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Why can't we upgrade jewelry?

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So, now that finally I have everything at Legendary quality, I am wondering why can't we upgrade our Necklace+Rings to gold? They can't be upgraded at all, why?
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  • GreenGhostMan
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    siddique wrote: »
    So, now that finally I have everything at Legendary quality, I am wondering why can't we upgrade our Necklace+Rings to gold? They can't be upgraded at all, why?

    I've always wondered why there isn't jewelry crafting as well. Maybe something they will add in the future?
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  • Volkodav
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    Well,you can keep enchanting it as your levels get higher.Use higher level glyphs for more damage,or whatever.
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    And what do you do when you have them at v16 with appropriate glyphs? Still wish there was a way to make them gold too. :|
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  • arcantonias
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    I think only trial rewards will give you gold jewelry. I got super lucky and got a gold arcane winterborn pendant before they messed all that up from vmsa.
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    I would be good with jewellery crafting. That would be nice.
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    I think only trial rewards will give you gold jewelry. I got super lucky and got a gold arcane winterborn pendant before they messed all that up from vmsa.

    Oh? I did not know that, interesting!
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Well,you can keep enchanting it as your levels get higher.Use higher level glyphs for more damage,or whatever.

    Yep. I always re-enchant jewelry with Kuta, no matter which quality (blue, purple etc) the item is, it's always the best result and not lowered in any way.

    I remember the times where we could NOT re-enchant items, not jewelry and not any other gear. I'm glad they changed it.

    Though I'm still waiting for jewelry crafting..
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  • starkerealm
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    siddique wrote: »
    So, now that finally I have everything at Legendary quality, I am wondering why can't we upgrade our Necklace+Rings to gold? They can't be upgraded at all, why?

    I've always wondered why there isn't jewelry crafting as well. Maybe something they will add in the future?

    Well, they took it out in the past.
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    siddique wrote: »
    So, now that finally I have everything at Legendary quality, I am wondering why can't we upgrade our Necklace+Rings to gold? They can't be upgraded at all, why?

    I've always wondered why there isn't jewelry crafting as well. Maybe something they will add in the future?

    Well, they took it out in the past.

    Really? I dont remember there being any jewelry crafting in ESO.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    siddique wrote: »
    So, now that finally I have everything at Legendary quality, I am wondering why can't we upgrade our Necklace+Rings to gold? They can't be upgraded at all, why?

    I've always wondered why there isn't jewelry crafting as well. Maybe something they will add in the future?

    Well, they took it out in the past.

    Really? I dont remember there being any jewelry crafting in ESO.

    ZOS nerfed it
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  • starkerealm
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    siddique wrote: »
    So, now that finally I have everything at Legendary quality, I am wondering why can't we upgrade our Necklace+Rings to gold? They can't be upgraded at all, why?

    I've always wondered why there isn't jewelry crafting as well. Maybe something they will add in the future?

    Well, they took it out in the past.

    Really? I dont remember there being any jewelry crafting in ESO.

    It was taken out during the very early closed betas. You'd need to ask one of the Psijic testers for details, if you're curious.
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    siddique wrote: »
    So, now that finally I have everything at Legendary quality, I am wondering why can't we upgrade our Necklace+Rings to gold? They can't be upgraded at all, why?

    I've always wondered why there isn't jewelry crafting as well. Maybe something they will add in the future?

    Well, they took it out in the past.

    Really? I dont remember there being any jewelry crafting in ESO.

    ZOS nerfed it

    When? I've been ingame since the beginning,also in the betas and I didnt realize this at all. Perhaps I just didnt attempt to create any.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    siddique wrote: »
    So, now that finally I have everything at Legendary quality, I am wondering why can't we upgrade our Necklace+Rings to gold? They can't be upgraded at all, why?

    I've always wondered why there isn't jewelry crafting as well. Maybe something they will add in the future?

    Well, they took it out in the past.

    Really? I dont remember there being any jewelry crafting in ESO.

    ZOS nerfed it

    When? I've been ingame since the beginning,also in the betas and I didnt realize this at all. Perhaps I just didnt attempt to create any.

    From what I know, it was a separate crafting station. Honestly, you'd be better off trying to get the details out of @SirAndy @Nestor or maybe @Attorneyatlawl . They would have seen the system before it was taken out.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    siddique wrote: »
    So, now that finally I have everything at Legendary quality, I am wondering why can't we upgrade our Necklace+Rings to gold? They can't be upgraded at all, why?

    I've always wondered why there isn't jewelry crafting as well. Maybe something they will add in the future?

    Well, they took it out in the past.

    Really? I dont remember there being any jewelry crafting in ESO.

