Why nerf cloak AND buff detection skills??? Please just describe the logic behind that

Egonieser · March 2016

Vorcil wrote: »

JDC1985 wrote: »

What's wrong big guy can't run away anymore when your in trouble or reset the fight because your loosing that's a damn shame.

Sorcs with infinite shields and teleport out of battle that stuns?
DKs with 99% damage mitigation and reflects?
Templars with instant cast max heals / un c'cable?

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How about to make it even we:
nerf sorc streaks removing the stun; with a shield timeout of 5 seconds
remove the ability to block and heal

then that'd be fair.

These are the class dynamics, it's just because you were all so bad, when all they needed to do was introduce a quest that teaches you how to drink potions or activate magelight

Streak got nerfed, also BoL morph, so it's a double nerf.
Block got nerfed.
Heals got nerfed.
Shields got nerfed.
Rolldodge got nerfed.
Everyone's damage got nerfed.

All of which are part of some class/build and their class defining abilities in one way or another..

Say what now about equality? Do you even think before your fingers touch the keyboard?

Oh and what? Templars with their instacast heals? The ones that heal just "one" target? That is damn OP man... Damn OP..

Duiwel · March 2016

Egonieser wrote: »

Say what now about equality? Do you even think before your fingers touch the keyboard?

I think many people in this thread are silently nodding

xellink · March 2016

I like these changes. The problem with nightblades in cyro is the lack of commitment to an attack. Too many stealth attacks are used to 'test the water' and then result in an easy escape. It is not strategic, it is bloody annoying with incredible lack of planning and does more to annoy players than get actual kills.

Feisty_Khajiit128 · March 2016

Well, I suppose I will stick to PvE with my nb now.

Bofrari · March 2016

Yeah 98% of nightblades that try to gank me get wrecked they are the easiest kill in this game now I can kill you alot more while your spamming your cloak.

Bofrari · March 2016

I farm ic, sewers and run in cryo all the time I rarely fail to a gank from a nb I just think its funny how upset you all are over this change get over it adapt and move on.

khele23eb17_ESO · March 2016

xellink wrote: »

I like these changes. The problem with nightblades in cyro is the lack of commitment to an attack. Too many stealth attacks are used to 'test the water' and then result in an easy escape. It is not strategic, it is bloody annoying with incredible lack of planning and does more to annoy players than get actual kills.

Was it required to make cloak useless in melee combat to achieve this?

xellink · March 2016

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

xellink wrote: »

I like these changes. The problem with nightblades in cyro is the lack of commitment to an attack. Too many stealth attacks are used to 'test the water' and then result in an easy escape. It is not strategic, it is bloody annoying with incredible lack of planning and does more to annoy players than get actual kills.

Was it required to make cloak useless in melee combat to achieve this?

It is far from useless. Just makes PVP 30% stealth NB instead of 80%. Ideally, PVP should be 25% for all 4 classes. Stealth itself is an overpowered mechanic. It makes me wonder why they didn't release the game with a hard counter to stealth.

khele23eb17_ESO · March 2016

xellink wrote: »

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

xellink wrote: »

I like these changes. The problem with nightblades in cyro is the lack of commitment to an attack. Too many stealth attacks are used to 'test the water' and then result in an easy escape. It is not strategic, it is bloody annoying with incredible lack of planning and does more to annoy players than get actual kills.

Was it required to make cloak useless in melee combat to achieve this?

It is far from useless. Just makes PVP 30% stealth NB instead of 80%. Ideally, PVP should be 25% for all 4 classes. Stealth itself is an overpowered mechanic. It makes me wonder why they didn't release the game with a hard counter to stealth.

You have 6 skill slots. Why equip cloak now?

xellink · March 2016

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

xellink wrote: »

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

xellink wrote: »

I like these changes. The problem with nightblades in cyro is the lack of commitment to an attack. Too many stealth attacks are used to 'test the water' and then result in an easy escape. It is not strategic, it is bloody annoying with incredible lack of planning and does more to annoy players than get actual kills.

Was it required to make cloak useless in melee combat to achieve this?

It is far from useless. Just makes PVP 30% stealth NB instead of 80%. Ideally, PVP should be 25% for all 4 classes. Stealth itself is an overpowered mechanic. It makes me wonder why they didn't release the game with a hard counter to stealth.

You have 6 skill slots. Why equip cloak now?

They have 6 skill slots too and they are using one for mage light. Not everyone is going to bring radiant mage light. What makes you think 100% players run magicka. People do use stamina builds. The other two have only 8m radius. The skill only lasts for 5 seconds.

You still can attack, you just have to pick your targets and commit to your attack. This change solidifies group play and pressure builds (players are less likely going to harass hardy players). There are almost no pressure builds because armored players are too easily killed by sneak DPS.

vamp_emily · March 2016

JDC1985 wrote: »

I farm ic, sewers and run in cryo all the time I rarely fail to a gank from a nb I just think its funny how upset you all are over this change get over it adapt and move on.

Says the guy who does not understand class design. Lets all give him an applause then go gank him.