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With out DX10 I have to quit..
ealthina
Soul Shriven
Before the Buy a better rig comments start flowing it's not in my budget. I was really enjoying my return to the game. I beta'd and played through the first couple of months until I went back to my raid guild in EQ2 due to the lack of healers. Anyways, with the drop of the DX 10 support and moving to 11 I will not be able to play the game anymore. Sorry, but this sucks. I guess oh well for me.
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✭$10 a month for a few months and you'll get a card. Just saying.Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...5 -
WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Farewell and best wishes to you. May you join your PC Master Race brother and sisters again soon.1 -
Troneon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Zos shot themselves in the foot on this one...PC EU ADMaster Crafter - Anything you need!!High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/TankTrials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything2 -
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✭Remove anything but DX 11 support in order to get better performance, game performs worse!:]5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Not much in the way of condolences, but once you are able to get a new system, you can pick up with ESO where you left off.
XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Selstad✭✭✭✭It's unfortunate but a necessary step. DX11 was released in 2009 and most people have a DX11 ready or support for a DX11 environment. It becomes a choice then for the developers, continue spending money on developing and optimizing for a standard that's 10 years old (DX10) or focus their efforts in stabilizing the most current version that most people have support for (DX11).
I understand it's frustrating if you're unfortunate to not have a DX11 support. But on the other side, I also understand Zenimax in taking this decision. Game graphics are moving forward, and they have to utilize the newest standard that most people have, and that includes sacrificing the few that don't have that standard, in order to give the rest that do the best graphics they can for this game.10 -
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lolZos shot themselves in the foot on this one...
No they didn't. If the number of players this affects were anything larger than a small fraction of a percentage, they never would have done it.
DX11 has been the standard for years, and they gave everyone a year to prepare for this.
Zeni didn't do anything to themselves, but your overreaction is cute.
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✭✭✭✭✭It's unfortunate but a necessary step. DX11 was released in 2009 and most people have a DX11 ready or support for a DX11 environment. It becomes a choice then for the developers, continue spending money on developing and optimizing for a standard that's 10 years old (DX10) or focus their efforts in stabilizing the most current version that most people have support for (DX11).
While also devoting resources to supporting DX12, of course. I suspect that was the catalyst for the decision to draw a line under DX9/10.
While I acknowledge that they did first announce the change a year ago, and raised the stated minimum requirements when Tamriel Unlimited launched since when they have given plenty of time for players to make any necessary upgrades before withdrawing support for the out-dated DX versions, I do think they should have been pro-actively reminding people by e.g. a pop-up window on the launcher during recent weeks.
As a technical change this was very sensible and capably handled, but as a public relations and business management exercise it has been a disaster. I think it's time they acknowledged that.3 -
Animal_Mother✭✭✭✭Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
lolZos shot themselves in the foot on this one...
No they didn't. If the number of players this affects were anything larger than a small fraction of a percentage, they never would have done it.
DX11 has been the standard for years, and they gave everyone a year to prepare for this.
Zeni didn't do anything to themselves, but your overreaction is cute.
But it's not just DX 10 being dropped. There were a ton of other decisions ZOS made to upset various portions of their community. Game performance, class balancing issues, respecs, non-instanced TG quests, PvP meta, and communication are all examples of how ZOS shot themselves in the foot with this DLC. Most of these issues were mentioned on the PTS forum - so ZOS cannot say they weren't aware of the issues.1 -
Uriel_Nocturne✭✭✭✭✭
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Yet, this particular thread is about DX11 specifically.Animal_Mother wrote: »Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
lolZos shot themselves in the foot on this one...
No they didn't. If the number of players this affects were anything larger than a small fraction of a percentage, they never would have done it.
DX11 has been the standard for years, and they gave everyone a year to prepare for this.
Zeni didn't do anything to themselves, but your overreaction is cute.
But it's not just DX 10 being dropped. There were a ton of other decisions ZOS made to upset various portions of their community. Game performance, class balancing issues, respecs, non-instanced TG quests, PvP meta, and communication are all examples of how ZOS shot themselves in the foot with this DLC. Most of these issues were mentioned on the PTS forum - so ZOS cannot say they weren't aware of the issues.
Even in your post, you never allude to other issues. Your reply that I quoted only applies (in context) to the subject of the thread.
If you want to rail about the other missteps of the TG Patch, that should probably be taken to those other threads. I responded in the context of the thread. It wasn't until this most recent post that you decided to enlighten every one that you meant much more than what you typed.
So, I still stand by my post/argument.
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Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭Before the Buy a better rig comments start flowing it's not in my budget. I was really enjoying my return to the game. I beta'd and played through the first couple of months until I went back to my raid guild in EQ2 due to the lack of healers. Anyways, with the drop of the DX 10 support and moving to 11 I will not be able to play the game anymore. Sorry, but this sucks. I guess oh well for me.
How old is your laptop? I have an Asus ROG with a 5870m card in it I bought in 2010 that can still run the game. If it's within 5 years old your card should be able to support it. Check with the manufacturer on downloads for it. You may need a Bios update or something else for that support. It's worth checking into at least.NA Server - Kildair0 -
Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭One suggestion for you is IF you have any ability at all to put aside some money is go with a desktop. You can get much better specs for less money and you'll be upgradeable for less money for a while.Beta tester November 20130 -
Selstad✭✭✭✭It's unfortunate but a necessary step. DX11 was released in 2009 and most people have a DX11 ready or support for a DX11 environment. It becomes a choice then for the developers, continue spending money on developing and optimizing for a standard that's 10 years old (DX10) or focus their efforts in stabilizing the most current version that most people have support for (DX11).