    ZOS nerfed it

    When? I've been ingame since the beginning,also in the betas and I didnt realize this at all. Perhaps I just didnt attempt to create any.

    From what I know, it was a separate crafting station. Honestly, you'd be better off trying to get the details out of @SirAndy @Nestor or maybe @Attorneyatlawl . They would have seen the system before it was taken out.

    How would they have seen the system? Were they part of the devs? Not being snarky or anything,really.I am interested in it now. :}
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    siddique wrote: »
    So, now that finally I have everything at Legendary quality, I am wondering why can't we upgrade our Necklace+Rings to gold? They can't be upgraded at all, why?

    I've always wondered why there isn't jewelry crafting as well. Maybe something they will add in the future?

    Well, they took it out in the past.

    Really? I dont remember there being any jewelry crafting in ESO.

    ZOS nerfed it

    When? I've been ingame since the beginning,also in the betas and I didnt realize this at all. Perhaps I just didnt attempt to create any.

    From what I know, it was a separate crafting station. Honestly, you'd be better off trying to get the details out of @SirAndy @Nestor or maybe @Attorneyatlawl . They would have seen the system before it was taken out.

    How would they have seen the system? Were they part of the devs? Not being snarky or anything,really.I am interested in it now. :}

    The first couple waves of closed beta testers were nicknamed "The Psijic Order" after the mages in setting. I don't know who all was in, but I know those three were all members. I got in with the stress test betas near launch, so I never saw a lot of the early cut content. But, I've seen comments about it on the boards since launch. Jewelry crafting was something that was in very early and then got cut. I have no idea why it was removed, though.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    How would they have seen the system? Were they part of the devs? Not being snarky or anything,really.I am interested in it now. :}

    Not devs but part of the super secret beta tester group called "The Psijic Order".

    While everyone else was playing beta weekends, we had out own dedicated beta server with 24/7 access running a different game version. That server was re-purposed as the PTS server at launch.


    However, i don't recall being able to craft jewelry. Maybe i simply forgot, it's been almost 3 years and i'm foggy on some of the details.
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    How would they have seen the system? Were they part of the devs? Not being snarky or anything,really.I am interested in it now. :}

    Not devs but part of the super secret beta tester group called "The Psijic Order".

    While everyone else was playing beta weekends, we had out own dedicated beta server with 24/7 access running a different game version. That server was re-purposed as the PTS server at launch.


    However, i don't recall being able to craft jewelry. Maybe i simply forgot, it's been almost 3 years and i'm foggy on some of the details.
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    Oh,how absolutely cool! You lucky sod you! XD
    I am with you in that I dont remember ever seeing jewelry crafting.I was only in on the very first betas,when they sent me the invites,and it wasnt in those then.
    Edited by Volkodav on February 29, 2016 11:15PM
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    SirAndy wrote: »

    However, i don't recall being able to craft jewelry. Maybe i simply forgot, it's been almost 3 years and i'm foggy on some of the details.
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    For what it's worth, I've been told it was there, but never really heard the details either.
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    My guess is that it was removed early on due to space limitations. And I can see why, with Woodworking, Clothing, enchanting and blacksmithing, I'm begging for space at every turn, and quite frequently have to log over to some bankers just to remove some of the items and store them there, and I haven't started on alchemy and provisioning yet.

    I wouldn't mind them introduce jewelcrafting as a profession, having prospecting from raw ores for gems and such, but they first have to sort out the extreme shortage of bank space, perhaps do as in Guild wars 2 and have a separate bank for crafting materials.
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    I'll go with SirAndy on this one,guys.Until I can find something to the contrary.It would be interesting to ask one of the devs.Maybe Gina might know.
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    I personally don't know and thing is jewelry crafting was in very early beta from what I heard and again I personally don't know why it was removed.

    But the only reason I can think why it was removed and maybe not have been put back in yet is cause it would be kinda hard to balanced with drops set and crafted sets. As we all know ZOS for some reason thinks crafted sets are more OP than dropped and monster sets and jewelry crafting would have gave a full 10 slots for crafted gear with out the use of weapons. That will allow players t have 2 crafted sets that they could upgrade to legendary which again could cause some builds to be OP cause it would allow say some one to have magnus gift and armor of the seducer or law of julions and seducer and so on. Which would cause the farmers who cry about their farming to say "crafted sets OP nerf them" again.

    Like don't get me wrong I am all for jewelry crafting would allow me to use say whitestrakes and armor master or one of those combos boosting my tanking alot but at the same time it could be kinda OP cause 2 full 5 piece sets active at once would allow a player to have massive amount of power and not even at 5 pieces players could mix and match for 2 or 3 piece bonuses from set and so on.

