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Game sorely needs a difficulty slider, it's just too damn boring to quest.

  • Dahveed
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    Forum question: Is it impossible to edit an OP? I can't find the little options icon. I was going to link to the video in the OP but it seems I cannot.
  • Dahveed
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »

    If I do, I press one button and I'm full HP again. It's sad.
    ......

    The point is moot, I don't ever use healing on this character. It's a restriction I've self-imposed to add more challenge (to no avail).

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of how to troll. Contradict yourself in your feeble attempt to make your point.

    I have a heal ability on my main, my Nord DK.

    I do not have heal abilities on my alt, the NB.

    It is not a contradiction. But you lack imagination, so we can forgive you.

    So what is this magical one press and instantly heal yourself button then? Please let me know, I've never heard of it, and I'm all for anything that will improve my game play.

    I can't remember what the ability is called, it's been too long since I've played my DK. I have it on my ability bar. It's an ability that heals me for a very good chunk of HP (like 40% of my bar or something) as well as giving me a shield. Heart of something-or-other? It's a Draconic ability, can't remember, sorry. But I can use it like 3 times in a row even though I haven't spent a single point in Magicka.

    Any time I get in "trouble" (never happens) I just press this button. If for some reason my keyboard gets disconnected for a full minute against a quest mob and I lose even more hp, I just have to plug it back and and *gasp* press this button twice. Full HP.

    Dragon blood. I dont think theres a shield on it

    I could be wrong. Maybe not a shield, but accelerated health regen or something once you morph it. I remember it does have a very useful secondary effect.
  • Shunravi
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    Dahveed wrote: »
    Forum question: Is it impossible to edit an OP? I can't find the little options icon. I was going to link to the video in the OP but it seems I cannot.

    Gear at the title
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • jkemmery
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    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »

    If I do, I press one button and I'm full HP again. It's sad.
    ......

    The point is moot, I don't ever use healing on this character. It's a restriction I've self-imposed to add more challenge (to no avail).

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of how to troll. Contradict yourself in your feeble attempt to make your point.

    I have a heal ability on my main, my Nord DK.

    I do not have heal abilities on my alt, the NB.

    It is not a contradiction. But you lack imagination, so we can forgive you.

    So what is this magical one press and instantly heal yourself button then? Please let me know, I've never heard of it, and I'm all for anything that will improve my game play.

    I can't remember what the ability is called, it's been too long since I've played my DK. I have it on my ability bar. It's an ability that heals me for a very good chunk of HP (like 40% of my bar or something) as well as giving me a shield. Heart of something-or-other? It's a Draconic ability, can't remember, sorry. But I can use it like 3 times in a row even though I haven't spent a single point in Magicka.

    Any time I get in "trouble" (never happens) I just press this button. If for some reason my keyboard gets disconnected for a full minute against a quest mob and I lose even more hp, I just have to plug it back and and *gasp* press this button twice. Full HP.

    Dragon Blood heals you for 1/3 of your missing health. Pressing it twice won't fully heal you. If you have the kind of stamina you would need to one shot kill mobs, then you probably don't even have enough magica to use it twice, or just barely since it costs a ton of magica to use it. I have zero points in magica, roughly 2/3rds in stamina and the other third in health, and at VR16 I can only use dragon blood once. It does not give a shield, but it does increase your health regeneration.

    So up to now I've bitten the troll bait.

    I'm done.
    Edited by jkemmery on March 8, 2016 10:38PM
  • Dahveed
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Forum question: Is it impossible to edit an OP? I can't find the little options icon. I was going to link to the video in the OP but it seems I cannot.

    Gear at the title

    Thanks.
  • Shunravi
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    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »

    If I do, I press one button and I'm full HP again. It's sad.
    ......

    The point is moot, I don't ever use healing on this character. It's a restriction I've self-imposed to add more challenge (to no avail).

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of how to troll. Contradict yourself in your feeble attempt to make your point.

    I have a heal ability on my main, my Nord DK.

    I do not have heal abilities on my alt, the NB.

    It is not a contradiction. But you lack imagination, so we can forgive you.

    So what is this magical one press and instantly heal yourself button then? Please let me know, I've never heard of it, and I'm all for anything that will improve my game play.

