Dear ZOS, balancing?

DEATHquidox · February 2016

I don't know why you guys haven't fixed the damage in this game. I really enjoyed it when it actually took a minute to kill people now I see people drop bodies in seconds it's frustrating I love pvp and right now this is the only game with real pvp for Ps4 I'd like to see every class doing some good damage but don't nerf everyone. Test the balancing. Take it to the pts. Let people fight it out and give feed back here on the fourms. That's what we want ZOS. We want a good game with good pvp but I want a chance to kill people not to be riding on my horse and get melted with 2 abilities does anyone else agree? I'd like to fight people. That would be fun like when yall gave 50% reduction to damage and shields and healing. Just like that. Please zos. We need that.

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

Wow, you think bodies drop now..... you would loved it before the 50% nerf to damage/healing... at least it takes more than one ability now.

Waffennacht · February 2016

Hey OP, maybe with the non-CP campaign you wont experience the power creep you are talking about? What you are asking for, may be right around the corner.

Also, there are plenty of tanky builds out there, they don't just drop. When pure dps faces other dps, then yeah someone's going down quickly.

I think with non-CP you'll be happy and if there was more of an incentive to play heavy armor, you'd be set.

DEATHquidox · February 2016

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

Wow, you think bodies drop now..... you would loved it before the 50% nerf to damage/healing... at least it takes more than one ability now.

I've been playing the game sense June dude. Yes bodies drop. Have you seen bats and magic det on a nb? Have you seen other people run into massive groups of people taking keeps with 3 people and kill 30+ people? This game needs a balanc to it. No 1 class should be over damaging another unless ur a glass cannon

lolo_01b16_ESO · February 2016

DEATHquidox wrote: »

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

Wow, you think bodies drop now..... you would loved it before the 50% nerf to damage/healing... at least it takes more than one ability now.

I've been playing the game sense June dude. Yes bodies drop. Have you seen bats and magic det on a nb? Have you seen other people run into massive groups of people taking keeps with 3 people and kill 30+ people? This game needs a balanc to it. No 1 class should be over damaging another unless ur a glass cannon

I haven't seen a group of 3 take a keep against 30 people since the glorious days of dragonvampires early in the game. If a group of 30 dies to 3 players, then it's most likely a combination of bad gear, no communication and bad positioning and has nothing to do with the played class.

illusionistik · February 2016

I just tried to keep it to myself but... But... Word vomit..

Who taught you your punctuation OP?!?

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

DEATHquidox wrote: »

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

Wow, you think bodies drop now..... you would loved it before the 50% nerf to damage/healing... at least it takes more than one ability now.

I've been playing the game sense June dude. Yes bodies drop. Have you seen bats and magic det on a nb? Have you seen other people run into massive groups of people taking keeps with 3 people and kill 30+ people? This game needs a balanc to it. No 1 class should be over damaging another unless ur a glass cannon

I haven't seen a group of 3 take a keep against 30 people since the glorious days of dragonvampires early in the game. If a group of 30 dies to 3 players, then it's most likely a combination of bad gear, no communication and bad positioning and has nothing to do with the played class.

Obviously referring to 30 extreme bads dying to 3 (probably 6-7) goods..... I see no issue with that. With the way numbers play such a big part in today's game, it's good to see the wee man come out on top from time to time.

MaxwellC · February 2016

Though I do agree with the OP cloud swarm into prox det being OP when it comes to NBs that is but bodies don't drop. What's really annoying is healing templars who are spec'd out to be a 100% battery able to spam heals through the ground without having to worry about LoS.
Don't get me started on stambush and it's lack of having a minimum cast range like every other gap close ability....Stun lock for days

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

Oh lord, this thread is going to degenerate into another general QQ about why I last died in PVP...... @ZOS_GinaBruno.... just close it now.... save these poor people their time and tears.

Destyran · February 2016

illusionistik wrote: »

I just tried to keep it to myself but... But... Word vomit..

Who taught you your punctuation OP?!?

*You're

Huehuehuehuehue

therrieur · February 2016

How is Cloud Swarm into prox det OP, ONLY when it comes to nightblades?

