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Poll: DO YOU WANT A FREE RESPEC?

  • dodgehopper_ESO
    dodgehopper_ESO
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    Yes
    This is the problem. I don't want to have to do a complete respec every 3 months they give us a DLC. I'd like to actually have that gold available to purchase all the new goodies. The respec thing really kills it for people who are scarce on time.

    EDIT: What I'm saying is I don't like having to spend MY gold/crowns because they decided to fundamentally upend the design of the game, many times in ways that completely wreck my build.
    Edited by dodgehopper_ESO on March 8, 2016 6:36PM
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
    US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
    EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
    <And plenty more>
  • XANTITHESISX
    XANTITHESISX
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    Yes


    ...until you get hit with a nerf bat.
    Edited by XANTITHESISX on March 8, 2016 6:36PM
  • svartorn
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    Yes
    I thought it was expected to give us a free respec if they are changing skills around.

    ZOS obsessed with new mounts and pets tho.
  • RedRoomGaming
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    Doesn't really matter
    It would be good if we could reset certain skill lines eg two handed because egoist going dual wield. Not the whole 200+ skill points because you want to change weapon rolls.
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  • Moonshadow66
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    Yes
    jbcrocks wrote: »
    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    Game needs money sinks.

    I'm okay to spend 17k gold really..but just that. Just on one char. Now do that to 7 of your other chars :(

    Same here, I've only respecced 1 so far, out of 8.

    For the ones who voted "no", here an example for you for better understanding:

    Having to respec 8 characters is comparable (in gold) to throwing away ~64 Rosins, or ~42 Dreugh Wax, or ~18 Tempering Alloy, or ~16 Kuta.

    For a player with only 1 character however, it's comparable to ~8 Rosins / ~5 Dreugh Wax / ~2 Tempering Alloy / ~2 Kuta.

    Venus Ocean - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Gixia - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
    Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
    Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP

  • Masstershake
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    Yes
    I had to spend gold because they messed up my spec. With this significant amount of changes there should have been a point reset across the board
    Meatwad gets the honeys G.
  • newtinmpls
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    Doesn't really matter
    If it's 'do it when you want it' that's too easy to abuse.

    I'd be okay with forced. And I play 16 characters - and then a few extra on EU.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
    ***
    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • stevenbennett_ESO
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    No
    The only reason for them to provide a free respec is when a skill or morph is changed *completely* - ie. replaced with a different skill or morph, or changed, say, from using Magicka to Stamina. In those kinds of cases, a respec isn't an option, it's an absolute necessity. We had a number of those types of changes with IC, *requiring* a respec. We had NO such changes with Orsinium or TG, so we didn't need a free respec.

    So all of you who are complaining about the money spent respeccing your characters -- you're doing it because you WANTED to tweak your spec to match the new game balance, not because you NEEDED to do so. Honestly, I think you jumped the gun, because there will inevitably be further tweaks to some of those abilities, but that's your choice -- there was nothing in TG which absolutely *required* you to respec. (I have 16 characters myself... and didn't feel the need to respec ANY of them.)

    And to answer the other question in this thread, if the situation comes up again where a respec is an absolute necessity, I'm perfectly fine with it being forced.
  • purple-magicb16_ESO
    purple-magicb16_ESO
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    Yes
    Ya - everytime they adjust skills and attributes.
    I don't comment here often but when I do, I get [snip]
  • idk
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    No
    Ship sailed. Maybe we get one next time. Not that big a deal since gold is so easy to get.
  • lavenderkae
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    Yes
    Yes. If skills are changed in any way, and it cost tens of thousands of gold to do respecs on higher level characters/over multiple characters, then there absolutely should be a free respec. It's absurd to have to spend 100k to respec all your characters when the changes are NOT optional.

    I get that some people who don't need to make any changes don't want to have to deal with it. So instead of a forced respec, do something like:
    Option 1: Mail everyone a scroll similar to the crown respec scrolls. Make it expire in a week if not used or something to prevent stockpiling them.
    Option2: Make respecs significantly cheaper or free for either a one time use or for like a week after major changes like this patch has been.
    Option 3: Have a respec vendor that only appears the week after big patches like this, who will reset everything for free/extremely reduced cost. Avoids mass mailing and reprogramming the shrines, and can be taken back out with the following week's normal maintenance.
  • Reevster
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    No
    No , go out and earn it.
  • MissBizz
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    Yes
    The only reason for them to provide a free respec is when a skill or morph is changed *completely* - ie. replaced with a different skill or morph, or changed, say, from using Magicka to Stamina. In those kinds of cases, a respec isn't an option, it's an absolute necessity. We had a number of those types of changes with IC, *requiring* a respec. We had NO such changes with Orsinium or TG, so we didn't need a free respec.

    So all of you who are complaining about the money spent respeccing your characters -- you're doing it because you WANTED to tweak your spec to match the new game balance, not because you NEEDED to do so. Honestly, I think you jumped the gun, because there will inevitably be further tweaks to some of those abilities, but that's your choice -- there was nothing in TG which absolutely *required* you to respec. (I have 16 characters myself... and didn't feel the need to respec ANY of them.)