    I can't remember what the ability is called, it's been too long since I've played my DK. I have it on my ability bar. It's an ability that heals me for a very good chunk of HP (like 40% of my bar or something) as well as giving me a shield. Heart of something-or-other? It's a Draconic ability, can't remember, sorry. But I can use it like 3 times in a row even though I haven't spent a single point in Magicka.

    Any time I get in "trouble" (never happens) I just press this button. If for some reason my keyboard gets disconnected for a full minute against a quest mob and I lose even more hp, I just have to plug it back and and *gasp* press this button twice. Full HP.

    Dragon Blood heals you for 1/3 of your missing health. Pressing it twice won't fully heal you. If you have the kind of stamina you would need to one shot kill mobs, then you probably don't even have enough magica to use it twice, or just barely since it costs a ton of magica to use it. I have zero points in magica, roughly 2/3rds in stamina and the other third in health, and at VR16 I can only use dragon blood once. It does not give a shield, but it does increase your health regeneration.

    So up to now I've bitten the troll bait.

    I'm done.

    Someone has to call out B.S. braggarts who claim the game is too easy though.

    Dude, you can't even tell what a vet 3 mob looks like
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
  • Dahveed
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    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »

    If I do, I press one button and I'm full HP again. It's sad.
    ......

    The point is moot, I don't ever use healing on this character. It's a restriction I've self-imposed to add more challenge (to no avail).

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of how to troll. Contradict yourself in your feeble attempt to make your point.

    I have a heal ability on my main, my Nord DK.

    I do not have heal abilities on my alt, the NB.

    It is not a contradiction. But you lack imagination, so we can forgive you.

    So what is this magical one press and instantly heal yourself button then? Please let me know, I've never heard of it, and I'm all for anything that will improve my game play.

    I can't remember what the ability is called, it's been too long since I've played my DK. I have it on my ability bar. It's an ability that heals me for a very good chunk of HP (like 40% of my bar or something) as well as giving me a shield. Heart of something-or-other? It's a Draconic ability, can't remember, sorry. But I can use it like 3 times in a row even though I haven't spent a single point in Magicka.

    Any time I get in "trouble" (never happens) I just press this button. If for some reason my keyboard gets disconnected for a full minute against a quest mob and I lose even more hp, I just have to plug it back and and *gasp* press this button twice. Full HP.

    Dragon Blood heals you for 1/3 of your missing health. Pressing it twice won't fully heal you. If you have the kind of stamina you would need to one shot kill mobs, then you probably don't even have enough magica to use it twice, or just barely since it costs a ton of magica to use it. I have zero points in magica, roughly 2/3rds in stamina and the other third in health, and at VR16 I can only use dragon blood once. It does not give a shield, but it does increase your health regeneration.

    So up to now I've bitten the troll bait.

    I'm done.

    Okay do I have to upload another video for christ's sake. Jesus. Why would I lie about something like this?

    Christ you're annoying.

    Funny how you're "done" literally 3 minutes before my video is done processing, the vid that will prove everything I am saying.

    I am a "troll", right. Pot calling the kettle black...
  • jkemmery
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »

    If I do, I press one button and I'm full HP again. It's sad.
    ......

    The point is moot, I don't ever use healing on this character. It's a restriction I've self-imposed to add more challenge (to no avail).

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of how to troll. Contradict yourself in your feeble attempt to make your point.

    I have a heal ability on my main, my Nord DK.

    I do not have heal abilities on my alt, the NB.

    It is not a contradiction. But you lack imagination, so we can forgive you.

    So what is this magical one press and instantly heal yourself button then? Please let me know, I've never heard of it, and I'm all for anything that will improve my game play.

    I can't remember what the ability is called, it's been too long since I've played my DK. I have it on my ability bar. It's an ability that heals me for a very good chunk of HP (like 40% of my bar or something) as well as giving me a shield. Heart of something-or-other? It's a Draconic ability, can't remember, sorry. But I can use it like 3 times in a row even though I haven't spent a single point in Magicka.

    Any time I get in "trouble" (never happens) I just press this button. If for some reason my keyboard gets disconnected for a full minute against a quest mob and I lose even more hp, I just have to plug it back and and *gasp* press this button twice. Full HP.