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

therrieur wrote: »

How is Cloud Swarm into prox det OP, ONLY when it comes to nightblades?

because it kills me...... trolololololol.

lolo_01b16_ESO · February 2016

therrieur wrote: »

How is Cloud Swarm into prox det OP, ONLY when it comes to nightblades?

For the same reason that all people complain about nb gankers when I kill them on my dk archer

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

therrieur wrote: »

How is Cloud Swarm into prox det OP, ONLY when it comes to nightblades?

For the same reason that all people complain about nb gankers when I kill them on my dk archer

OMG, this made my sides hurt!! Too funny!

SublimeSparo · February 2016

Destyran wrote: »

illusionistik wrote: »

I just tried to keep it to myself but... But... Word vomit..

Who taught you your punctuation OP?!?

*You're

Huehuehuehuehue

... No it should be 'your'
'you're' is you are which would make no sense.
Technically it should be "Who taught you punctuation?" or "Who taught you to punctuate?" but meh

Destyran · February 2016

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Destyran wrote: »

illusionistik wrote: »

I just tried to keep it to myself but... But... Word vomit..

Who taught you your punctuation OP?!?

*You're

Huehuehuehuehue

... No it should be 'your'
'you're' is you are which would make no sense.
Technically it should be "Who taught you punctuation?" or "Who taught you to punctuate?" but meh

Hook line and sinker hahahah

GreenSoup2HoT · February 2016

camo hunter anyone?

DEATHquidox · February 2016

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

DEATHquidox wrote: »

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

Wow, you think bodies drop now..... you would loved it before the 50% nerf to damage/healing... at least it takes more than one ability now.

I've been playing the game sense June dude. Yes bodies drop. Have you seen bats and magic det on a nb? Have you seen other people run into massive groups of people taking keeps with 3 people and kill 30+ people? This game needs a balanc to it. No 1 class should be over damaging another unless ur a glass cannon

I haven't seen a group of 3 take a keep against 30 people since the glorious days of dragonvampires early in the game. If a group of 30 dies to 3 players, then it's most likely a combination of bad gear, no communication and bad positioning and has nothing to do with the played class.

On ps4 3 magicka Nb use proxy det and bats and destroy a group of 30 taking a keep like batman saving Gotham

khele23eb17_ESO · February 2016

DEATHquidox wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

DEATHquidox wrote: »

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

Wow, you think bodies drop now..... you would loved it before the 50% nerf to damage/healing... at least it takes more than one ability now.

I've been playing the game sense June dude. Yes bodies drop. Have you seen bats and magic det on a nb? Have you seen other people run into massive groups of people taking keeps with 3 people and kill 30+ people? This game needs a balanc to it. No 1 class should be over damaging another unless ur a glass cannon

I haven't seen a group of 3 take a keep against 30 people since the glorious days of dragonvampires early in the game. If a group of 30 dies to 3 players, then it's most likely a combination of bad gear, no communication and bad positioning and has nothing to do with the played class.

On ps4 3 magicka Nb use proxy det and bats and destroy a group of 30 taking a keep like batman saving Gotham

Why arent they being nuked down with Fighter's Guild abilities?

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

DEATHquidox wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

DEATHquidox wrote: »

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

Wow, you think bodies drop now..... you would loved it before the 50% nerf to damage/healing... at least it takes more than one ability now.

I've been playing the game sense June dude. Yes bodies drop. Have you seen bats and magic det on a nb? Have you seen other people run into massive groups of people taking keeps with 3 people and kill 30+ people? This game needs a balanc to it. No 1 class should be over damaging another unless ur a glass cannon

I haven't seen a group of 3 take a keep against 30 people since the glorious days of dragonvampires early in the game. If a group of 30 dies to 3 players, then it's most likely a combination of bad gear, no communication and bad positioning and has nothing to do with the played class.

On ps4 3 magicka Nb use proxy det and bats and destroy a group of 30 taking a keep like batman saving Gotham

For 30 people to die to 3, even if one of the 3 is the emp, there would have to be a perfect alignment of high skill (the 3) and extreme bad(the 30)..... even then, luck will play it's part. I'm not trying to be mean, but 30 wiping to 3 is an indictment of the 30, not of the games balance. If anything, the game is gear too much towards the numbers advantage..... I mean extra damage mitigation just because I'm in a group of 7.... it's laughable.

