What guilds are in TrueFlame? [PC/NA]

NACtron · March 2016

I think it would be helpful to others to know what guilds are going to be running in TrueFlame this time around. Its fun for us to know who we will be fighting and who from our faction will be here

Props to the OP of the disccusion "what guilds are in Haderus"as it inspired to me to do this thread. Feel free to post what times you usually run as well!

As for my guild, Pact Militia, we plan on staying homed on TrueFlame and run in the evenings and often until late at night

Flake · March 2016

We are on TF now. Gogo Oceanic & the Vanzan zerg kekeke

PrinceFabious · March 2016

For sure CN and VE! The lag was real tonight

ataggs · March 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

For sure CN and VE! The lag was real tonight

Lol, that was it? Only 2 DC groups playing tonight? Noooo one else? Just saying VE and CN only stack on accident. Communication between the guilds is limited to zone chat hate.

Because you have brought this up in multiple threads, how do you know which guild(s) you claim are stacking? Do you even know how to tell CN From VE from BoD?

PhatGrimReaper · March 2016

ataggs wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Do you even know how to tell CN From VE from BoD?

VE are the ones getting *** done?

fastolfv_ESO · March 2016

I love the fact all i have to do is take my raid by a keep CN or VE is at and the rant posts pop up about both guilds stacking raids to make mega zergs, Gonna start running 2-3 raids everywhere now just for the hate posts directed at you guys lol

Durham · March 2016

LAAAAAAAG. We win

PrinceFabious · March 2016

ataggs wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

For sure CN and VE! The lag was real tonight

Lol, that was it? Only 2 DC groups playing tonight? Noooo one else? Just saying VE and CN only stack on accident. Communication between the guilds is limited to zone chat hate.

Because you have brought this up in multiple threads, how do you know which guild(s) you claim are stacking? Do you even know how to tell CN From VE from BoD?

I saw Asvaldar and Daniel stacking by eachother. Easily 40+ and easily lost my audio when I got closer to the zerg balls. Nothing wrong with zurging since its a AvA game. But dont deny that you dont need to out stack everyone else to get *** done. Like I said, its all good and I respect that

Zheg · March 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

For sure CN and VE! The lag was real tonight

Lol, that was it? Only 2 DC groups playing tonight? Noooo one else? Just saying VE and CN only stack on accident. Communication between the guilds is limited to zone chat hate.

Because you have brought this up in multiple threads, how do you know which guild(s) you claim are stacking? Do you even know how to tell CN From VE from BoD?

I saw Asvaldar and Daniel stacking by each other. Easily 40+ and easily lost my audio when I got closer to the zerg balls. Nothing wrong with zurging since its a AvA game. But dont deny that you dont need to out stack everyone else to get *** done. Like I said, its all good and I respect that

Wow. The salt is real. We ended up at the same keep as daniel maybe 2 or 3 times the entire night, mostly because a home keep was lit up and we both responded. Sane and reasonable people realize that most of the guilds are farming hardcore for VD sets right now and as such are intentionally choosing map targets they think they'll be the only ones at so they get more AP, but I guess sane and reasonable people aren't so much a thing when ego comes into play and they die.

I was linked an FTC of 102 targets when we had 23 in group open field with no pugs after we wiped a group and they burned through 3 forward camps, but the FTC link was over the course of 6 minutes because apparently it takes brain cells to realize you need to reset the counter for a fight if you actually want semi-accurate head counts. And then it was dropped to "you guys had 40 there". I mean, even "I" got hate tells last night, and all I can think of is people are dying, egos are bruised, and they thought that we'd be easy kills without barrier in the meta because that had been the go-to excuse for why they died last patch - "we would have wiped you, but you just cycle barriers and there's no way to beat that". For about half the night yesterday, we had two healers xD, GG. Is my OP breath of life hitting two people too many? If I switched to honor the dead would that finally 'kill the zerg'? Hmm?

The red and yellow stacks we fought last night were at normal obscene levels, the salt is only because you died. Stop trying to find excuses (particularly ones that aren't even accurate) for your death, and blame the stupidly high burst numbers people wanted so badly for the meta, or blame your positioning/engagement decisions.