    Dragon Blood heals you for 1/3 of your missing health. Pressing it twice won't fully heal you. If you have the kind of stamina you would need to one shot kill mobs, then you probably don't even have enough magica to use it twice, or just barely since it costs a ton of magica to use it. I have zero points in magica, roughly 2/3rds in stamina and the other third in health, and at VR16 I can only use dragon blood once. It does not give a shield, but it does increase your health regeneration.

    So up to now I've bitten the troll bait.

    I'm done.

    Someone has to call out B.S. braggarts who claim the game is too easy though.

    Dude, you can't even tell what a vet 3 mob looks like

    You're right, vet 3, not lvl 5. Still a low level mob compared to where I am now.
  • Shunravi
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    jkemmery wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »

    If I do, I press one button and I'm full HP again. It's sad.
    ......

    The point is moot, I don't ever use healing on this character. It's a restriction I've self-imposed to add more challenge (to no avail).

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of how to troll. Contradict yourself in your feeble attempt to make your point.

    I have a heal ability on my main, my Nord DK.

    I do not have heal abilities on my alt, the NB.

    It is not a contradiction. But you lack imagination, so we can forgive you.

    So what is this magical one press and instantly heal yourself button then? Please let me know, I've never heard of it, and I'm all for anything that will improve my game play.

    I can't remember what the ability is called, it's been too long since I've played my DK. I have it on my ability bar. It's an ability that heals me for a very good chunk of HP (like 40% of my bar or something) as well as giving me a shield. Heart of something-or-other? It's a Draconic ability, can't remember, sorry. But I can use it like 3 times in a row even though I haven't spent a single point in Magicka.

    Any time I get in "trouble" (never happens) I just press this button. If for some reason my keyboard gets disconnected for a full minute against a quest mob and I lose even more hp, I just have to plug it back and and *gasp* press this button twice. Full HP.

    Dragon Blood heals you for 1/3 of your missing health. Pressing it twice won't fully heal you. If you have the kind of stamina you would need to one shot kill mobs, then you probably don't even have enough magica to use it twice, or just barely since it costs a ton of magica to use it. I have zero points in magica, roughly 2/3rds in stamina and the other third in health, and at VR16 I can only use dragon blood once. It does not give a shield, but it does increase your health regeneration.

    So up to now I've bitten the troll bait.

    I'm done.

    Someone has to call out B.S. braggarts who claim the game is too easy though.

    Dude, you can't even tell what a vet 3 mob looks like

    You're right, vet 3, not lvl 5. Still a low level mob compared to where I am now.

    He's killing mobs at level.
    Edited by Shunravi on March 8, 2016 10:45PM
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  • spoqster
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    Dahveed wrote: »
    Forum question: Is it impossible to edit an OP? I can't find the little options icon. I was going to link to the video in the OP but it seems I cannot.

    You can edit it, but the edit cog is next to the title, where you wouldn't expect it.
  • jkemmery
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »

    If I do, I press one button and I'm full HP again. It's sad.
    ......

    The point is moot, I don't ever use healing on this character. It's a restriction I've self-imposed to add more challenge (to no avail).

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of how to troll. Contradict yourself in your feeble attempt to make your point.

    I have a heal ability on my main, my Nord DK.

    I do not have heal abilities on my alt, the NB.

    It is not a contradiction. But you lack imagination, so we can forgive you.

    So what is this magical one press and instantly heal yourself button then? Please let me know, I've never heard of it, and I'm all for anything that will improve my game play.

    I can't remember what the ability is called, it's been too long since I've played my DK. I have it on my ability bar. It's an ability that heals me for a very good chunk of HP (like 40% of my bar or something) as well as giving me a shield. Heart of something-or-other? It's a Draconic ability, can't remember, sorry. But I can use it like 3 times in a row even though I haven't spent a single point in Magicka.

    Any time I get in "trouble" (never happens) I just press this button. If for some reason my keyboard gets disconnected for a full minute against a quest mob and I lose even more hp, I just have to plug it back and and *gasp* press this button twice. Full HP.

    Dragon Blood heals you for 1/3 of your missing health. Pressing it twice won't fully heal you. If you have the kind of stamina you would need to one shot kill mobs, then you probably don't even have enough magica to use it twice, or just barely since it costs a ton of magica to use it. I have zero points in magica, roughly 2/3rds in stamina and the other third in health, and at VR16 I can only use dragon blood once. It does not give a shield, but it does increase your health regeneration.

