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Complaints regarding Thief Guild DLC [Costumization]
demonaffinity
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Greetings..
Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion
So first and foremost, Id like to say that content wise, this DLC looks fantastic on paper. However, there was 1 specific thing that I was personally looking forward to. More costumization.
So here we had a thief guild DLC and since the beginning of the announcement for it, I thought to myself "I really hope we will get some new fantastic skins to use". Especially since I main nightblade, and I do enjoy roleplay aspect a bit. Skyrim had some really sinister thief outfits, so I had really hoped ESO would pickup on it, and provide us some innovation in thief appearances.
What did we get? A basic, PIRATE outfit in the crownstore. Not a creative, leather set fit for a badass thief. Nope, PIRATE OUTFITS. So, we will get some thief guild armor from quests/dungeons? So I basically HAVE to use the gear that I find to be able to utilize the new skins? Although the stats will most likely not be suitable for me? Well isnt that just great.
This might sound unreasonable to many of you, but we all have different values in games. I enjoy costumization, and in an MMO, there needs to be some freedom to the roleplaying aspect, as well as costumization. We are suppossed to make our own hero the way we want him/her. And ESO is extremely limited.
Why can't we use the skins of dungeon gear? Why are mostly all the crownstore outfits so damn basic and void of creativity and innovation? Why are there so many "essential" gear pieces out there, with unavailable skin change? This is unacceptable for an MMO in 2016 in my opinion.
Im sure I will enjoy the Thief Guild DLC, but so far, I'm pretty damn disappointed. I was really looking forward to some awesome thief outfits, but seeing as there are no motifs and only a basic pirate outfit in the crownstore, chances are that I wont be able to use ANY OF THEM, unless the stats are exactly what I need.
/rant.
Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion
So first and foremost, Id like to say that content wise, this DLC looks fantastic on paper. However, there was 1 specific thing that I was personally looking forward to. More costumization.
So here we had a thief guild DLC and since the beginning of the announcement for it, I thought to myself "I really hope we will get some new fantastic skins to use". Especially since I main nightblade, and I do enjoy roleplay aspect a bit. Skyrim had some really sinister thief outfits, so I had really hoped ESO would pickup on it, and provide us some innovation in thief appearances.
What did we get? A basic, PIRATE outfit in the crownstore. Not a creative, leather set fit for a badass thief. Nope, PIRATE OUTFITS. So, we will get some thief guild armor from quests/dungeons? So I basically HAVE to use the gear that I find to be able to utilize the new skins? Although the stats will most likely not be suitable for me? Well isnt that just great.
This might sound unreasonable to many of you, but we all have different values in games. I enjoy costumization, and in an MMO, there needs to be some freedom to the roleplaying aspect, as well as costumization. We are suppossed to make our own hero the way we want him/her. And ESO is extremely limited.
Why can't we use the skins of dungeon gear? Why are mostly all the crownstore outfits so damn basic and void of creativity and innovation? Why are there so many "essential" gear pieces out there, with unavailable skin change? This is unacceptable for an MMO in 2016 in my opinion.
Im sure I will enjoy the Thief Guild DLC, but so far, I'm pretty damn disappointed. I was really looking forward to some awesome thief outfits, but seeing as there are no motifs and only a basic pirate outfit in the crownstore, chances are that I wont be able to use ANY OF THEM, unless the stats are exactly what I need.
/rant.
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dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭There's way more to wear in this DLC than just the costume you can buy in the crown store, btw. You just need to earn them in-game.1 -
demonaffinity✭✭✭
If you rely on crafted gear, you can only get certain styles from motifs. So the new thief sets wont be available appearance wise, to ANYONE unless they use that specific gear, which means the stats has to be suitable for them.dimensional wrote: »There's way more to wear in this DLC than just the costume you can buy in the crown store, btw. You just need to earn them in-game.0 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭dimensional wrote: »There's way more to wear in this DLC than just the costume you can buy in the crown store, btw. You just need to earn them in-game.
