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Stamina regen!!!!
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Zerok✭✭✭✭
Is this true? I'm pretty sure I was regenerating stamina while in stealth yesterdayIn block no stamina regen, in sprint no stamina regen, in hide no stamina regen, ZOS pls completly remove stamina regen from game and completly remove stamina builds. THX this game no need stamina.
Zeerok (the sneaky ruffian) - LV50 Bosmer stamblade DPS (AD)
Gontrand de Bourbon (the greedy aristocrat) - LV50 Breton magsorc tank (DC)
Augustus Aquilarios (the imperial claimant) - LV50 Imperial stamDK PvP (EP)
Zeerokk (the AD zealot) - LV50 Altmer magblade PvP (AD)
Lianna Storm (the inferno maiden) - LV50 Dunmer magDK DPS (EP)
Fights-With-Khajiit (the gullible faithful) - LV5 Argonian templar (EP)
Miner'va (the skooma addict) - LV3 Khajiit sorcerer (AD) - chaotic neutral
Siggy Thorvaldsson (the charismatic baroness) - LV50 Nord stamwarden tank (DC)2 -
rotaugen454✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My Nightblade regens stamina if in stealth but standing still."Get off my lawn!"0 -
Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭In block no stamina regen, in sprint no stamina regen, in hide no stamina regen, ZOS pls completly remove stamina regen from game and completly remove stamina builds. THX this game no need stamina.
well sprinting is obvious you cant rest to gain stamina while sprinting that's a no brainer the blocking was an old change and you use stamina to be stealthy while sneaking to move so you don't regen unless you stop. this isn't a new thing in the game.2 -
AddictionX✭✭✭✭does the same apply to magic regen no magic regen cause it kinda sucks we get kicked in the balls1 -
LorDrek✭✭✭
Super!AddictionX wrote: »does the same apply to magic regen no magic regen cause it kinda sucks we get kicked in the balls
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
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Not completely true. We regen stam, at least I regen stam when crouched and not moving. At that, I do not lose much stam while keep moving crouched but then again I do wear mostly medium armor.
As someone who plays mostly stam builds including tanking these changes have not been an issue for me.
Stam regen while blocking, we should not be blocking constantly.
Stam regen while moving crouched, it's very cheap to move crouched if one has worked to reduce the cost. 4 points in legerdemain line is 40% cost reduction for moving crouched. Cheap, easy and fabulous cost reduction.1 -
Miszou✭✭✭✭✭
✭"I would like to be able to regain stamina, while performing activities that consume stamina".
lol, ok. 0 -
AfkNinja✭✭✭✭✭
✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »
Not completely true. We regen stam, at least I regen stam when crouched and not moving. At that, I do not lose much stam while keep moving crouched but then again I do wear mostly medium armor.
As someone who plays mostly stam builds including tanking these changes have not been an issue for me.
Stam regen while blocking, we should not be blocking constantly.
Stam regen while moving crouched, it's very cheap to move crouched if one has worked to reduce the cost. 4 points in legerdemain line is 40% cost reduction for moving crouched. Cheap, easy and fabulous cost reduction.
I think it's fair to point out that Magicka classes do not have that penalty though yes? Doesn't magic regen while blocking? Or stealthing? or sprinting? Why is only stamina penalized? Curious.6 -
rotaugen454✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My Stam Nightblade has put points into everything reducing the stamina cost of moving in stealth, and has the armor that lets him move at normal speed in stealth. He can move around in stealth for a very long time before he has to stop for 10 seconds and be back to full stamina."Get off my lawn!"3 -
Zyle✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »
Not completely true. We regen stam, at least I regen stam when crouched and not moving. At that, I do not lose much stam while keep moving crouched but then again I do wear mostly medium armor.
As someone who plays mostly stam builds including tanking these changes have not been an issue for me.
Stam regen while blocking, we should not be blocking constantly.
Stam regen while moving crouched, it's very cheap to move crouched if one has worked to reduce the cost. 4 points in legerdemain line is 40% cost reduction for moving crouched. Cheap, easy and fabulous cost reduction.
I think it's fair to point out that Magicka classes do not have that penalty though yes? Doesn't magic regen while blocking? Or stealthing? or sprinting? Why is only stamina penalized? Curious.
As frustrating as it may seem I definitely am for the 0 regen move.
Magicka users, at least in PvP, need to manage stamina for one reason: If that green bar hits 0 I can't break CC and the majority of the time that means death. So in that sense, it does affect magicka builds in every way it effects stamina builds, even more so as they don't stack that resource like a stamina class does.
If we were to have all that regen back, it would be that much harder to kill certain types of magicka builds simply because you aren't able to deplete their resources.
676 CP
Zyle - LVL50 Stamina Nightblade - Former Emp AS - VMA Clear (Flawless)
Joven - LVL50 Hybrid Templar
Adion - LVL50 Stamina DK
Radac - LVL50 Magicka Sorcerer
Vanikath - LVL50 Magicka DK1 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭And stamina users need the same exact resource for the same exact reasons, on top of the fact that their abilities drain said resource. There should be something to compensate for this.Edited by dimensional on March 10, 2016 7:44PM3 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You regen stamina while swimming, of all things.
