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  • WalkingLegacy
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    Another group content complaint in an MMO, sigh.
  • Metamon
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    I'm pretty sure I was at the right spot. Pressure plates, 3 creatures, two of each creature. I killed a boss right next to it. I can't afford to just throw 5k at people, I don't have that kind of gold ingame, even at VR12. The reason I have to Solo everything was stated earlier in the thread, I tried to group in the past and learned my lesson.

    It's not language barriers, all the people that respond to me spoke in English and made it very clear I was their S a Giggles for the night
  • WalkingLegacy
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    Metamon wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure I was at the right spot. Pressure plates, 3 creatures, two of each creature. I killed a boss right next to it. I can't afford to just throw 5k at people, I don't have that kind of gold ingame, even at VR12. The reason I have to Solo everything was stated earlier in the thread, I tried to group in the past and learned my lesson.

    It's not language barriers, all the people that respond to me spoke in English and made it very clear I was their S a Giggles for the night

    You're not MMOing very good.
  • Metamon
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    Not having gold somehow means i'm bad?

    I spend all my gold on materials and tempers
  • WalkingLegacy
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    Metamon wrote: »
    Not having gold somehow means i'm bad?

    I spend all my gold on materials and tempers

    No, I'm saying you might be in the wrong genre of gaming. MMO gaming doesn't sound like your cup of tea.
    Edited by WalkingLegacy on February 25, 2016 11:41AM
  • Xendyn
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    Oddly enough, I just ran into this yesterday on my 5th Vr through there and was actually thinking the same thing. I was fortunate that someone came by and was willing to help when I asked. I remember well when you didn't dare go into one of those without a group but that is no longer the case.

    The point really is that ZOS has made the game mostly soloable, including Public Dungeons and their "Group" challenges.
    Since ZOS chose to go that route, they need to finish the job and take away these leftover mechanics in a couple of places (here and the couple of Craglorn quests that have similar requirements).

    Yes, they were originally intended as group content.
    No, they no longer Are group content, and they need to be changed so that they can be completed.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno it would be nice if this was brought to the attention of the Devs.
    Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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  • WalkingLegacy
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    Xendyn wrote: »
    Oddly enough, I just ran into this yesterday on my 5th Vr through there and was actually thinking the same thing. I was fortunate that someone came by and was willing to help when I asked. I remember well when you didn't dare go into one of those without a group but that is no longer the case.

    The point really is that ZOS has made the game mostly soloable, including Public Dungeons and their "Group" challenges.
    Since ZOS chose to go that route, they need to finish the job and take away these leftover mechanics in a couple of places (here and the couple of Craglorn quests that have similar requirements).

    Yes, they were originally intended as group content.
    No, they no longer Are group content, and they need to be changed so that they can be completed.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno it would be nice if this was brought to the attention of the Devs.

    No it wouldn't be nice. It would be nice if they could go back and give incentive for others helping. This game does not have much group content left and solo complainers in an MMO is getting tiresome.

  • Marrtha
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Marrtha wrote: »
    Metamon wrote: »
    I'm well aware it's an mmo, doesn't mean I need to grasp at straws and hope that I find someone that's A- Got the time, B- Competent, C- Not a complete troll

    When did people get THAT bad impression from the other ESO players?

    But yeah, this is an MMO, other players will be required for certain things, so you either find a nice guild, or you don't and miss out on certain things. That's the way of it, unfortunately.

    Just look at most posts on the forums and you'll understand why people have THAT bad an impression of ESO players. As a community we don't really help one another, we'd rather tell each other to L2P then say "hey, you might need x and y, if you like there is a guide here..."

    Forums are a place for people to vent usually. People have a better impression of the game if they never lurk on the game's forums. Just saying. I mean, I don't even play ESO anymore but post here because I am bored.
    I do agree that there are toxic players but the OP must have had insane bad luck or done something real bad to *** people off in such a manner. And that he 'learned his lesson' is... It just doesn't fit here, ok? It's an MMO, there will always be a FACTOR of PEOPLE and how they behave. Some can make your day, the others try to ruin it.
    Metamon wrote: »
    I don't mind missing out on Group content, eg- Trials, etc. What I do mind is getting 99% of the Achievements in one line and having one left.