    And to answer the other question in this thread, if the situation comes up again where a respec is an absolute necessity, I'm perfectly fine with it being forced.

    @stevenbennett_ESO One of the CP skills (Thematuage or however you spell it) used to increase magicka damage. As a Templar, I definitely invested in this skill - now it increases DOT damage. How is that not a complete change?

    Second thing - Unstable Core no longer reflects single target abilities back. That's completely changing the skill.

    There definitely has been skills that have been changed dramatically to the point they seem like a different skill.

    Something should be done. Obviously some folks didn't like forced respecs... fine. Send us respec scrolls in the mail, make respecs 1g for a week or two.. something!

    As well, things being "tweaked" heavily DO deserve a respec. Sometimes you choose a skill because the other morph is not exciting nor does it appear useful to you. Once they change things up that other morph can suddenly be much more fitting for how you wanted to use it anyways.
    Edited by MissBizz on March 8, 2016 9:58PM
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  • Ourorboros
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    Yes
    This is pretty straight-forward to me. If I opt to change skills or CP, I am willing to pay for it. If the game changes skills and/or CP that affect my character I shouldn't have to pay.

    I understand that a forced respec catches some players unawares, and they are not happy. But there are thousands of examples everyday of people literally paying for the mistake of not paying attention. Why should regular players be forking over gold to keep the inattentive happy?
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  • Annalyse
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    Yes
    Yes, even though I already paid a hefty sum for mine.

    I get that some people get annoyed, but why can't you just have a little pop-up window when someone logs in asking if they want the respec? Then those that don't want it can just click no.

    Offering cheaper/free shrine rates for a week is okay, but that doesn't help with the champion points. Still, it would be better than nothing.
  • sylviermoone
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    Yes
    I would absolutely settle for 1g per skill point/champion point.
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  • Moonshadow66
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    Yes
    Ourorboros wrote: »
    This is pretty straight-forward to me. If I opt to change skills or CP, I am willing to pay for it. If the game changes skills and/or CP that affect my character I shouldn't have to pay.
    (...)

    ^THIS!!
    It's THE most logic way to explain why we SHOULD get a free respec!

    I don't mind at all doing a respec, even on multipel characters, when I want to change something or try something new.. on my own. But I do mind when I'm forced to it, especially on ALL characters, although I didn't even ask for a skill or CP change.
    Venus Ocean - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Gixia - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
    Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
    Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP

  • Mirelurk
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    Yes
    I really hope that ZOS didn't choose to placate the tiny minority who were whingeing about respecs due to the side effect that they could sell more stuff through the Crown store as a result.
    Knights of Nirn | Daggerfall Covenant | PC | NA server

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    Morass | V16 | Breton | Templar
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    Catagory | V9 | Khajit | Nightblade




  • Slimjewels
    Slimjewels
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    Yes
    Yes.
    Place a small respec fee on for a limited time allowing people to align correctly,hopefully problem solved.
  • Moonshadow66
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    Yes
    Reevster wrote: »
    No , go out and earn it.

    No, you go out and start using your brain.
    How the hell should anyone who has multiple characters, even 8 or more, "earn" it? Can we play all characters simultaneously in order to "earn" enough gold to respec every single one of them???
    Venus Ocean - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Gixia - Breton Sorceress VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Frances Demnevanni - Breton Dragonknight VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Raygee - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero
    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
    Elaine Benes - Breton Templar VR16, EP | Ray McCluck - Breton Sorcerer VR16, EP
    Moonshadow Demnevanni - Dunmer Dragonknight Lvl 50, EP | Jamie Stacey - Redguard Templar Lvl 50, EP
    Caia Cosades - Imperial Nightblade, EP

  • CirithValaria
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    Yes
    MMORPG: Will players be getting a free respec of their abilities with the Thieves Guild patch?
    MattFiror: No, it’s not a good idea to make everyone respec their entire character whenever a DLC is released. Until we have the ability to respec just one skill line at a time, we won’t be doing any more forced respecs. We do have plans for this, and we’ll get it in as soon as we can.
    Motto:
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    What we have done for others and the world, it remains and is immortal...”