Does. Not. Compute.signing off1 -
phreatophile✭✭✭✭✭
✭"I would like to be able to regain stamina, while performing activities that consume stamina".
lol, ok.
Actual question?
Do you ever miss out on a regen tic for magicka? Does your regen tic during a channel? Do you miss one when you instant cast.
That is your argument, that regen should stop while you draw from the pool.
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Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭...in hide no stamina regen, ...
Move in hide no stamina regen lol
Improved Sneak 2/2 With full Medium + Improved Hiding 4/4 + 3 pieces of Nightshade gear = 0 Sneak cost + very slow Stamina regen while sneaking and moving.
Would test adding in the Shade champion passive to see if I can get Stamina to regen more quickly, but too lazy."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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Anhedonie✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭In block no stamina regen, in sprint no stamina regen, in hide no stamina regen, ZOS pls completly remove stamina regen from game and completly remove stamina builds. THX this game no need stamina.
Are you from 2014 or what?Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.2 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AddictionX wrote: »does the same apply to magic regen no magic regen cause it kinda sucks we get kicked in the balls
No magicka regen is always at work.
Hence Magicka builds are unlimited resources while crying "it takes more skill". It's quite a paradox.
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Anhedonie✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »AddictionX wrote: »does the same apply to magic regen no magic regen cause it kinda sucks we get kicked in the balls
No magicka regen is always at work.
Hence Magicka builds are unlimited resources while crying "it takes more skill". It's quite a paradox.
Except for Mist Form. Maybe some other abilities, but can't recall anything.Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.0 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »AddictionX wrote: »does the same apply to magic regen no magic regen cause it kinda sucks we get kicked in the balls
No magicka regen is always at work.
Hence Magicka builds are unlimited resources while crying "it takes more skill". It's quite a paradox.
Except for Mist Form. Maybe some other abilities, but can't recall anything.
True.
But to be honest the last time I saw someone use mist form I was like... what was that? I'm a vampire btw.0 -
siddique✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have noticed this change. I would remain at 100% stamina while sneaking and moving. Because I would regen faster than I would use while moving in stealth mode. However, since TG, this has changed. Now I keep losing stamina while I am moving in stealth and only regen when I stop moving."Knee-jerk reactionist."
Lost Depths, 2015-2022.0 -
AverageJo3Gam3r✭✭✭✭✭dimensional wrote: »
Umm...yeah they do. They use stamina too, to sprint, dodge roll and break CC. A magicka build has less stamina to do these things and use magicka for their abilities. Stam builds also do these things but use a larger resource pool because their abilities also use stam. Seems legit.1 -
LorDrek✭✭✭...in hide no stamina regen, ...
Move in hide no stamina regen lol
Improved Sneak 2/2 With full Medium + Improved Hiding 4/4 + 3 pieces of Nightshade gear = 0 Sneak cost + very slow Stamina regen while sneaking and moving.
Would test adding in the Shade champion passive to see if I can get Stamina to regen more quickly, but too lazy.
This is good for you, not me, i am DPS no snake lame1 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »dimensional wrote: »
Umm...yeah they do. They use stamina too, to sprint, dodge roll and break CC. A magicka build has less stamina to do these things and use magicka for their abilities. Stam builds also do these things but use a larger resource pool because their abilities also use stam. Seems legit.
What you're missing here is that the magicka user does not have a penalty to his magicka pool for doing similar things like break free, dodge rolls, etc. So they have constant access to their main resource pool in larger amounts than a stamina user. There is no comparison.4 -
rfennell_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dimensional wrote: »I use mist form all the time
Not even a magicka character.
Well, it was used very often at one point.
But for the last half dozen of months I see it very rarely now, because of how they broke it. Used to be a great out of targeting ability... After that change most dropped it from usage.
Not pooping on the ability or your choice to use it... I still think it has it's benefits.
But... past mist forms... magicka regen is always regenning. Stamina regen has way too many ways for it to be halted now.0 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I agree the change they made to mist form sucks. I still like it to escape a hot AoE in tight spaces though.1 -
AfkNinja✭✭✭✭✭
✭AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »dimensional wrote: »
Umm...yeah they do. They use stamina too, to sprint, dodge roll and break CC. A magicka build has less stamina to do these things and use magicka for their abilities. Stam builds also do these things but use a larger resource pool because their abilities also use stam. Seems legit.
Except for the fact stamina can't regen while being used but magic can? Why isn't there a magic regen penalty while channeling for instance? Surely the act of USING your magic to create an effect would cause strain on your body like using a stamina skill? It's just weird imo
P.S. if Magic users don't have enough stamina that is by choice so they can max dps. Just like if a stam user doesn't have enough magic for their skills that's their own fault. I still think resources should not be adding to dmg, then we could actually diversify our stats without gimping ourselves.3