    Well too bad that there is an achievement that requires co-operation.
    I do not support any change for this achievement. I have also done all but that one and it has been a thorn in my eye, but oh well, not that it is hard to find people, it's just that I had better things to do than bother with such things. I had a friend complete it and promise that they'd help me but I just never initated.

    And yes, they can still be relevant group content while leveling. Only issue I see is veterans coming in and storming through everything because they noticed they missed an ach.
    Use @Marrtha when replying!
  • Xendyn
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    Xendyn wrote: »
    Oddly enough, I just ran into this yesterday on my 5th Vr through there and was actually thinking the same thing. I was fortunate that someone came by and was willing to help when I asked. I remember well when you didn't dare go into one of those without a group but that is no longer the case.

    The point really is that ZOS has made the game mostly soloable, including Public Dungeons and their "Group" challenges.
    Since ZOS chose to go that route, they need to finish the job and take away these leftover mechanics in a couple of places (here and the couple of Craglorn quests that have similar requirements).

    Yes, they were originally intended as group content.
    No, they no longer Are group content, and they need to be changed so that they can be completed.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno it would be nice if this was brought to the attention of the Devs.

    No it wouldn't be nice. It would be nice if they could go back and give incentive for others helping. This game does not have much group content left and solo complainers in an MMO is getting tiresome.

    It would be better if they tuned at least those Public Dungeons back up to be group content but considering the way they do things, it's not likely they'd take the time to.
    It's more likely to get them to change a couple of mechanics in a couple of quests.
    Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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  • Tandor
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    Kathrein wrote: »
    sweety...i'm sorry to break this news to you....but you are playing an mmo, maybe you didn't notice

    Perfect example of the condescending attitude that drives many players to solo these days.
  • skavenapsb16_ESO
    Metamon wrote: »
    I've got one achievement left to get for Public Dungeons and it's out of reach since I never group up (usually due to other player incompetence or no one around)

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    For now, i'm going to work on Dungeon Annihilator and work towards the Monster Hunter title

    Maybe you can ask help at zone/guild/friend.. i mean.. i don't think asking for help will kill you.
  • Gothlander
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    I did that cheeve not to long ago. You only need one more person to step on a tile.
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  • Duiwel
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    @ VR12 you can steal for like 10 minutes to make 5k OP...

    Or explore/ kill mobs / quest for an hour or 2 for 5k

    zone chat in Glenumbra or Wayrest and ask for help then go to Alik'ir...

    Are you really that stingy?

    Tell me you are EU DC I will show you how incompetent people are by helping you and debunking your stereotype.

    I am with @WalkingLegacy on this one, this game needs more group content and incentive to play together not less...

    I had to cut my play time short yesterday because I could not bare to solo play ( I am one of those players that can play literally hours on end - as long as there is someone in my group and we are doing stuff together ). Please note this is not because I lack skill, I am unable to solo content, bad at the game. It's because I loathe solo-ing it gets so boring for me. I need the sociable aspect for me to enjoy myself.

    Now OP in no way am I saying you need to change your play-style / what you like / how you like to play the game, I am merely listing my own style saying we are the opposite.

    Do note however that I don't always enjoy playing with everyone :tongue: Certain people's play-style / what's fun for them is not for me. I am fortunate to have a bunch of friends & guildies who share the same interests though :smiley:

    EDIT (added this) :
    Tandor wrote: »
    Kathrein wrote: »
    sweety...i'm sorry to break this news to you....but you are playing an mmo, maybe you didn't notice

    Perfect example of the condescending attitude that drives many players to solo these days.

    I disagree and I agree with Kathrein ( a shame she is EP we could've been best friends )
    Edited by Duiwel on February 25, 2016 1:06PM
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  • clayandaudrey_ESO
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    Tonycheung wrote: »
    so I am on my alt, playing the normal pledge. Turns out my alt haven't finished the quest there,and the leader immediately disband the group! I cannot stay long enough for that sweet free exp and skill point before the system boot me out!
    Edit: that banished cell normal quest requires the npc to perform some ritual before I can turn in the quest, that is why

    Awesome example of grouping.

