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What's keeping me from making an alt

Espresso
Espresso
Lore books

I can't level another character to Mage Guild 10

I'll make a character, see a Lorebook and justnope.jpg logoff and go back to my main.
  • Espresso
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    Why can't they make those and even possibly skyshards universal?
  • wayfarerx
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    I've never really had an issue with lorebooks honestly. Takes maybe 20 minutes to clear a zone, although that's on PC with the lorebook addon. If you mix it in with the other leveling tasks (skyshards / delves / dolmens / main quest) it doesn't really seem to add much extra time at all.
    @wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion
  • llllADBllll
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    The skyshard and lore book grind is real. I would love alts but it's bad enough running the same quests again without running all over picking up lorebooks and skyshards too. Once you've got Cadwells Gold you should get either a batch of skill points on each alt or mage guild and fighters guild already maxed.
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  • WalkingLegacy
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    I agree, running around gathering all the little things missed is aggravating and not worthy of my time.

    Exactly why I can't level an alt.
  • AlnilamE
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    Skyards and lorebooks are one of the reasons why I DO make alts.

    But then, I don't make an alt expecting them to hit max level in a week.
    The Moot Councillor
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Get the Lorebooks and Skyshards addon. I can understand the sentiment (I have a lot of characters) but in reality you don't actually need all the skillpoints available to you. If you know exactly what kind of build you want for a character you can outfit them pretty easily with very minimal effort. The difficulty begins if you are a completionist and want to unlock everything, which is more or less what I've done with my Dodge Hopper character. I do make it a point to always have skills to learn when I turn missions in on every character. Its just too easy to do, and there are some good addons for this as well that let you save a skill bar loadout so you can quickly work on multiple lines at once. To give you an idea of how much I've learned on the Dodge character, I'm almost done learning all skills all morphs (I think). It will be a great sigh of relief when I complete that project.
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    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
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  • The_Sadist
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    Lore books and whatnot were never my issue, the lack of a shared achievement system was what left me frustrated.
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  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    The_Sadist wrote: »
    Lore books and whatnot were never my issue, the lack of a shared achievement system was what left me frustrated.

    Heh I wish it was a shared achievement system between my characters.
  • AshTal
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    I wish they made a lot of things universal so I could create new characters just for the story and not have to be lore book hunting, sky shard hunting and completing boring quests for titles.
  • KingYogi415
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    I have not even done the lorebook grind once.
    Can we please get an lorebook add on on consoles.
  • Malmai
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    Espresso wrote: »
    Lore books

    I can't level another character to Mage Guild 10

    I'll make a character, see a Lorebook and justnope.jpg logoff and go back to my main.

    You have to be joking...
  • Stranglehands
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    You only want meteor on a magicka build anyway, make a stamina alt
    Or make a templar and just use solar disturbance instead

    i've only ever bothered to get mages guild rank 10 on one of my alts so far and never had any problems. most of the higher level mages guild skills are complete junk (especially the passives)
    Edited by Stranglehands on February 27, 2016 8:45AM
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  • LiquidSchwartz
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    Skyards and lorebooks are one of the reasons why I DO make alts.

    But then, I don't make an alt expecting them to hit max level in a week.

    I cans level an alt to v16 in a week it's just the books shards and undaunted grind that sucks
    May the Schwartz be with you.
    EP/XB1/NA

  • Mojmir
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    You only want meteor on a magicka build anyway, make a stamina alt
    Or make a templar and just use solar disturbance instead

    i've only ever bothered to get mages guild rank 10 on one of my alts so far and never had any problems. most of the higher level mages guild skills are complete junk (especially the passives)

    Lol? Entropy?inner light?
  • Stranglehands
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    Entropy is rank 4, magelight is rank 2
    Edited by Stranglehands on February 27, 2016 8:55AM
    .kcoR gnillaF si noitadnuoF esohw ETIYREP oT
  • Mojmir
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    Entropy is rank 4, magelight is rank 2

    But you still need to raise the skill line.
  • RoamingRiverElk
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    It probably took me six hours to run through the main quest on a good pve build character just to get access to the next zone where I'd then hunt for the rest of the lorebooks. The grind is awful indeed...

    1-50
    v1-v16
    Magicka skills
    Stamina skills
    Undaunted
    Main quest -> Lorebooks -> Meteor
    Skill points
    Alliance War passives, and especially, Vigor and Magicka Detonation

    Takes forever...
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  • acw37162
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    Lore books are cake compared to rally, caltrops, and magica det.

