where was the crown sales announced?

NeKryXe · March 2016

i bought yesterday 5500 crowns to be ready to buy the new Thieves Guild DLC Collector's Bundle and there was no discount at all. so... how come there's a discount now? where was this announced? i checked very carefully the news before i paid 35€ for the 5500 crowns. it's obvious that i would never pay 35€ for 5500 crowns a few minutes before the DLC release date if i knew that it would be 21€ a few minutes after the DLC release. i feel really cheated.

UrQuan · March 2016

Copying and pasting my reply to your identical post in another thread:

Any time there's any sale someone's going to be upset because they just bought the thing that went on sale before the sale was announced/started. That's life. You lost out this time, but it happens to everyone at one time or another. There's literally no way for ZOS to ever have a crown sale without someone having just bought crowns immediately before the sale started or immediately before the sale was announced.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · March 2016

You live and you learn. At least now you will know to wait until release day of future DLC to see if there is a crown sale.

Hoylegu · March 2016

A good company would compensate you the difference IMHO.

ADarklore · March 2016

Hoylegu wrote: »

A good company would compensate you the difference IMHO.

Not a 'for profit' company. I've never known an MMO to pre-announce a currency sale... mainly because they know people would save up for the sale instead of spending the regular amount. Thus, they make more money by not announcing it because more people buy at regular rates than sale price.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · March 2016

Hoylegu wrote: »

A good company would compensate you the difference IMHO.

That's not how it works. For instance I work at a video game store (not gamestop) and we are running a sale on consoles. If someone buys a console a day before the sale starts and comes back to learn that we are all of a sudden having a sale then they are sadly out of luck. If exceptions are made then more people will want the same treatment and then you wind up losing money.

UrQuan · March 2016

Hoylegu wrote: »

A good company would compensate you the difference IMHO.

That's actually BS because do you only compensate the people who bought the day before? What about the ones who bought the day before that? Or the day before that? Eventually you get to the point where you have to compensate everyone who ever bought crowns when they weren't on sale. If they start down that road, then they're better off never having any sales on crowns, so that's what will happen. They'll never have any sales on them again, because people who bought before the sale whined about it.

Lysette · March 2016

Yes, that is normal for MMOs - the sale goes live without warning.

ADarklore · March 2016

I bought two 5500 packs yesterday... and I'm not complaining. It just means I'll be buying more of the sale packs this week now too.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · March 2016

ADarklore wrote: »

I bought two 5500 packs yesterday... and I'm not complaining. It just means I'll be buying more of the sale packs this week now too.

See, he's got the right idea. Stock up now while you can!

NeKryXe · March 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

Copying and pasting my reply to your identical post in another thread:

Any time there's any sale someone's going to be upset because they just bought the thing that went on sale before the sale was announced/started. That's life. You lost out this time, but it happens to everyone at one time or another. There's literally no way for ZOS to ever have a crown sale without someone having just bought crowns immediately before the sale started or immediately before the sale was announced.

this happened to me many times before, not only here but also on steam, but never this way.

i waited a lot before i buy the crowns, i carefully read all announcements, and i even searched for a discount on google. after confirming that there was no discount available at the moment and not even announced, i decided to pay for it a few minutes before the release date. only after the release the discount was made ---- this is not a normal situation, not at all --- this is cheating.

i never ever complained for something like this in more than 15 years buying games online, and i've been buying all my games online in the last 15 years. this was not my distraction, i looked for a discount, it's normal to find a discount for a pre-order, not after a few minutes of the release. this is something completely different from what you are defending.

this was wrong!

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · March 2016

NeKryXe wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Copying and pasting my reply to your identical post in another thread:

Any time there's any sale someone's going to be upset because they just bought the thing that went on sale before the sale was announced/started. That's life. You lost out this time, but it happens to everyone at one time or another. There's literally no way for ZOS to ever have a crown sale without someone having just bought crowns immediately before the sale started or immediately before the sale was announced.

this happened to me many times before, not only here but also on steam, but never this way.

i waited a lot before i buy the crowns, i carefully read all announcements, and i even searched for a discount on google. after confirming that there was no discount available at the moment and not even announced, i decided to pay for it a few minutes before the release date. only after the release the discount was made ---- this is not a normal situation, not at all --- this is cheating.

i never ever complained for something like this in more than 15 years buying games online, and i've been buying all my games online in the last 15 years. this was not my distraction, i looked for a discount, it's normal to find a discount for a pre-order, not after a few minutes of the release. this is something completely different from what you are defending.

this was wrong!