    So up to now I've bitten the troll bait.

    I'm done.

    Someone has to call out B.S. braggarts who claim the game is too easy though.

    Dude, you can't even tell what a vet 3 mob looks like

    You're right, vet 3, not lvl 5. Still a low level mob compared to where I am now.

    And he's vet 3 too, or were you not paying attention?

    It doesn't matter, if the player has 500 CP, all toons have 500 CP. Without seeing that, you can't say it's a fair fight.
  • Dahveed
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    Ugh, I didn't realize processing would take this long. Another "6 minutes" according to YouTube, but 15 minutes ago it said 10 minutes so.... 15 more minutes? lol.
  • spoqster
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    spoqster wrote: »
    I'm going to try again, hoping that someone will read this. There is a simple solution!

    Scale all zones and players to max level (just like Wrothgar DLC), and allow players to lower their scaling in exchange for higher drop rates.

    This is good for a few reasons: The technology is already there, the environment stays constant, it's easy to implement, players have a choice of difficulty, players will get rewarded for playing at a higher difficulty setting.

    Wow, this thread has spiralled into an absolute troll fest, discussing whether it is possible to one shot mobs or not. It's a premise with an obvious answer: Of course it's possible if the mobs are sufficiently low enough. No one of you has bothered to take this level difference into account when posting, and yet you waste each other's time talking about it.

    By quoting myself, I am trying one last attempt to steer this thread into a more productive direction. I would gladly appreciate any criticism or feedback regarding my suggestion.

    I think it's quite obvious that the OP's premise is valid (many polls and threads on the forum paint this picture), and the next thing to do is to suggest and discuss different ideas on HOW to implement a difficulty slider, so we can do some conceptual work to provide some inspiration for the game developers.
  • Shunravi
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    jkemmery wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »

    If I do, I press one button and I'm full HP again. It's sad.
    ......

    The point is moot, I don't ever use healing on this character. It's a restriction I've self-imposed to add more challenge (to no avail).

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of how to troll. Contradict yourself in your feeble attempt to make your point.

    I have a heal ability on my main, my Nord DK.

    I do not have heal abilities on my alt, the NB.

    It is not a contradiction. But you lack imagination, so we can forgive you.

    So what is this magical one press and instantly heal yourself button then? Please let me know, I've never heard of it, and I'm all for anything that will improve my game play.

    I can't remember what the ability is called, it's been too long since I've played my DK. I have it on my ability bar. It's an ability that heals me for a very good chunk of HP (like 40% of my bar or something) as well as giving me a shield. Heart of something-or-other? It's a Draconic ability, can't remember, sorry. But I can use it like 3 times in a row even though I haven't spent a single point in Magicka.

    Any time I get in "trouble" (never happens) I just press this button. If for some reason my keyboard gets disconnected for a full minute against a quest mob and I lose even more hp, I just have to plug it back and and *gasp* press this button twice. Full HP.

    Dragon Blood heals you for 1/3 of your missing health. Pressing it twice won't fully heal you. If you have the kind of stamina you would need to one shot kill mobs, then you probably don't even have enough magica to use it twice, or just barely since it costs a ton of magica to use it. I have zero points in magica, roughly 2/3rds in stamina and the other third in health, and at VR16 I can only use dragon blood once. It does not give a shield, but it does increase your health regeneration.

    So up to now I've bitten the troll bait.

    I'm done.

    Someone has to call out B.S. braggarts who claim the game is too easy though.

    Dude, you can't even tell what a vet 3 mob looks like

    You're right, vet 3, not lvl 5. Still a low level mob compared to where I am now.

    And he's vet 3 too, or were you not paying attention?

    It doesn't matter, if the player has 500 CP, all toons have 500 CP. Without seeing that, you can't say it's a fair fight.

    The video was posted April 23 2014. Cp were barely a plan b in ZOS mind at the time. H e has no cp. But I like pointing things out to you, let's keep going with this. I wonder what I should point out next....
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  • Shunravi
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    spoqster wrote: »
    spoqster wrote: »
    I'm going to try again, hoping that someone will read this. There is a simple solution!

    Scale all zones and players to max level (just like Wrothgar DLC), and allow players to lower their scaling in exchange for higher drop rates.