Oh, and as someone hinted at above, you really should git good and learn peoples' names, harlocke's crew is one of the main blue presences on the map.

Crown · March 2016

@zheg even I got hate tells about causing lag last night - and I was solo most of the time! Rage are all playing BDO, and Victorem only runs a solid group on Friday/Saturday. Incidentally, latency does seem to go down when any group is stacked tightly now (even without casting) so it's in the interest of small group or solo players to stay at least a keep away from you guys.

PrinceFabious · March 2016

Zheg wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

For sure CN and VE! The lag was real tonight

Lol, that was it? Only 2 DC groups playing tonight? Noooo one else? Just saying VE and CN only stack on accident. Communication between the guilds is limited to zone chat hate.

Because you have brought this up in multiple threads, how do you know which guild(s) you claim are stacking? Do you even know how to tell CN From VE from BoD?

I saw Asvaldar and Daniel stacking by each other. Easily 40+ and easily lost my audio when I got closer to the zerg balls. Nothing wrong with zurging since its a AvA game. But dont deny that you dont need to out stack everyone else to get *** done. Like I said, its all good and I respect that

Wow. The salt is real. We ended up at the same keep as daniel maybe 2 or 3 times the entire night, mostly because a home keep was lit up and we both responded. Sane and reasonable people realize that most of the guilds are farming hardcore for VD sets right now and as such are intentionally choosing map targets they think they'll be the only ones at so they get more AP, but I guess sane and reasonable people aren't so much a thing when ego comes into play and they die.

I was linked an FTC of 102 targets when we had 23 in group open field with no pugs after we wiped a group and they burned through 3 forward camps, but the FTC link was over the course of 6 minutes because apparently it takes brain cells to realize you need to reset the counter for a fight if you actually want semi-accurate head counts. And then it was dropped to "you guys had 40 there". I mean, even "I" got hate tells last night, and all I can think of is people are dying, egos are bruised, and they thought that we'd be easy kills without barrier in the meta because that had been the go-to excuse for why they died last patch - "we would have wiped you, but you just cycle barriers and there's no way to beat that". For about half the night yesterday, we had two healers xD, GG. Is my OP breath of life hitting two people too many? If I switched to honor the dead would that finally 'kill the zerg'? Hmm?

The red and yellow stacks we fought last night were at normal obscene levels, the salt is only because you died. Stop trying to find excuses (particularly ones that aren't even accurate) for your death, and blame the stupidly high burst numbers people wanted so badly for the meta, or blame your positioning/engagement decisions.

Oh, and as someone hinted at above, you really should git good and learn peoples' names, harlocke's crew is one of the main blue presences on the map.

Im not trying to put you down or even being salty. If you have learned to read and stop being an egotistical ass clown that lies on the internet to deny 24 man ball groups, you would have noticed that I said I respect your method of zurging. If you need to do that to win, its cool man, its fair. Its not my playstyle. All Im saying is thar when I get close to your ball groups, my audio cuts out and Im back to lag.

And yes we all die sometimes. Just like how VE was wiped to EP pug groups. This post isnt about who dies to who. Its about still resorting to full raids while knowing it creates lag

_Chaos · March 2016

Yah guys go down to 16 man groups, those magical 8 extra players increase ping 250%, fact.

PrinceFabious · March 2016

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Yah guys go down to 16 man groups, those magical 8 extra players increase ping 250%, fact.

If the 2-3 raids that move to 16 players..thats about a full raid gone thats not balled up. Do the math lol

_Chaos · March 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Yah guys go down to 16 man groups, those magical 8 extra players increase ping 250%, fact.

If the 2-3 raids that move to 16 players..thats about a full raid gone thats not balled up. Do the math lol

And the other 24 players are just going to... disappear from the campaign?

edit: I'll just go ahead and answer my own rhetorical question.

No. They will make another ball group, because in this meta you're not taking keeps any other way, unless you bring the whole faction and no one wants to do that. This is a very unforgiving era for ESO PVP. There's two ways for map control right now; Zerging, and raiding(ball grouping as most plebs call it these days)

PrinceFabious · March 2016

Keyword "not balled up"

_Chaos · March 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Keyword "not balled up"

Edited post for you peaches. @PrinceFabious

PrinceFabious · March 2016

Thats nice. I dont really have an issue with the zerging except for the lag. Just dont deny that you guys were not stacking ball groups

GRxKnight · March 2016

We can't have a thread without accusing VE and CN of stacking their raids together or running over a full raid of themselves.

