shield to protect me when I get low? Sure igneous shields that will absorb a pathetic 3k damage on stam builds...but then you look at these f*cking sorcs who can get 20k damage shields is ridiculous.
Please ZOS, why do you hate stamina builds?
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siddique✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Tell me about it, I just got my stam DK gear and everything maxed and now its worse than before. Sigh."Knee-jerk reactionist."
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Rva_Kun✭✭✭lol "But then you look at these f*cking sorcs who can get 20k damage shields is ridiculous."
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Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I was in Abah's Landing doing quests last night with my Stam DK and we were fine.While I was nearly massacred by Wasps in one dungeon,I didnt die,and I even did in the boss,with a little help from another player. XD
Unless you are doing PvP Stams are ok still.0 -
sirrmattus✭✭✭✭✭Stam builds are ruined. not just DK.... [snip]
[edited for profanity masking]Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on March 15, 2016 4:40PMEbonheart Pact - North American Server
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jkemmery✭✭✭✭Try Unstable Flame and Burning Breath.
I really wish they would make a stamina morph of whip though.0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I dont get it. What is so wrong with Stam builds now? I keep saying that I dotn have problems with it.Do you all mean in PvP? This I can understand.0 -
Khaos_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭A STA DK whining about needing buff, that's a classic.
They are buffing STA for Dark Brotherhood. I can almost guarantee you that the STA builds will dominate at everything again when that happens.
Also, @Wrobel has made it pretty clear that class skills will primarily be for MAG builds and he does not intend to have a 1/1 MAG/STA morph.1 -
siddique✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well PvE is fine I guess. I just did Hzu Hakan solo for the first time, without even putting on Corrosive Armor."Knee-jerk reactionist."
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Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭1. Stamina has been arguably the best way to play anything that's not a sorc for almost a year, broken nirn in 1.6 and the lack of physical mitigation in cp and the OP steel tornado execute and range meant stam was the way to go.
2. There are 2 stamina heals in the game, rally from the 2 Handed tree and Vigor form Assault
3. Shields on a sorc are stupid sure but thats an entirely different issue, if you are struggling with dpsing down shields there is now a cp star that buffs your damage against shields and shield breaker is always an option.
Stamina DK is still very viable and out side of a group setting probably better than a magicka DK, you have access to one of the hardest hitting ultimates in the game and a magicka based ability that gives you major manding AND restores 5% of your stamina. For group play sure, magicka is strong right now, but don't act like ZOS has always favored magicka, The Elder Staves Online ended over a year ago.4 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭I dont get it. What is so wrong with Stam builds now? I keep saying that I dotn have problems with it.Do you all mean in PvP? This I can understand.
Man come on, when people talk about balance they clearly mean pvp... For real how could anybody struggle in pve with any build? Literally everything works, I think Dora the explorer had harder pve content.2 -
Fat_Cat45✭✭✭✭✭Stam DK got a buff with the new CP changes.
But in regards to pvp, all Stam builds perform a little worse. It isn't an issue exclusive to stam DKsEdited by Fat_Cat45 on March 11, 2016 6:48PM1 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Stam DK got a buff with the new CP changes.
But in regards to pvp, all Stam builds perform a little worse. It isn't an issue exclusive to stam DKs
Performing worse is one way to look at it but its really just more balanced, its like the transition from 1.5 to 1.6 for magicka DK's, we grew accustomed to about of year of being gods among men that even though the class was pretty well balanced in 1.6 it felt like the DK had been nerfed to being unplayable. Stam DK's in pvp just have to get used to not being OP. (To be clear I'm talking about 1.6 specifically with the magicka DK, not this post IC *** that we've dealt with, that is truly an unplayable spec)3 -
Xeven✭✭✭✭✭
✭taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »For the love of god make stamina Dk for viable...sirrmattus wrote: »Stam builds are ruined. not just DK.... FUUUUUCKK!K!!!
Hardy sucks don't it? Welcome to magic damage since 1.7, you poor things.
Gonna need to L2P now =(
Here is a tip. Axe is NOT viable. Dust off your Mauls, you're going to need them. Also, major fracture is a thing you're going to need to consider. You can't just brute force spam wrecking blow anymore, you're going to have to actually put some thought into what you're doing.
Edited by Xeven on March 11, 2016 7:20PM2 -
Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭taylorwilenskiub17_ESO wrote: »For the love of god make stamina Dk for viable...I'm tired of magika being the go to for everything...especially with this last patch ZOS made magika DK way better than stam.
Why is it that DK's have no spammable DPS move in their skill tree? I shouldn't have to use weapon skill lines for spammable moves.
Also, why is there only 1 stam based heal in the entire game? It's not even that good of a heal...10k over 5 seconds or 15k buffed in 5 seconds. That's great if when I get low enough health that I can last that 5 seconds. Oh, why don't I use a damage shield to protect me when I get low? Sure igneous shields that will absorb a pathetic 3k damage on stam builds...but then you look at these f*cking sorcs who can get 20k damage shields is ridiculous.