    This is good for a few reasons: The technology is already there, the environment stays constant, it's easy to implement, players have a choice of difficulty, players will get rewarded for playing at a higher difficulty setting.

    Wow, this thread has spiralled into an absolute troll fest, discussing whether it is possible to one shot mobs or not. It's a premise with an obvious answer: Of course it's possible if the mobs are sufficiently low enough. No one of you has bothered to take this level difference into account when posting, and yet you waste each other's time talking about it.

    By quoting myself, I am trying one last attempt to steer this thread into a more productive direction. I would gladly appreciate any criticism or feedback regarding my suggestion.

    I think it's quite obvious that the OP's premise is valid (many polls and threads on the forum paint this picture), and the next thing to do is to suggest and discuss different ideas on HOW to implement a difficulty slider, so we can do some conceptual work to provide some inspiration for the game developers.

    @spoqster we are talking about mobs at lvl.

    But yes, let's actually talk concepts, this is getting tiresome.
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  • Dahveed
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    spoqster wrote: »
    spoqster wrote: »
    I'm going to try again, hoping that someone will read this. There is a simple solution!

    Scale all zones and players to max level (just like Wrothgar DLC), and allow players to lower their scaling in exchange for higher drop rates.

    This is good for a few reasons: The technology is already there, the environment stays constant, it's easy to implement, players have a choice of difficulty, players will get rewarded for playing at a higher difficulty setting.

    Wow, this thread has spiralled into an absolute troll fest, discussing whether it is possible to one shot mobs or not. It's a premise with an obvious answer: Of course it's possible if the mobs are sufficiently low enough. No one of you has bothered to take this level difference into account when posting, and yet you waste each other's time talking about it.

    By quoting myself, I am trying one last attempt to steer this thread into a more productive direction. I would gladly appreciate any criticism or feedback regarding my suggestion.

    I think it's quite obvious that the OP's premise is valid (many polls and threads on the forum paint this picture), and the next thing to do is to suggest and discuss different ideas on HOW to implement a difficulty slider, so we can do some conceptual work to provide some inspiration for the game developers.

    I appreciate your efforts, but unfortunately it is necessary to demonstrate to people like jkemmery that there is indeed a problem.

    My video will demonstrate just how grave it is.

    I understand your suggestion, but it seems to be overly drastic. My suggestion would be quite simple (an optional self-imposed debuff).
  • Shunravi
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    Dahveed wrote: »
    Ugh, I didn't realize processing would take this long. Another "6 minutes" according to YouTube, but 15 minutes ago it said 10 minutes so.... 15 more minutes? lol.

    I hope you opened your cp menu in the video, or you know what his next response will be.
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  • Dahveed
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2x4zAglv3g&feature=youtu.be

    Apologies for the length, I was intending to make it a couple minutes only but went overboard.

    For the time being the quality is very low, I think once it's been on youtube for a while and has been processed more, other quality options will become available.

    You'll see in this video multiple instances of me 1-shotting things either at level with me or 4-5 levels higher than me, while I am naked.

    Sometimes it takes 2 shots, or even (on two occasions) multiple shots, if I don't have first strike, or if I get into "trouble" (lol) and have to use multiple rapid attacks to finish something off.

    The only time you can truly consider the fight "fair" (i.e. the npcs stood a chance) is near the very end, when I attacked 3 level 12 npcs and my opening attack failed. Even then I was never truly in danger, and hell there is always the option to just sprint away.

    Also, a level 7 or 8 naked player should NEVER be able to 1-shot a level 12 mob.
  • Dahveed
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Ugh, I didn't realize processing would take this long. Another "6 minutes" according to YouTube, but 15 minutes ago it said 10 minutes so.... 15 more minutes? lol.

    I hope you opened your cp menu in the video, or you know what his next response will be.

    I literally don't even know HOW to open my cp menu. But you'll see in the video all my different characters, my max level is 47, which (I think?) means by default that I can't have earned any.
  • Shunravi
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    Dahveed wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Ugh, I didn't realize processing would take this long. Another "6 minutes" according to YouTube, but 15 minutes ago it said 10 minutes so.... 15 more minutes? lol.

    I hope you opened your cp menu in the video, or you know what his next response will be.