    So long story short crafted jewelry is a feature I do want int he game but it will be a slippery slop in terms of balancing cause of the farmers QQ why else does VR16 gear cost 10X of VR15..... well soon to be CP160 gear.
  • Volkodav
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    Everyone keeps saying "from what I heard",but no one has actually said they know it was ingame so far.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Everyone keeps saying "from what I heard",but no one has actually said they know it was ingame so far.

    That's cause it was in way early beta of ESO nearly 3 or 4 years ago. Not many beta players back than and even then the ones who were beta probably don't even remember it.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Everyone keeps saying "from what I heard",but no one has actually said they know it was ingame so far.

    That's cause it was in way early beta of ESO nearly 3 or 4 years ago. Not many beta players back than and even then the ones who were beta probably don't even remember it.

    I'm one of those early beta players.Mind you I wasnt one of those secret Psijiic ones,but I was in on the first ones and I never saw crafting of jewelry then.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    I'm one of those early beta players.Mind you I wasnt one of those secret Psijiic ones,but I was in on the first ones and I never saw crafting of jewelry then.

    Okay, so, honest question, because we've got similar join dates. When you say you were in some of the early betas, you're talking... when? 2013 or 2014? Because, as I recall, closed betas started in 2013.

    There were five or six months of closed beta before the first stress test. Then there were a couple sequential stress tests, which I was in, and then release. But, the Psijiics had been testing for months before I got anywhere near the game. I suspect the same is true for you, no offense.

    Incidentally, I'm trying to run down the source of the jewelry crafting station rumor, but so far I've got nothing.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    I'm one of those early beta players.Mind you I wasnt one of those secret Psijiic ones,but I was in on the first ones and I never saw crafting of jewelry then.

    Okay, so, honest question, because we've got similar join dates. When you say you were in some of the early betas, you're talking... when? 2013 or 2014? Because, as I recall, closed betas started in 2013.

    There were five or six months of closed beta before the first stress test. Then there were a couple sequential stress tests, which I was in, and then release. But, the Psijiics had been testing for months before I got anywhere near the game. I suspect the same is true for you, no offense.

    Incidentally, I'm trying to run down the source of the jewelry crafting station rumor, but so far I've got nothing.

    I cant remember the dates,but I received my first invite in 2013.Please dont think I am trying to be smart arse about the jewelry crafting.I was just wondering why I hadnt seen in when I was ingame back then.
    Edited by Volkodav on March 1, 2016 1:30AM
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    I did find this from @Nestor in an old thread.
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    While ESOHead has a lot of good information, their database is not the most up to date that is out there.

    We used to have Jewelry Crafting but it was taken out in early beta and has not come back for some reason.

    If I can trust @SirAndy and @Nestor 's join dates to indicate when they started testing (roughly). That suggests that Jewely crafting was pulled sometime between March and July of 2013. Assuming SirAndy hasn't just forgotten about it, and it really didn't exist by the time he got in.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    I cant remember the dates,but I received my first invite in 2013.Please dont think I am trying to be snart arse about the jewelry crafting.I was just wondering why I hadnt seen in when I was ingame back then.

    Yeah, no, I'm honestly not sure when it was removed. So, I'm trying to construct a timeline as best I can.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    I cant remember the dates,but I received my first invite in 2013.Please dont think I am trying to be snart arse about the jewelry crafting.I was just wondering why I hadnt seen in when I was ingame back then.

    Yeah, no, I'm honestly not sure when it was removed. So, I'm trying to construct a timeline as best I can.

    Please,post it if you can find it.It would be nice to know,if only so I dont make the mistake of telling anyone else there never was any. XD
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    I cant remember the dates,but I received my first invite in 2013.Please dont think I am trying to be snart arse about the jewelry crafting.I was just wondering why I hadnt seen in when I was ingame back then.

    Yeah, no, I'm honestly not sure when it was removed. So, I'm trying to construct a timeline as best I can.

    Please,post it if you can find it.It would be nice to know,if only so I dont make the mistake of telling anyone else there never was any. XD

    The most concrete thing I've got, at the moment is, Nestor's quote above. Which comes out of this thread.

    Incidentally, the ESOHead listing they're referencing can be found here.

    At this point, I'd be inclined to think that's decent evidence to say, "yes, at some point in time this system did exist." And, it's not too unreasonable to assume that it was removed during the early closed betas. Probably before July 2013. Because he phrased it as "we used to have" instead of "I've been told," I'm inclined to think he actually saw the system first hand.

    I can keep poking around a little more, but I think, in this case, it'll be more constructive to wait for Nestor, or another of the early Psijics to weigh in... if any are willing to.

    EDIT: Or I could egregiously derp up the URL tags, that's an option too.
    Edited by starkerealm on March 1, 2016 1:40AM
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