@Zheg if you guys want to ap farm you should consider running smaller groups though...i made roughly 60k an hour yesterday in a group of 8...never see that number with 24

Back on topic Victorem is over on Trueflame for AD

Zheg · March 2016

GRxKnight wrote: »

We can't have a thread without accusing VE and CN of stacking their raids together or running over a full raid of themselves.

@Zheg if you guys want to ap farm you should consider running smaller groups though...i made roughly 60k an hour yesterday in a group of 8...never see that number with 24

Back on topic Victorem is over on Trueflame for AD

Smallman AP is real, confirmed. I can get a ton of AP solo just healing randoms, or popping DFs and Jesus beam. We're also getting a feel for the meta. Theorycrafting on PTS is one thing, but my healer build has gone through significant changes over the past few days as we refine, particularly for raid scenarios. It's not optimal AP, but we kill so many that it still ends up being good AP.

Once VD is acquired though, who is going to care about AP?

Minnesinger · March 2016

I want to see more CN. Potato Cannon whispered me they are taking over the campaign. Still waiting to see them. They do have a nice group to fight.

GRxKnight · March 2016

Zheg wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

We can't have a thread without accusing VE and CN of stacking their raids together or running over a full raid of themselves.

@Zheg if you guys want to ap farm you should consider running smaller groups though...i made roughly 60k an hour yesterday in a group of 8...never see that number with 24

Back on topic Victorem is over on Trueflame for AD

Smallman AP is real, confirmed. I can get a ton of AP solo just healing randoms, or popping DFs and Jesus beam. We're also getting a feel for the meta. Theorycrafting on PTS is one thing, but my healer build has gone through significant changes over the past few days as we refine, particularly for raid scenarios. It's not optimal AP, but we kill so many that it still ends up being good AP.

Once VD is acquired though, who is going to care about AP?

I'll care about AP...take advantage of the pve'ers with millions of gold and sell them VD...they don't want to pvp for the set? They better pay up

PosternHouse · March 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

For sure CN and VE! The lag was real tonight

Lol, that was it? Only 2 DC groups playing tonight? Noooo one else? Just saying VE and CN only stack on accident. Communication between the guilds is limited to zone chat hate.

Because you have brought this up in multiple threads, how do you know which guild(s) you claim are stacking? Do you even know how to tell CN From VE from BoD?

I saw Asvaldar and Daniel stacking by each other. Easily 40+ and easily lost my audio when I got closer to the zerg balls. Nothing wrong with zurging since its a AvA game. But dont deny that you dont need to out stack everyone else to get *** done. Like I said, its all good and I respect that

Wow. The salt is real. We ended up at the same keep as daniel maybe 2 or 3 times the entire night, mostly because a home keep was lit up and we both responded. Sane and reasonable people realize that most of the guilds are farming hardcore for VD sets right now and as such are intentionally choosing map targets they think they'll be the only ones at so they get more AP, but I guess sane and reasonable people aren't so much a thing when ego comes into play and they die.

I was linked an FTC of 102 targets when we had 23 in group open field with no pugs after we wiped a group and they burned through 3 forward camps, but the FTC link was over the course of 6 minutes because apparently it takes brain cells to realize you need to reset the counter for a fight if you actually want semi-accurate head counts. And then it was dropped to "you guys had 40 there". I mean, even "I" got hate tells last night, and all I can think of is people are dying, egos are bruised, and they thought that we'd be easy kills without barrier in the meta because that had been the go-to excuse for why they died last patch - "we would have wiped you, but you just cycle barriers and there's no way to beat that". For about half the night yesterday, we had two healers xD, GG. Is my OP breath of life hitting two people too many? If I switched to honor the dead would that finally 'kill the zerg'? Hmm?

The red and yellow stacks we fought last night were at normal obscene levels, the salt is only because you died. Stop trying to find excuses (particularly ones that aren't even accurate) for your death, and blame the stupidly high burst numbers people wanted so badly for the meta, or blame your positioning/engagement decisions.