    I literally don't even know HOW to open my cp menu. But you'll see in the video all my different characters, my max level is 47, which (I think?) means by default that I can't have earned any.
    He'll probably argue something like you deleted a vet lvl main or something. Press =
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  • jkemmery
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    Dahveed wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Ugh, I didn't realize processing would take this long. Another "6 minutes" according to YouTube, but 15 minutes ago it said 10 minutes so.... 15 more minutes? lol.

    I hope you opened your cp menu in the video, or you know what his next response will be.

    I literally don't even know HOW to open my cp menu. But you'll see in the video all my different characters, my max level is 47, which (I think?) means by default that I can't have earned any.

    That's not true at all. If I were to delete my V16, then the rest of my toons would be non vet, but still have all my CP.
  • Shunravi
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    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Ugh, I didn't realize processing would take this long. Another "6 minutes" according to YouTube, but 15 minutes ago it said 10 minutes so.... 15 more minutes? lol.

    I hope you opened your cp menu in the video, or you know what his next response will be.

    I literally don't even know HOW to open my cp menu. But you'll see in the video all my different characters, my max level is 47, which (I think?) means by default that I can't have earned any.

    That's not true at all. If I were to delete my V16, then the rest of my toons would be non vet, but still have all my CP.

    See? SEE??????
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  • spoqster
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    Dahveed wrote: »
    spoqster wrote: »
    spoqster wrote: »
    I'm going to try again, hoping that someone will read this. There is a simple solution!

    Scale all zones and players to max level (just like Wrothgar DLC), and allow players to lower their scaling in exchange for higher drop rates.

    This is good for a few reasons: The technology is already there, the environment stays constant, it's easy to implement, players have a choice of difficulty, players will get rewarded for playing at a higher difficulty setting.

    Wow, this thread has spiralled into an absolute troll fest, discussing whether it is possible to one shot mobs or not. It's a premise with an obvious answer: Of course it's possible if the mobs are sufficiently low enough. No one of you has bothered to take this level difference into account when posting, and yet you waste each other's time talking about it.

    By quoting myself, I am trying one last attempt to steer this thread into a more productive direction. I would gladly appreciate any criticism or feedback regarding my suggestion.

    I think it's quite obvious that the OP's premise is valid (many polls and threads on the forum paint this picture), and the next thing to do is to suggest and discuss different ideas on HOW to implement a difficulty slider, so we can do some conceptual work to provide some inspiration for the game developers.

    I appreciate your efforts, but unfortunately it is necessary to demonstrate to people like jkemmery that there is indeed a problem.

    My video will demonstrate just how grave it is.

    I understand your suggestion, but it seems to be overly drastic. My suggestion would be quite simple (an optional self-imposed debuff).

    Great! Now we're finally talking concepts! :-)

    I see the simplicity of your idea, and I like that part about it. But it feels like putting on a band aid. Let me elaborate.

    In my opinion the problem goes far beyond the game just being too easy. Another big problem (that is related to the difficulty) is that the game locks you into a certain questing path, so it's not an open world game. It's not only that you are supposed to do zone 1 first then zone 2, etc. but that in order to not completely bored to death, you always need to do the lowest quest in your list first, in order to not be horribly over-leveled. So in effect, a player does NOT have the choice of which quest he wants to do, because the game (soft-)forces him to do those low level quests first. It's different if you go into a scaled zone like Wrothgar. All quests are at the same level, and you can actually choose which quest you want to do first.

    My solution will solve all these problems. By scaling the zones and the players up to max level, the world is instantly open. From level 1 on you can do and go anywhere you want to, without out being level-locked out of high and low level zones. Every bit of the game will be accessible and fun.

    In addition, I believe (and many others concur with me) that a higher difficulty should come with some kind of reward, in order to motivate players to try it, and make it a more natural and integral part of the game. Increasing drop rates and experience on higher difficulties will truly integrate the difficulty slider into the gameplay and make it intriguing to use. The developers could even hand out achievements for completing specific zones at specific difficulty settings.

    I've got one more. This system would also make the normal and veteran dungeons interesting again. Currently running a v16 veteran dungeon at v16 is hilariously easy if you are a decent player. By allowing players to take the challenge of running the v16 dungeons at v10 or v5 (in exchange for higher drop rates on the monster helmets, for example) would makes these dungeons interesting again to endgame players.