    Now even though I don't agree with the OP the whole you play an mmo group up comments are irritating. If group was the main reason for the genre it would called an MMOG. The g is for group.
  • kungmoo
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    If your AD on NA-PC gimme a yell in game and ill come give ya a hand on the tiles
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  • WalkingLegacy
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Kathrein wrote: »
    sweety...i'm sorry to break this news to you....but you are playing an mmo, maybe you didn't notice

    Perfect example of the condescending attitude that drives many players to solo these days.

    That 'attitude' wouldn't exist if people weren't constantly trying to change an MMO to fit their single-player play style.

    @Duiwel says it perfectly.

    I myself don't always want to do big groups but I also understand the need for group content in an MMO.

    And I almost always on when my BFF is on.
    kungmoo wrote: »
    If your AD on NA-PC gimme a yell in game and ill come give ya a hand on the tiles

    Here, have an awesome for volunteering to help. I would, but I'm hardly ever on these days.
    Edited by WalkingLegacy on February 25, 2016 2:44PM
  • Duiwel
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    Tandor wrote: »
    If group was the main reason for the genre it would called an MMOG. The g is for group.

    Actually the first M is for Massive ( it refers to the many players online playing the same game, you can make friends with them, join guilds with them, do stuff with them ) so no need for a G at the end if the first letter refers to that...

    Also most people would assume that the G is an acronym for the word game... As MMORPG is a very popular acronym.
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  • EZgoin76
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    The tiles are arbitrary roadblocks. Yes public dungeons were not meant to be soloable, to bad ZOS has made them that way. They can either up the difficulty back the way it used to be, so people know right from the start they can't solo it or they remove those damn tiles.

    I agree it's easy to find other players, well not so much on console, though chat is coming. But every time I ask the guilds I either get a condescending response or no response at all. So I normally wait a few minutes for another player to show up and ask them, or give up and try again later. I believe zone chat will help a lot with this though. Finding people in the same area, doing things close to you makes them a little more helpful it seems.
    I want to change the world. I'm just to lazy to do it.
  • ProfessorKittyhawk
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    I'm on PC NA. If you're on EP then I could help attain that title. Have a vr16 and vr8 character who can access Alik'r in vet. Also have a DC character who just reached that area, level 34.
  • Tandor
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    If group was the main reason for the genre it would called an MMOG. The g is for group.

    Actually the first M is for Massive ( it refers to the many players online playing the same game, you can make friends with them, join guilds with them, do stuff with them ) so no need for a G at the end if the first letter refers to that...

    Also most people would assume that the G is an acronym for the word game... As MMORPG is a very popular acronym.

    You're quoting me but it wasn't me who said that.

  • Volkodav
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    Metamon wrote: »
    I've got one achievement left to get for Public Dungeons and it's out of reach since I never group up (usually due to other player incompetence or no one around)

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    For now, i'm going to work on Dungeon Annihilator and work towards the Monster Hunter title

    Just do what I do.I wait until I see someone heading in the dungeon and run along with them.Has worked for me all the time.I rarely group up.
    Also,if you are too proud to let someone else help you,then you wont gain that achievement.Period. As others have said,this is an MMO,and a few things need to be finished by more than one person.
    You dont have to marry them,just run a dungeon with them for a few minutes,then be on your merry way,as I do.
    Edited by Volkodav on February 25, 2016 4:49PM
  • clayandaudrey_ESO
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    If group was the main reason for the genre it would called an MMOG. The g is for group.

    Actually the first M is for Massive ( it refers to the many players online playing the same game, you can make friends with them, join guilds with them, do stuff with them ) so no need for a G at the end if the first letter refers to that...

    Also most people would assume that the G is an acronym for the word game... As MMORPG is a very popular acronym.

    MMORPG is massively multiplayer online role playing game, not group. . This is a game where a massive amount of people interact in a virtual world. This interaction can be grouping, selling items, pvp, social interaction. You are not required to group to play these types of games.

    I find it tiresome that people say it's an mmo group up anytime someone complains. Like I said I do not agree with the OP as o think there should be things you can only do in a group. But it is misleading to say this is an mmo group up.
    Edited by clayandaudrey_ESO on February 25, 2016 7:31PM
  • Stranglehands
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    You literally stand there and wait for someone to come along
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  • Stranglehands
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    It's not even like craglorn where you're in an instanced dungeon so you need someone to group with you to do it
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  • Acrolas
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    I do want to see the numbers on this one. How many get that skill point in home faction, in Silver, and in Gold.