Oh, and as someone hinted at above, you really should git good and learn peoples' names, harlocke's crew is one of the main blue presences on the map.

Im not trying to put you down or even being salty. If you have learned to read and stop being an egotistical ass clown that lies on the internet to deny 24 man ball groups, you would have noticed that I said I respect your method of zurging. If you need to do that to win, its cool man, its fair. Its not my playstyle. All Im saying is thar when I get close to your ball groups, my audio cuts out and Im back to lag.

And yes we all die sometimes. Just like how VE was wiped to EP pug groups. This post isnt about who dies to who. Its about still resorting to full raids while knowing it creates lag

You're delusional. 40+ EP attack Aleswell and you have zero complaints about "zurging", but 40 DC defend their home keep and you're up in arms about stacking? Get a grip on reality for a second homie. Just because you're solo doesn't mean the other 39+ people next to you don't count. You are the zerg too.

Also, I have zero faith in your ability to determine who is who. I have never seen VE wipe to anything less than 70+ pugs, regardless if they are running 12-16, or 16-24. The last bastion of defense for fragile player egos is "you had 40" or "you stacked". You, and they, would be zero percent upset if they actually won.

#blameVE
#CNwipestopugs

Satiar · March 2016

PosternHouse wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

For sure CN and VE! The lag was real tonight

Lol, that was it? Only 2 DC groups playing tonight? Noooo one else? Just saying VE and CN only stack on accident. Communication between the guilds is limited to zone chat hate.

Because you have brought this up in multiple threads, how do you know which guild(s) you claim are stacking? Do you even know how to tell CN From VE from BoD?

I saw Asvaldar and Daniel stacking by each other. Easily 40+ and easily lost my audio when I got closer to the zerg balls. Nothing wrong with zurging since its a AvA game. But dont deny that you dont need to out stack everyone else to get *** done. Like I said, its all good and I respect that

Wow. The salt is real. We ended up at the same keep as daniel maybe 2 or 3 times the entire night, mostly because a home keep was lit up and we both responded. Sane and reasonable people realize that most of the guilds are farming hardcore for VD sets right now and as such are intentionally choosing map targets they think they'll be the only ones at so they get more AP, but I guess sane and reasonable people aren't so much a thing when ego comes into play and they die.

I was linked an FTC of 102 targets when we had 23 in group open field with no pugs after we wiped a group and they burned through 3 forward camps, but the FTC link was over the course of 6 minutes because apparently it takes brain cells to realize you need to reset the counter for a fight if you actually want semi-accurate head counts. And then it was dropped to "you guys had 40 there". I mean, even "I" got hate tells last night, and all I can think of is people are dying, egos are bruised, and they thought that we'd be easy kills without barrier in the meta because that had been the go-to excuse for why they died last patch - "we would have wiped you, but you just cycle barriers and there's no way to beat that". For about half the night yesterday, we had two healers xD, GG. Is my OP breath of life hitting two people too many? If I switched to honor the dead would that finally 'kill the zerg'? Hmm?

The red and yellow stacks we fought last night were at normal obscene levels, the salt is only because you died. Stop trying to find excuses (particularly ones that aren't even accurate) for your death, and blame the stupidly high burst numbers people wanted so badly for the meta, or blame your positioning/engagement decisions.

Oh, and as someone hinted at above, you really should git good and learn peoples' names, harlocke's crew is one of the main blue presences on the map.

Im not trying to put you down or even being salty. If you have learned to read and stop being an egotistical ass clown that lies on the internet to deny 24 man ball groups, you would have noticed that I said I respect your method of zurging. If you need to do that to win, its cool man, its fair. Its not my playstyle. All Im saying is thar when I get close to your ball groups, my audio cuts out and Im back to lag.

And yes we all die sometimes. Just like how VE was wiped to EP pug groups. This post isnt about who dies to who. Its about still resorting to full raids while knowing it creates lag

You're delusional. 40+ EP attack Aleswell and you have zero complaints about "zurging", but 40 DC defend their home keep and you're up in arms about stacking? Get a grip on reality for a second homie. Just because you're solo doesn't mean the other 39+ people next to you don't count. You are the zerg too.