    All in all, this system would allow the developers, to turn old content into something challenging and interesting again.

    And don't forget that the technology is already in place. They just need to apply the same system they used on Wrothgar.
    Edited by spoqster on March 8, 2016 11:17PM
  • jkemmery
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Ugh, I didn't realize processing would take this long. Another "6 minutes" according to YouTube, but 15 minutes ago it said 10 minutes so.... 15 more minutes? lol.

    I hope you opened your cp menu in the video, or you know what his next response will be.

    I literally don't even know HOW to open my cp menu. But you'll see in the video all my different characters, my max level is 47, which (I think?) means by default that I can't have earned any.

    That's not true at all. If I were to delete my V16, then the rest of my toons would be non vet, but still have all my CP.

    See? SEE??????

    I never underestimate the guile of someone trying to prove something. I've learned that the hard way, unfortunately.
  • Shunravi
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    jkemmery wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Ugh, I didn't realize processing would take this long. Another "6 minutes" according to YouTube, but 15 minutes ago it said 10 minutes so.... 15 more minutes? lol.

    I hope you opened your cp menu in the video, or you know what his next response will be.

    I literally don't even know HOW to open my cp menu. But you'll see in the video all my different characters, my max level is 47, which (I think?) means by default that I can't have earned any.

    That's not true at all. If I were to delete my V16, then the rest of my toons would be non vet, but still have all my CP.

    See? SEE??????

    I never underestimate the guile of someone trying to prove something. I've learned that the hard way, unfortunately.

    And by Kyne you will learn it again here! :P
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  • spoqster
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    jkemmery wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Ugh, I didn't realize processing would take this long. Another "6 minutes" according to YouTube, but 15 minutes ago it said 10 minutes so.... 15 more minutes? lol.

    I hope you opened your cp menu in the video, or you know what his next response will be.

    I literally don't even know HOW to open my cp menu. But you'll see in the video all my different characters, my max level is 47, which (I think?) means by default that I can't have earned any.

    That's not true at all. If I were to delete my V16, then the rest of my toons would be non vet, but still have all my CP.

    See? SEE??????

    I never underestimate the guile of someone trying to prove something. I've learned that the hard way, unfortunately.

    You can't be serious. Stop discussing this nonsense, for God's sake.
  • Anzriel
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    While I agree the game has been made too easy I don't think anything is going to be done, even something that "sounds" simple. (I don't know programming, so I don't know how easy it would be) I think, in the end it's far more likely that things will stay the same and you may just have to acknowledge the game isn't for you and move on. The game has been moving in the direction of needing less and less skill, not more sadly.
  • Dahveed
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Ugh, I didn't realize processing would take this long. Another "6 minutes" according to YouTube, but 15 minutes ago it said 10 minutes so.... 15 more minutes? lol.

    I hope you opened your cp menu in the video, or you know what his next response will be.

    I literally don't even know HOW to open my cp menu. But you'll see in the video all my different characters, my max level is 47, which (I think?) means by default that I can't have earned any.
    He'll probably argue something like you deleted a vet lvl main or something. Press =

    I just went back in to make another video of my CP... but I cannot open the menu. I went to see the hotkey in the controls interface and it is indeed "=", but nothing happens when I press it and I cannot see any option to open this menu. I don't think the menu is even available to me at this time... BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY CP.
  • Shunravi
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    Dahveed wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Dahveed wrote: »
    Ugh, I didn't realize processing would take this long. Another "6 minutes" according to YouTube, but 15 minutes ago it said 10 minutes so.... 15 more minutes? lol.

    I hope you opened your cp menu in the video, or you know what his next response will be.

    I literally don't even know HOW to open my cp menu. But you'll see in the video all my different characters, my max level is 47, which (I think?) means by default that I can't have earned any.
    He'll probably argue something like you deleted a vet lvl main or something. Press =

    I just went back in to make another video of my CP... but I cannot open the menu. I went to see the hotkey in the controls interface and it is indeed "=", but nothing happens when I press it and I cannot see any option to open this menu. I don't think the menu is even available to me at this time... BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY CP.

    hmmm.... dunno. its unfortunately convenient for his argument
    Edited by Shunravi on March 8, 2016 11:32PM
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  • Shunravi
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    im not on yet, but i need to double check if the cp xp bar appears on my lower characters
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