    About me:
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    | The Sanctum Sanctorum - founder & guild master |

    Characters:
    @Cirith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
    Cirith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Lady of Light, Templar DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Aldmeri Dominion (Master Crafter - all crafts, traits & styles.)
    Nezghul Sithis | Breton (F) | Winter Ward, Warden Tank (magic) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Hakrate Hecate | Orc (F) | Dying Light, Templar DD (stamina, PvP) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Tummien-Vesien-Tulkki | Argonian (M) | Blood Shield, Nightblade Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Valonkantaja | Argonian (F) | Healer of the Hist, Templar Healer | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Tulenvalaja | Argonian (M) | Guardian of the Hist, Dragonknight DD (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kuolon-Raatojen-Kaitsija | Argonian (M) | Corpsekeeper of the Hist, Necromancer Tank (magic) | lvl 20 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kal-Mah | Argonian (F) | Spawn of Wamasu, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Puutiainen | Bosmer (F) | Horny Ravager, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Musta-Surma | Khajiit (F) | Nightpawler, Nightblade DD - thief/murderer (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    T'Sok Shiar | Altmer (F) | Touched by Daedra, Sorcerer DD (magic) | (ex)VR 1 | Daggerfall Covenant (Master Cook - all recipes.)
    S'auron | Khajiit (M) | Poison Paw, Dragonknight DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (1100CP)

    @Lilith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
    Lilith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Phœnix, Dragonknight Healer | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Stormpaw | Khajiit (F) | Cpt. Pirate Puss, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Iliath Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Storm Ward, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Haudantakainen | Argonian (M) | Pale Avenger, Nightblade DD (magic) | lvl 25 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kira Tal'Shiar | Breton (F) | Warrior of Light, Templar DD (magic) | lvl 10 | Ebonheart Pact
    Sunpaw | Khajiit (M) | Crescent Moon Guardian, Templar Tank (stamina, PvP) | lvl 40 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Shangri Shadowtusk | Orc (F) | Shadowtusk, Nightblade DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (180CP)

    @CirithValaria(ps4-eu)
    Topaz-dar | Khajiit (F) | Mysticat, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 5 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Her-Frozen-Heart | Argonian (F) | Frozen Shield, Warden Tank (magicka) | lvl 5 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Neazgûl | Redguard (F) | Bear Matron, Warden DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (160CP)
  • jbcrocks
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    Yes
    MMORPG: Will players be getting a free respec of their abilities with the Thieves Guild patch?
    MattFiror: No, it’s not a good idea to make everyone respec their entire character whenever a DLC is released. Until we have the ability to respec just one skill line at a time, we won’t be doing any more forced respecs. We do have plans for this, and we’ll get it in as soon as we can.

    They should at least do optional ones..
    jbcrocks [EP] - Dunmer DK - Vamp since launch - AvA 37
    Chaboyyyhd [EP]- Altmer Sorcerer - AvA 9
    Jb Shadowcloak [EP] - Imperial Nightblade AvA 9
    Commander Soviets [AD] - Bosmer Nightnlade AvA 5

  • notimetocare
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    Doesn't really matter
    Ah, gold is easy to earn. The time you spent crying here you could make almost enough to respect.
  • jbcrocks
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    Yes
    Ah, gold is easy to earn. The time you spent crying here you could make almost enough to respect.

    I have the money. I just don't wanna spend it for something like this..
    jbcrocks [EP] - Dunmer DK - Vamp since launch - AvA 37
    Chaboyyyhd [EP]- Altmer Sorcerer - AvA 9
    Jb Shadowcloak [EP] - Imperial Nightblade AvA 9
    Commander Soviets [AD] - Bosmer Nightnlade AvA 5

  • reften
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    Yes
    lol, poll, do you want free $$$? Yes or no?
    Reften
    Bosmer (Wood Elf)
    Moonlight Crew (RIP), Misfitz (RIP), Victorem Guild

    VR16 NB, Stam build, Max all crafts.

    Azuras & Trueflame. Mostly PvP, No alts.

    Semi-retired till the lag is fixed.

    Love the Packers, Bourbon, and ESO...one of those will eventually kill me.
  • Ampnode
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    Yes
    Alright... 79% want a free respec. What logic is it to listen to 21% instead of 79%. Seriously, ZOS?
    PC NA - CP640+

    Characters:
    Amp - Magicka Nightblade
    Amp - Magicka Sorcerer
    Amp - Magicka Templar
    Amp - Stamina Dragonknight
    Amp - Stamina Templar
    Amp - Magicka Dragonknight
    Amp - Stamina Sorcerer
    Amp - Stamina Nightblade
  • LaucianNailor
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    Yes
    Whilst the overwhelmingly positive view here is that the vast majority of voters want at least the option to respec, what is more interesting is that Zos are completely ignoring this thread as it clearly falls on to the 'too difficult' pile! Just keep quiet and it'll go away :s

    The complete and utter BS that Firor trotted out to MMORPG that "they are working on a solution for the future" is laughable. Respec scrolls exist NOW, in-game Mail and character level deliveries exist NOW. Just make this happen
    Mac/PC EU Server

    Lots of alts....561+ CP
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  • Necrelios
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    Yes
    This ship has sailed but it sure would have been nice. Did 3 respecs today and just that broke the bank. If any major update deserved it though, this would have been it. I had 86 skill points leftover on my main V16 who is also my max crafter which tells me there are a lot of skills and in some cases entire skill lines I'm not using anymore.
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  • xarguideb17_ESO
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    Yes
    I'll take a free respec at any time.
  • mertusta
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    Yes
    At least give us respec scrolls or ask "do you wanna respec your skills" etc. It is so hard to understand zos logic...
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