Also, I have zero faith in your ability to determine who is who. I have never seen VE wipe to anything less than 70+ pugs, regardless if they are running 12-16, or 16-24. The last bastion of defense for fragile player egos is "you had 40" or "you stacked". You, and they, would be zero percent upset if they actually won.

#blameVE
#CNwipestopugs

I'll admit, I died a bunch last night with 4-8 people at Bleakers and Aleswell, kept charging into these huge EP groups and getting rekt. But the AP was amazing enough to keep dive bombing until 50+ swarmed Aleswell and that was that.

Why everyone so mad I have no idea. Last night was some awesome fights I thought, abd everyone got some hits in

GRxKnight · March 2016

Just in case there's a false assumption that VE only dies when largely outnumbered, i would like to point out that is indeed not the case

Satiar · March 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

For sure CN and VE! The lag was real tonight

Lol, that was it? Only 2 DC groups playing tonight? Noooo one else? Just saying VE and CN only stack on accident. Communication between the guilds is limited to zone chat hate.

Because you have brought this up in multiple threads, how do you know which guild(s) you claim are stacking? Do you even know how to tell CN From VE from BoD?

I saw Asvaldar and Daniel stacking by each other. Easily 40+ and easily lost my audio when I got closer to the zerg balls. Nothing wrong with zurging since its a AvA game. But dont deny that you dont need to out stack everyone else to get *** done. Like I said, its all good and I respect that

Wow. The salt is real. We ended up at the same keep as daniel maybe 2 or 3 times the entire night, mostly because a home keep was lit up and we both responded. Sane and reasonable people realize that most of the guilds are farming hardcore for VD sets right now and as such are intentionally choosing map targets they think they'll be the only ones at so they get more AP, but I guess sane and reasonable people aren't so much a thing when ego comes into play and they die.

I was linked an FTC of 102 targets when we had 23 in group open field with no pugs after we wiped a group and they burned through 3 forward camps, but the FTC link was over the course of 6 minutes because apparently it takes brain cells to realize you need to reset the counter for a fight if you actually want semi-accurate head counts. And then it was dropped to "you guys had 40 there". I mean, even "I" got hate tells last night, and all I can think of is people are dying, egos are bruised, and they thought that we'd be easy kills without barrier in the meta because that had been the go-to excuse for why they died last patch - "we would have wiped you, but you just cycle barriers and there's no way to beat that". For about half the night yesterday, we had two healers xD, GG. Is my OP breath of life hitting two people too many? If I switched to honor the dead would that finally 'kill the zerg'? Hmm?

The red and yellow stacks we fought last night were at normal obscene levels, the salt is only because you died. Stop trying to find excuses (particularly ones that aren't even accurate) for your death, and blame the stupidly high burst numbers people wanted so badly for the meta, or blame your positioning/engagement decisions.

Oh, and as someone hinted at above, you really should git good and learn peoples' names, harlocke's crew is one of the main blue presences on the map.

Im not trying to put you down or even being salty. If you have learned to read and stop being an egotistical ass clown that lies on the internet to deny 24 man ball groups, you would have noticed that I said I respect your method of zurging. If you need to do that to win, its cool man, its fair. Its not my playstyle. All Im saying is thar when I get close to your ball groups, my audio cuts out and Im back to lag.

And yes we all die sometimes. Just like how VE was wiped to EP pug groups. This post isnt about who dies to who. Its about still resorting to full raids while knowing it creates lag

Oh my lord. I got a bunch of whispers about this earlier today when I was running FOUR PEOPLE in the same area as CN. Tell me this isn't about that, for the love of god.

PosternHouse · March 2016

GRxKnight wrote: »

Just in case there's a false assumption that VE only dies when largely outnumbered, i would like to point out that is indeed not the case

Fighting other good guild groups is one thing. Pugs is another. It takes a metric arseload of pugs to take down VE, bordering on the entire faction.

My only lament is that the good guild groups take their ball and leave after a wipe or two. Poor sporting, imo.

PrinceFabious · March 2016

PosternHouse wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

For sure CN and VE! The lag was real tonight

Lol, that was it? Only 2 DC groups playing tonight? Noooo one else? Just saying VE and CN only stack on accident. Communication between the guilds is limited to zone chat hate.