^ This. You get one of them pretty darn early in the questline too.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord2 -
demonaffinity✭✭✭dimensional wrote: »
I stand corrected then, but it doesnt change the fact that there is a lot of dungeon gear that we cant restyle. Also, I hope they made more than just 1 style for the entire DLC. So 1 motif doesnt change much.Edited by demonaffinity on March 7, 2016 5:28PM0 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭Every game has limitations, just gotta learn to accept it. And there's a lot more than just that motif I linked to offered by this DLC, as MissBiz mentioned. IMO there's no reason to complain.0 -
demonaffinity✭✭✭
I don't need to accept anything. I activately support ESO by being ESO Plus, so im going to voice my opinion on what could be better. If no one did that, the game couldnt improve.dimensional wrote: »Every game has limitations, just gotta learn to accept it. And there's a lot more than just that motif I linked to offered by this DLC, as MissBiz mentioned. IMO there's no reason to complain.0 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭LOL ok. Continue not accepting reality but having to deal with it anyway. Your complaint was seriously misinformed and wrong, they don't need feedback from people like you IMO.Edited by dimensional on March 7, 2016 5:42PM0 -
demonaffinity✭✭✭dimensional wrote: »LOL ok. Continue not accepting reality but having to deal with it anyway. Your complaint was seriously misinformed and wrong, they don't need feedback from people like you IMO.
I was misinformed, but my feedback is still relevant.Also the Mercenary Motif is not from the Thief Guild.Edited by demonaffinity on March 7, 2016 5:54PM0 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭Completely irrelevant on this topic precisely *because* you were misinformed. Reminds me of the AoE caps fiasco. A poll on here said 80% and higher players didn't want it but they added them anyway. Being informed is crucial to supplying relevant feedback. And who the hell mentioned anything about Mercenary motif? You get the outlaw motif which was linked to you, as well as THREE costumes just from playing the game. Learn more about this game that you subscribe to for the love of god.Edited by dimensional on March 7, 2016 5:55PM0 -
demonaffinity✭✭✭dimensional wrote: »Completely irrelevant on this topic precisely *because* you were misinformed. Reminds me of the AoE caps fiasco. A poll on here said 80% and higher players didn't want it but they added them anyway. Being informed is crucial to supplying relevant feedback. And who the hell mentioned anything about Mercenary motif? You get the outlaw motif which was linked to you, as well as THREE costumes just from playing the game. Learn more about this game that you subscribe to for the love of god.
Sorry I cant hear you over the sound of your own imperfection.
In all seriousness though, despite my complaining/ranting, I made some arguments that has not been addressed by anyone yet. You said there was indeed a motif added, but everything else I said still stands. So if you want to disregard my entire thread because I jumped to conlussion about something, then that's your problem.Edited by demonaffinity on March 7, 2016 6:09PM0 -
Xendyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭New Crafting Motifs
This update introduces a host of new crafting motifs to learn:
Outlaw: Found in the delves and world bosses of Hew’s Bane from the Thieves Guild DLC game pack
Trinimac: Received from Orsinium Daily Delve quests
Malacath: Received from Orsinium Daily World Boss quests
Alliance Motifs: Found in chests within Cyrodiil and Imperial City
Soul-Shriven: Received from completing the Cadwell’s Silver quest (anyone who has already completed this quest will receive this style)
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dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭demonaffinity wrote: »So if you want to disregard my entire thread because I jumped to conlussion about something, then that's your problem.
More like everyone will disregard this thread, and it seems more like your problem than mine
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Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭demonaffinity wrote: »dimensional wrote: »LOL ok. Continue not accepting reality but having to deal with it anyway. Your complaint was seriously misinformed and wrong, they don't need feedback from people like you IMO.
I was misinformed, but my feedback is still relevant.Also the Mercenary Motif is not from the Thief Guild.
The motif isnt Mercenary.It is called the "Outlaw" motif.0 -
remilafo✭✭✭✭You had an opportunity to give your opinion on the PTS forums in the last month. There is no going back now, you are too late to vote..0 -
Twilix01✭✭✭demonaffinity wrote: »dimensional wrote: »
I stand corrected then, but it doesnt change the fact that there is a lot of dungeon gear that we cant restyle. Also, I hope they made more than just 1 style for the entire DLC. So 1 motif doesnt change much.
There's like, seven new styles now. Outlaw, Soul Shriven (Earned from Cadwell's Silver), Malacath/Trinimac (Earned from Wrothgar world boss and delve dailes), the three imperial city alliance styles (looted from chests in cyrodiil and imperial city).
Do your research.0