    Then we can discuss how "fair" it is to have a skill point locked away deep in the desert unless you have a few hours to schedule a 30 second event.
    signing off
  • Duiwel
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    Tandor wrote: »

    You're quoting me but it wasn't me who said that.

    Apologies for the mistaken quote then...
    Duiwel wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    If group was the main reason for the genre it would called an MMOG. The g is for group.

    Actually the first M is for Massive ( it refers to the many players online playing the same game, you can make friends with them, join guilds with them, do stuff with them ) so no need for a G at the end if the first letter refers to that...

    Also most people would assume that the G is an acronym for the word game... As MMORPG is a very popular acronym.

    TLDR: Answer is only for @clayandaudrey_ESO
    MMORPG is massively multiplayer online role playing game, not group. . This is a game where a massive amount of people interact in a virtual world. This interaction can be grouping, selling items, pvp, social interaction. You are not required to group to play these types of games.

    I find it tiresome that people say it's an mmo group up anytime someone complains. Like I said I do not agree with the OP as o think there should be things you can only do in a group. But it is misleading to say this is an mmo group up.

    90% of your last statement is the exact same as the quote you took from me by the way, although in no way is it misleading to tell someone to group up it's an MMO. There are 5 zones for each alliance + added zones such as Cyrodiil, Wrothgar, Craglorn, IC. Within these zones there are different "phases" where each is populated a bit unevenly however most of the time the player will be in a very populated "phase". It takes no effort whatsoever from the player ("looking for" / "lf" ) to type /z in zone chat and make a request. The community is very helpful as has been proven on the forum also ( 4 people offered assistance).

    Why did you quote MMORPG and "explain" it to me shortly after I explained to you what MMO stands for? the RPG is irrelevant since you are the one who came up with MMO"G" . I pointed out the "G" you wanted to insert would cause confusion with the already existing G for game ( see MMORPG's "G" as reference)...

    I'd say saying MMO's are tough to group with (especially in a medium level zone) is misleading from you...

    There are literally thousands of guilds in this game, if you have played this game ( which I am sure you have ) then you would know the majority of guilds are willing to help players out ( not always at the exact moment they need / want it ) but in say 20 mins or so sure. I have never seen people outright ignore such a valid request. I have been playing MMO's since 2005. If a guild is unwilling to help you, why stay? There are tons of guilds recruiting every day.

    Also as I said the LF function is an important tool in /z chat ( can also replace LF with "need help" ).

    I don't appreciate false rumours about this game's community stating it's unwilling to help people ( which you are clearly supporting by your statement ). I end my answer to you with this: No where did I say: "It's an MMO group up" so do not put words in my mouth thank you very much :mrgreen:


    Everyone else can read here:
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    I am curious as to if you guys did achievements on other MMO's too, because just standing and waiting for something to spawn / someone to arrive to help is pretty standard MMO behavior. Complaining about it is like complaining the game requires internet...
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  • Ackwalan
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    I did this group event the other day. I said in chat I was doing the group event and 2 people responded within 10 seconds.
  • Kathrein
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    EDIT (added this) :
    Tandor wrote: »
    Kathrein wrote: »
    sweety...i'm sorry to break this news to you....but you are playing an mmo, maybe you didn't notice

    Perfect example of the condescending attitude that drives many players to solo these days.

    I disagree and I agree with Kathrein ( a shame she is EP we could've been best friends )

    We still can be! don't give up on me

  • Duiwel
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    I did this group event the other day. I said in chat I was doing the group event and 2 people responded within 10 seconds.

    Achievement unlocked Zone chat specialist :mrgreen:
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  • starkerealm
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    Metamon wrote: »
    @Turelus, appreciate the friendly hand but sadly i'm on the NA server :(

    Which faction?
    Duiwel wrote: »
    Ackwalan wrote: »
    I did this group event the other day. I said in chat I was doing the group event and 2 people responded within 10 seconds.

    Achievement unlocked Zone chat specialist :mrgreen:

    Zone Chat Specialist is the one that comes with it's own vomit bag, right? :p
    Edited by starkerealm on February 26, 2016 12:10PM
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