Because you have brought this up in multiple threads, how do you know which guild(s) you claim are stacking? Do you even know how to tell CN From VE from BoD?

I saw Asvaldar and Daniel stacking by each other. Easily 40+ and easily lost my audio when I got closer to the zerg balls. Nothing wrong with zurging since its a AvA game. But dont deny that you dont need to out stack everyone else to get *** done. Like I said, its all good and I respect that

Wow. The salt is real. We ended up at the same keep as daniel maybe 2 or 3 times the entire night, mostly because a home keep was lit up and we both responded. Sane and reasonable people realize that most of the guilds are farming hardcore for VD sets right now and as such are intentionally choosing map targets they think they'll be the only ones at so they get more AP, but I guess sane and reasonable people aren't so much a thing when ego comes into play and they die.

I was linked an FTC of 102 targets when we had 23 in group open field with no pugs after we wiped a group and they burned through 3 forward camps, but the FTC link was over the course of 6 minutes because apparently it takes brain cells to realize you need to reset the counter for a fight if you actually want semi-accurate head counts. And then it was dropped to "you guys had 40 there". I mean, even "I" got hate tells last night, and all I can think of is people are dying, egos are bruised, and they thought that we'd be easy kills without barrier in the meta because that had been the go-to excuse for why they died last patch - "we would have wiped you, but you just cycle barriers and there's no way to beat that". For about half the night yesterday, we had two healers xD, GG. Is my OP breath of life hitting two people too many? If I switched to honor the dead would that finally 'kill the zerg'? Hmm?

The red and yellow stacks we fought last night were at normal obscene levels, the salt is only because you died. Stop trying to find excuses (particularly ones that aren't even accurate) for your death, and blame the stupidly high burst numbers people wanted so badly for the meta, or blame your positioning/engagement decisions.

Oh, and as someone hinted at above, you really should git good and learn peoples' names, harlocke's crew is one of the main blue presences on the map.

Im not trying to put you down or even being salty. If you have learned to read and stop being an egotistical ass clown that lies on the internet to deny 24 man ball groups, you would have noticed that I said I respect your method of zurging. If you need to do that to win, its cool man, its fair. Its not my playstyle. All Im saying is thar when I get close to your ball groups, my audio cuts out and Im back to lag.

And yes we all die sometimes. Just like how VE was wiped to EP pug groups. This post isnt about who dies to who. Its about still resorting to full raids while knowing it creates lag

You're delusional. 40+ EP attack Aleswell and you have zero complaints about "zurging", but 40 DC defend their home keep and you're up in arms about stacking? Get a grip on reality for a second homie. Just because you're solo doesn't mean the other 39+ people next to you don't count. You are the zerg too.

Also, I have zero faith in your ability to determine who is who. I have never seen VE wipe to anything less than 70+ pugs, regardless if they are running 12-16, or 16-24. The last bastion of defense for fragile player egos is "you had 40" or "you stacked". You, and they, would be zero percent upset if they actually won.

#blameVE
#CNwipestopugs

Once again..keyword "ball groups". You entire response post was completely invalid the second you hit post. All Im saying is ball groups cause lag. Not the spread out EP pugs. Performance was fine until a ball group or 10 meteors and countless proxdets/steenados from a certain 24 man ball group showed up. Why are you so butt hurt zurgling? Yes I admit, you guys are good at wiping pugs because no one else really wants to run the groups yall run because its too much time and energy just to add to lag. #staystrongzergling

Satiar · March 2016

GRxKnight wrote: »

Just in case there's a false assumption that VE only dies when largely outnumbered, i would like to point out that is indeed not the case

I don't think that's what he said. I'll be the first to say that if I have a solid group I rarely die to anything less than 2-3 times my number, unless it is another guild group. Everyone knows how it goes in this game, you can farm 50 pugs but 16 organized players can wipe you out in a heartbeat if you aren't careful.

PosternHouse · March 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

For sure CN and VE! The lag was real tonight

Lol, that was it? Only 2 DC groups playing tonight? Noooo one else? Just saying VE and CN only stack on accident. Communication between the guilds is limited to zone chat hate.