Think of it this way. If you were going to run a sale would you A. announce it to everyone and have them wait to get their crowns at a discount and lose out on profit or B. put them on sale without notice so more people buy before the sale goes up and get more profit. Any logical business would choose choice B I would hope. And just as @UrQuan has stated, if you had bought crowns a day before the sale was announced you would probably still feel cheated.

ADarklore · March 2016

NeKryXe wrote: »

i looked for a discount, it's normal to find a discount for a pre-order, not after a few minutes of the release. this is something completely different from what you are defending.

this was wrong!

It wasn't a pre-order, there was no pre-order price, why would you buy ahead of time when you could pay the same price at release? As I've said in my previous comments, other MMOs never 'pre-announce' a currency discount... so tying this currency discount to the price of a DLC is just plain WRONG. Just because buying the discounted currency means you'd effectively spend less to buy the DLC doesn't mean the DLC is directly discounted. They had a Crown sale at Thanksgiving, it was never 'pre-announced' either, so I'm certainly not going to complain that they didn't pre-announce this one either.

NeKryXe · March 2016

i think that the situation here is different, because those who bought crowns in the last days, most probably were preparing to buy the DLC. so, we are talking about something similar to a pre-order.

we are not talking about a few days after the release that they dropped the price, we are talking about a few minutes after the release.

also, it doesn't make me feel better to know that i paid much more for the crowns to get the DLC that i can't even play in the release date. so... i paid more, i paid before, and i couldn't even play it yet.

NeKryXe · March 2016

ADarklore wrote: »

They had a Crown sale at Thanksgiving, it was never 'pre-announced' either, so I'm certainly not going to complain that they didn't pre-announce this one either.

there was no major DLC release on Thanksgiving sales.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · March 2016

NeKryXe wrote: »

i think that the situation here is different, because those who bought crowns in the last days, most probably were preparing to buy the DLC. so, we are talking about something similar to a pre-order.

we are not talking about a few days after the release that they dropped the price, we are talking about a few minutes after the release.

also, it doesn't make me feel better to know that i paid much more for the crowns to get the DLC that i can't even play in the release date. so... i paid more, i paid before, and i couldn't even play it yet.

Ill say this once more. Now you will learn to wait till after the DLC is released to see if there is a crown sale

SanSan · March 2016

Yeah it sucks. I feel like they should announce it. I bought some yesterday too.

DaveMoeDee · March 2016

I still had a pack left over from when I bought 2 5500 packs from the last sale. Since I also have the 1000 from when they switched to TU and the first DLC costs 5500 total, that left me with 6500. If Dark brotherhood costs 2000 like this, maybe I can cover 2 more that and the one other.

If not, I'll wait on the next DLC until there is another sale.

Rule of thumb -- if there was a sale once, there will be a sale again. In other words, never buy 5500 packs full price unless you are okay with giving them the extra money.

Greiver · March 2016

NeKryXe wrote: »

i bought yesterday 5500 crowns to be ready to buy the new Thieves Guild DLC Collector's Bundle and there was no discount at all. so... how come there's a discount now? where was this announced? i checked very carefully the news before i paid 35€ for the 5500 crowns. it's obvious that i would never pay 35€ for 5500 crowns a few minutes before the DLC release date if i knew that it would be 21€ a few minutes after the DLC release. i feel really cheated.

Every dlc has been accompanied by a crown store sale. Really your own fault for buying them when you did. You knew TG dlc was coming.

NeKryXe · March 2016

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Ill say this once more. Now you will learn to wait till after the DLC is released to see if there is a crown sale

yes, i learned that. i just don't understand the point of annoying a customer so that he'll never trust to pay in advance ever again. i learn, obviously, but i don't see what ZOS will earn with my learning.

i own a steam account with 12 years and i learned to trust to pay in advance a long long time ago and i never felt cheated. i have an ESO account for 2 years and i'm learning to never trust ZOS to give them money in advance.

really... i don't understand the point. but ok, i learned.

now i'd love to try the game.

NeKryXe · March 2016

Greiver wrote: »

Every dlc has been accompanied by a crown store sale. Really your own fault for buying them when you did. You knew TG dlc was coming.

i was not aware of that because i never bought any eso dlc in the release day.

SanSan · March 2016

Greiver wrote: »

NeKryXe wrote: »

i bought yesterday 5500 crowns to be ready to buy the new Thieves Guild DLC Collector's Bundle and there was no discount at all. so... how come there's a discount now? where was this announced? i checked very carefully the news before i paid 35€ for the 5500 crowns. it's obvious that i would never pay 35€ for 5500 crowns a few minutes before the DLC release date if i knew that it would be 21€ a few minutes after the DLC release. i feel really cheated.