While also devoting resources to supporting DX12, of course. I suspect that was the catalyst for the decision to draw a line under DX9/10.
While I acknowledge that they did first announce the change a year ago, and raised the stated minimum requirements when Tamriel Unlimited launched since when they have given plenty of time for players to make any necessary upgrades before withdrawing support for the out-dated DX versions, I do think they should have been pro-actively reminding people by e.g. a pop-up window on the launcher during recent weeks.
As a technical change this was very sensible and capably handled, but as a public relations and business management exercise it has been a disaster. I think it's time they acknowledged that.
Indeed, even though DX12 isn't in the game yet, I'm certain that given time they will start adding it. The interesting part though is that Windows 10 hasn't gotten that wide support Microsoft had hoped for, and since DX12 is Windows 10 locked, it's crucial for them to get people to use Windows 10 and DX12.
From a business perspective, I don't see it as a disaster. They announced it early on, and made people clear on their intentions around the DX version. I'm also certain that they've done the necessary strategical analysis beforehand necessary to make this decisions, such as checking what DX version the majority of people have.0 -
Animal_Mother✭✭✭✭Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
Yet, this particular thread is about DX11 specifically.Animal_Mother wrote: »Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
lolZos shot themselves in the foot on this one...
No they didn't. If the number of players this affects were anything larger than a small fraction of a percentage, they never would have done it.
DX11 has been the standard for years, and they gave everyone a year to prepare for this.
Zeni didn't do anything to themselves, but your overreaction is cute.
But it's not just DX 10 being dropped. There were a ton of other decisions ZOS made to upset various portions of their community. Game performance, class balancing issues, respecs, non-instanced TG quests, PvP meta, and communication are all examples of how ZOS shot themselves in the foot with this DLC. Most of these issues were mentioned on the PTS forum - so ZOS cannot say they weren't aware of the issues.
Even in your post, you never allude to other issues. Your reply that I quoted only applies (in context) to the subject of the thread.
If you want to rail about the other missteps of the TG Patch, that should probably be taken to those other threads. I responded in the context of the thread. It wasn't until this most recent post that you decided to enlighten every one that you meant much more than what you typed.
So, I still stand by my post/argument.
You were writing off Toneon's assertion that ZOS was shooting themselves in foot by dropping DX10, saying it doesn't matter because only a few people use DX10. I'm pointing out ZOS did shoot themselves in foot if not for the issue at hand, but for any one of a variety of issues.
If I had a laptop from 2008 as my only computer, I would be unable to play ESO under Windows or OSX. I can see why people wouldn't update their machines from this time. CPU processing power has not improved greatly since Intels last generation C2D processor, eventhough laptops have gotten more effiecient in that time. A person can have a more than passable laptop simply by maxxing out their ram and installing an SSD.
Makng someone unable to play your game when they could from launch is a bad thing. People have put time and hard money into the game. Now with this DLC they are unable to. ZOS has lost them, i.e. shot themselves in the foot for some.1 -
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The error ZOS made was not aggressively informing players who would be impacted. Not all gamers are technically savvy and/or have the time/inclination to follow the development news of ESO. Especially in this community which has a lot of inexperienced gamers.
ZOS most likely considered the financial impact of losing these players and wrote them off without considering the personal impact to the players.
It would have been trivial for ZOS to e-mail players with warnings as the change approached. The patcher could have also delivered warnings about 2.3 DX compatibility.
It's poor customer service.
To ealthina and other players impacted, I'm very sorry this happened. It sucks to have something we enjoy taken away from us; regardless of the reasons. I'd feel terrible if it happened to me; and thus I feel terrible for you.Edited by zyk on March 9, 2016 3:48PM2 -
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If you need a laptop, there are some available these days around $800 with 965M or 960M and quad core CPU. In a few months when Pascal mobile is available, price should be even lower for the older laptops.
My laptop is from 2009, lucky to be one of the first generation with DX11 compatible GPU. Doesn't play great, but it seems to have improved a bit with the 64-bit exe. I can now play with subsampling cranked up to high instead of medium.Animal_Mother wrote: »
If I had a laptop from 2008 as my only computer, I would be unable to play ESO under Windows or OSX. I can see why people wouldn't update their machines from this time. CPU processing power has not improved greatly since Intels last generation C2D processor, eventhough laptops have gotten more effiecient in that time. A person can have a more than passable laptop simply by maxxing out their ram and installing an SSD.
Edited by IcyDeadPeople on March 9, 2016 4:11PM0 -
ZOS_MollyHmodGreetings @ealthina !
We're sorry to hear that the updated requirements mean you won't be joining us in Tamriel for a while. While there have been helpful players in this thread who have provided advice and suggestions for when you're ready and able to return, there have also been some very rude posts that have been removed.
As goodbye threads are against our rules, we're going to close this thread at this time.The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited - ZeniMax Online Studios
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