Please ZOS, why do you hate stamina builds?
One stamina based heal in the game? I think I know your problem.1 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Now that I think about it, isn't the werewolf heal stamina based? I'm not super familiar with the skill line so I can't be certain but if so that would make 3 stamina heals...0 -
rager82b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue. Or stam players that are so blind by the class playstyle, that refuse to accept simple math and truth.3 -
Rva_Kun✭✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue. Or stam players that are so blind by the class playstyle, that refuse to accept simple math and truth.
"Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue." <- this.Actions Speak Louder Than Words.
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Fat_Cat45✭✭✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »Now that I think about it, isn't the werewolf heal stamina based? I'm not super familiar with the skill line so I can't be certain but if so that would make 3 stamina heals...
Werewolf heal is magicka. But it scales very very well with magicka. At only around 10k magicka it can crit heal for around 9k in cyrodiil0 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue. Or stam players that are so blind by the class playstyle, that refuse to accept simple math and truth.
I have 3 DK's, I do pve and pvp as both stamina and magicka, I will always be biased towards magicka DK because I hate stam but the stam DK is very viable and I'm sorry if the people don't want to hear it but if you have trouble with stam as a DK it is a L2P issue, plain and simple.
Edited by Ghost-Shot on March 11, 2016 7:20PM2 -
Rva_Kun✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue. Or stam players that are so blind by the class playstyle, that refuse to accept simple math and truth.
"Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue." <- this.
I have 3 DK's, I do pve and pvp as both stamina and magicka, I will always be biased towards magicka DK because I hate stam but the stam DK is very viable and I'm sorry if the people don't want to hear it but if you have trouble with stam as a DK it is a L2P issue, plain and simple.
I don't play DK stam lol I play sorc mag. I'm just laughing hard asf at this thread.Actions Speak Louder Than Words.
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Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue. Or stam players that are so blind by the class playstyle, that refuse to accept simple math and truth.
"Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue." <- this.
I have 3 DK's, I do pve and pvp as both stamina and magicka, I will always be biased towards magicka DK because I hate stam but the stam DK is very viable and I'm sorry if the people don't want to hear it but if you have trouble with stam as a DK it is a L2P issue, plain and simple.
I don't play DK stam lol I play sorc mag. I'm just laughing hard asf at this thread.
Quoted the wrong post lol, fixed it.0 -
Rva_Kun✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue. Or stam players that are so blind by the class playstyle, that refuse to accept simple math and truth.
"Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue." <- this.
I have 3 DK's, I do pve and pvp as both stamina and magicka, I will always be biased towards magicka DK because I hate stam but the stam DK is very viable and I'm sorry if the people don't want to hear it but if you have trouble with stam as a DK it is a L2P issue, plain and simple.
I don't play DK stam lol I play sorc mag. I'm just laughing hard asf at this thread.
Quoted the wrong post lol, fixed it.
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jkemmery✭✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue. Or stam players that are so blind by the class playstyle, that refuse to accept simple math and truth.
I have 3 DK's, I do pve and pvp as both stamina and magicka, I will always be biased towards magicka DK because I hate stam but the stam DK is very viable and I'm sorry if the people don't want to hear it but if you have trouble with stam as a DK it is a L2P issue, plain and simple.
Care to provide OP with some tips on Stam DK play style?0 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »Now that I think about it, isn't the werewolf heal stamina based? I'm not super familiar with the skill line so I can't be certain but if so that would make 3 stamina heals...
Werewolf heal is magicka. But it scales very very well with magicka. At only around 10k magicka it can crit heal for around 9k in cyrodiil
Wow, that seems excessive lol.0 -
rager82b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭By all means, Please enlighten us with your wisdom. Let us see the math, behind your claims. I would love to see how you can compare stam healing and living. Compare to magic builds. Not just DK.
This should be good. Hold on, I need to get popcorn.1 -
Khaos_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭Stam DK got a buff with the new CP changes.
But in regards to pvp, all Stam builds perform a little worse. It isn't an issue exclusive to stam DKs
How do they perform a little worse? My STA Templar DPS is much better !
I swear, STA has dominated SOOOOO long that STA based players assume that STA should always dominate PvP. It's ridiculous.
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D0ntevenL1ft✭✭✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue. Or stam players that are so blind by the class playstyle, that refuse to accept simple math and truth.
"Ya, the gap is huge magic vs Stam..but magic players will keep saying it is a l2p issue." <- this.
I have 3 DK's, I do pve and pvp as both stamina and magicka, I will always be biased towards magicka DK because I hate stam but the stam DK is very viable and I'm sorry if the people don't want to hear it but if you have trouble with stam as a DK it is a L2P issue, plain and simple.
I don't play DK stam lol I play sorc mag. I'm just laughing hard asf at this thread.
Plays a mag sorc and believes stam DK is op... Lol1