Every dlc has been accompanied by a crown store sale. Really your own fault for buying them when you did. You knew TG dlc was coming.

You can't say that like the person knew. Not everyone knows.

UrQuan · March 2016

NeKryXe wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Copying and pasting my reply to your identical post in another thread:

Any time there's any sale someone's going to be upset because they just bought the thing that went on sale before the sale was announced/started. That's life. You lost out this time, but it happens to everyone at one time or another. There's literally no way for ZOS to ever have a crown sale without someone having just bought crowns immediately before the sale started or immediately before the sale was announced.

this happened to me many times before, not only here but also on steam, but never this way.

i waited a lot before i buy the crowns, i carefully read all announcements, and i even searched for a discount on google. after confirming that there was no discount available at the moment and not even announced, i decided to pay for it a few minutes before the release date. only after the release the discount was made ---- this is not a normal situation, not at all --- this is cheating.

i never ever complained for something like this in more than 15 years buying games online, and i've been buying all my games online in the last 15 years. this was not my distraction, i looked for a discount, it's normal to find a discount for a pre-order, not after a few minutes of the release. this is something completely different from what you are defending.

this was wrong!

Your sense of entitlement doesn't mean that you're actually entitled to anything. This was a sale. This wasn't a pre-order or anything like it. It's literally exactly what I described, and not what you're describing at all. No matter when they started the sale, or when they announced it there would have been someone whining that they just bought crowns and it's unfair.

The smart thing to do would have been to sub to ESO+ for a month to test out the DLC anyway (while getting 1500 crowns to put towards the DLC if you like it), rather than buying the crowns to pay for it in advance. That's what everyone who isn't already an ESO+ subscriber should do with every DLC (unless you know for sure that you don't want it).

Artjuh90 · March 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

Hoylegu wrote: »

A good company would compensate you the difference IMHO.

That's actually BS because do you only compensate the people who bought the day before? What about the ones who bought the day before that? Or the day before that? Eventually you get to the point where you have to compensate everyone who ever bought crowns when they weren't on sale. If they start down that road, then they're better off never having any sales on crowns, so that's what will happen. They'll never have any sales on them again, because people who bought before the sale whined about it.

well i kinda disagree. this day in the Netherlands at least many software and electronic stores (even with washers and dyers) they actually give you a discount if you just before it wen on sale or it was somewere else differently but that's their marketing stratagy. i don't see were this would help ZOS at all. not in the long term and especially not in the short term

Morbash · March 2016

Does anyone know how long this sale is going to last? I'd really like to buy another 5500 crown pack before it ends.

khele23eb17_ESO · March 2016

I liked how Warframe does it. Every day you log in you get a random reward. In ESO it could be some mats, a page from a motif, a costume, an xp scroll, some pots, some gold, etc. with the more valuable rewards being more rare. One of the rewards in WF was a cash shop currency discount: from 25% to 75% off. And if you logged in every day, youd usually get that reward once a month (which Im pretty sure wasnt a random thing at all :P ). Could work in ESO, too.

NeKryXe · March 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

(unless you know for sure that you don't want it).

i know for sure that i want it, but i also know for sure that i don't enjoy being penalized for being a good customer and pay earlier.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · March 2016

I bought a TV from best buy once. Two days later it went on sale. I went in they gave me the difference in cash.

Artjuh90 · March 2016

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

I liked how Warframe does it. Every day you log in you get a random reward. In ESO it could be some mats, a page from a motif, a costume, an xp scroll, some pots, some gold, etc. with the more valuable rewards being more rare. One of the rewards in WF was a cash shop currency discount: from 25% to 75% and if you logged in every day, youd usually get that reward once a month (which Im pretty sure it wasnt a random thing at all :P ). Could work in ESO, too.

hirelings?

UrQuan · March 2016

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

I bought a TV from best buy once. Two days later it went on sale. I went in they gave me the difference in cash.

That's because merchandise comes with return policies (some of which are more restrictive than others). Crowns don't.

I get the distinct impression that a couple of people in this thread may appear in stories on this site:
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UrQuan · March 2016

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

I liked how Warframe does it. Every day you log in you get a random reward. In ESO it could be some mats, a page from a motif, a costume, an xp scroll, some pots, some gold, etc. with the more valuable rewards being more rare. One of the rewards in WF was a cash shop currency discount: from 25% to 75% and if you logged in every day, youd usually get that reward once a month (which Im pretty sure it wasnt a random thing at all :P ). Could work in ESO, too.

That's a cool idea.