Because you have brought this up in multiple threads, how do you know which guild(s) you claim are stacking? Do you even know how to tell CN From VE from BoD?

I saw Asvaldar and Daniel stacking by each other. Easily 40+ and easily lost my audio when I got closer to the zerg balls. Nothing wrong with zurging since its a AvA game. But dont deny that you dont need to out stack everyone else to get *** done. Like I said, its all good and I respect that

Wow. The salt is real. We ended up at the same keep as daniel maybe 2 or 3 times the entire night, mostly because a home keep was lit up and we both responded. Sane and reasonable people realize that most of the guilds are farming hardcore for VD sets right now and as such are intentionally choosing map targets they think they'll be the only ones at so they get more AP, but I guess sane and reasonable people aren't so much a thing when ego comes into play and they die.

I was linked an FTC of 102 targets when we had 23 in group open field with no pugs after we wiped a group and they burned through 3 forward camps, but the FTC link was over the course of 6 minutes because apparently it takes brain cells to realize you need to reset the counter for a fight if you actually want semi-accurate head counts. And then it was dropped to "you guys had 40 there". I mean, even "I" got hate tells last night, and all I can think of is people are dying, egos are bruised, and they thought that we'd be easy kills without barrier in the meta because that had been the go-to excuse for why they died last patch - "we would have wiped you, but you just cycle barriers and there's no way to beat that". For about half the night yesterday, we had two healers xD, GG. Is my OP breath of life hitting two people too many? If I switched to honor the dead would that finally 'kill the zerg'? Hmm?

The red and yellow stacks we fought last night were at normal obscene levels, the salt is only because you died. Stop trying to find excuses (particularly ones that aren't even accurate) for your death, and blame the stupidly high burst numbers people wanted so badly for the meta, or blame your positioning/engagement decisions.

Oh, and as someone hinted at above, you really should git good and learn peoples' names, harlocke's crew is one of the main blue presences on the map.

Im not trying to put you down or even being salty. If you have learned to read and stop being an egotistical ass clown that lies on the internet to deny 24 man ball groups, you would have noticed that I said I respect your method of zurging. If you need to do that to win, its cool man, its fair. Its not my playstyle. All Im saying is thar when I get close to your ball groups, my audio cuts out and Im back to lag.

And yes we all die sometimes. Just like how VE was wiped to EP pug groups. This post isnt about who dies to who. Its about still resorting to full raids while knowing it creates lag

You're delusional. 40+ EP attack Aleswell and you have zero complaints about "zurging", but 40 DC defend their home keep and you're up in arms about stacking? Get a grip on reality for a second homie. Just because you're solo doesn't mean the other 39+ people next to you don't count. You are the zerg too.

Also, I have zero faith in your ability to determine who is who. I have never seen VE wipe to anything less than 70+ pugs, regardless if they are running 12-16, or 16-24. The last bastion of defense for fragile player egos is "you had 40" or "you stacked". You, and they, would be zero percent upset if they actually won.

#blameVE
#CNwipestopugs

Once again..keyword "ball groups". You entire response post was completely invalid the second you hit post. All Im saying is ball groups cause lag. Not the spread out EP pugs. Performance was fine until a ball group or 10 meteors and countless proxdets/steenados from a certain 24 man ball group showed up. Why are you so butt hurt zurgling? Yes I admit, you guys are good at wiping pugs because no one else really wants to run the groups yall run because its too much time and energy just to add to lag. #staystrongzergling

LOL please explain to me why 24 people in a ball sends more packets to the server than 40+ EP pugs spread out.

Could it be it's not the numbers, but the fact that those 24 people are actually using their abilities? It seems you're not upset with the numbers, you're upset that the "ball group" knows what they're doing and do it well. You're basically complaining that you need to learn to play.

Public service announcement: STOP USING YOUR ABILITIES! Light attacks, heavy attacks, and potions only. Using an activated ability will result in a stern glance and a whiny forum post.

#stayrektpug

PrinceFabious · March 2016

Thats nice, I already stopped caring about what were saying. This is where I take my leave. Seeing all these zerglings get butt hurt and watching all these forum warriors stepping up to defend their zurg playstyle was most entertaining.

allen-iverson · March 2016

someone get PrinceSadious a tissue