    I tired to level and alt through non vet pvp, it's about 70 - 80 vet pvp players rolling 400 - 500 CP on nightblades and sorcs it is quite honestly more disgusting the the *** talking, exploit heavy, tea bagging, Zerg fest that is vet PVP.

    Nothing in this game drives me take breaks for a few weeks at time from this game then the PVP.

    Some of it because of the lag and other technical things that make it hard to play.

    Mostly though it's because of the players I've never found a game with PVP where it didn't degenerate into a giant *** fest.

    I've had like three positive memorable PVP experiences and like 250 plus experiences that range from bad to just downright terrible.

    So yeah lorebooks are cake.
    Edited by acw37162 on February 27, 2016 9:17AM
  • Kozer
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    wayfarerx wrote: »
    I've never really had an issue with lorebooks honestly. Takes maybe 20 minutes to clear a zone, although that's on PC with the lorebook addon. If you mix it in with the other leveling tasks (skyshards / delves / dolmens / main quest) it doesn't really seem to add much extra time at all.

    On the xbox...I made an alt...And turned right back around.

    I do not want to go running all over again collecting all the sky shards and books.
    Heck to the hell no.

    I am perfectly fine grinding away at getting AP.
    I just do not want to have to run around every zone again finding this skyshard and that lorebook. Its annoying. Especially since I have to look up a map for them on my phone then figure out which I am lacking.

    The only addons I ask for the xbox is that lorebook and skyshard one. And once that shows AP ticks.
    Maybe one that shows actual combat numbers.
  • Brrrofski
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    I've got meteor on 5 toons :(

    On console :(

    No addons :(

    Using dulfy on my tablet as my only guide :(

    Honestly though, it's not that bad. Get what you come across while questing (or skyshards hunting if you're grinding). Whatever is left, put some music on and just go around getting them.

    Got it from halfway through 4 to max in like 2 and a half hours the other night. With music on, it flew by.
  • BRogueNZ
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    all that plus questing and/or grinding both bore me to tears. once v1-16 has gone I might but until then meh.
  • Didgerion
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    Making an alt is boring and time consuming - it does not add value to ESO game.
    You have to do
    - Same quests with the same endings,
    - Undaunted/Fighte/Mages guild start over from scratch
    - Achievements - start over
    - PVP skill trees - start over
    - Crafting - start over


    It is a miracle that CPs are account based.

    Edited by Didgerion on February 27, 2016 11:17AM
  • Volkodav
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    I do the great Lore Book hunt al lthe time.I love finding them.Even with a new Alt.
  • Moonshadow66
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    Espresso wrote: »
    Lore books

    I can't level another character to Mage Guild 10

    I'll make a character, see a Lorebook and justnope.jpg logoff and go back to my main.

    Can I have your alt-slots?^^
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    Lady Olivieri - Breton Nightblade VR16, EP, Tamriel Hero | Donna Demnevanni - Breton Templar VR16, DC, Tamriel Hero
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  • Ethromelb14_ESO
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    Espresso wrote: »
    Lore books

    I can't level another character to Mage Guild 10

    I'll make a character, see a Lorebook and justnope.jpg logoff and go back to my main.

    LOL... IMO That is the most difficult thing in the game. I have 8 leveled up characters, and every time I started one, all I dreaded was leveling up the Mage Guild skill line. The nightmares ...

    I think they should have a section where that guy with the white beard reads them to you in his cool emphatic voice.
    Edited by Ethromelb14_ESO on February 27, 2016 5:00PM
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  • olsborg
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    Its good doing mages guild and fighters guild and undaunted etc on one char , but on the rest of them, no thanks, no surprise there just another grind I could live without.

    PC EU
    PvP only
  • Tandor
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    Skyards and lorebooks are one of the reasons why I DO make alts.

    But then, I don't make an alt expecting them to hit max level in a week.

    This.

    I also don't make alts expecting them to ride on a "main" character's coat-tails. I hate account-based rewards and play alts so that they can earn everything for themselves.
  • mtwiggz
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    If you run around and complete actual sets of books the grind isn't all that bad. No where near as bad as actually leveling the alt through VR levels.
  • TheShadowScout
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    I have eight characters. I got three of them to mages guild 10 without even trying, just picking up the lorebooks I stumble over in course of questing through cadwells. Two more are at 9, and the rest are getting there as well, without me -ever- spending a minute looking for lorebooks specifically.

    What was the discussion about again? :tongue:;)
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