RAGUNAnoOne · February 2016

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

Wow, you think bodies drop now..... you would loved it before the 50% nerf to damage/healing... at least it takes more than one ability now.

there are still one shots.

flguy147ub17_ESO · February 2016

There are plenty of videos of 1-3 people taking out a zerg, yes its basically a zerg bomb, but i have seen a ton of videos with it.

IcyDeadPeople · February 2016

DEATHquidox wrote: »

I don't know why you guys haven't fixed the damage in this game. I really enjoyed it when it actually took a minute to kill people now I see people drop bodies in seconds

Part of this has to do with the player base becoming more skilled compared to at launch and coming up with more specialized build concepts, etc.

Emma_Overload · February 2016

therrieur wrote: »

How is Cloud Swarm into prox det OP, ONLY when it comes to nightblades?

Don't NBs have passives that increase damage from stealth? And doesn't Clouding Swarm count as stealth?

AOECAPS · February 2016

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

therrieur wrote: »

How is Cloud Swarm into prox det OP, ONLY when it comes to nightblades?

Don't NBs have passives that increase damage from stealth? And doesn't Clouding Swarm count as stealth?

Yes so det gets a 10% buff will I'm bats plus the additional % of targets grouped up and steel tornado gets that as well usually the 3 Nbs I believe op is talking about will hide next to keep door across from shrine and when ppl hit the flag they Zerg bomb with det bats and 1 steel tornados.if you guys think that isn't op now just wait until TG update.hell I rerolled a magicka NB 4 months ago for this cheesy crap since ZoS does a poor job of balancing

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

There are plenty of videos of 1-3 people taking out a zerg, yes its basically a zerg bomb, but i have seen a ton of videos with it.

The problem with that is I can take a group of three out into cyrodiil and bomb zergs all week and fail 99/100 times, but post a video of that one time. That doesn't make it the norm. It was the norm once upon a time, but the way the game works right now favours larger groups in a huge way.

D0ntevenL1ft · February 2016

AOECAPS wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

therrieur wrote: »

How is Cloud Swarm into prox det OP, ONLY when it comes to nightblades?

Don't NBs have passives that increase damage from stealth? And doesn't Clouding Swarm count as stealth?

Yes so det gets a 10% buff will I'm bats plus the additional % of targets grouped up and steel tornado gets that as well usually the 3 Nbs I believe op is talking about will hide next to keep door across from shrine and when ppl hit the flag they Zerg bomb with det bats and 1 steel tornados.if you guys think that isn't op now just wait until TG update.hell I rerolled a magicka NB 4 months ago for this cheesy crap since ZoS does a poor job of balancing

I wonder why your name is AOE caps

DEATHquidox · February 2016

AOECAPS wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

therrieur wrote: »

How is Cloud Swarm into prox det OP, ONLY when it comes to nightblades?

Don't NBs have passives that increase damage from stealth? And doesn't Clouding Swarm count as stealth?

Yes so det gets a 10% buff will I'm bats plus the additional % of targets grouped up and steel tornado gets that as well usually the 3 Nbs I believe op is talking about will hide next to keep door across from shrine and when ppl hit the flag they Zerg bomb with det bats and 1 steel tornados.if you guys think that isn't op now just wait until TG update.hell I rerolled a magicka NB 4 months ago for this cheesy crap since ZoS does a poor job of balancing

Problem with det. Everyone will have it in the next update. It's not gonna be hard to get and it's a very strong ability not gonna be good on zoses end honestly. Just making the game worse because I worked hard to get det.

mb10 · February 2016

If it takes a minute to kill someone then it can potentially take over 15 to kill someone good.

With enough recovery some may never even die on a one on one at that rate.

Ilterendi · February 2016

mb10 wrote: »

If it takes a minute to kill someone then it can potentially take over 15 to kill someone good.

With enough recovery some may never even die on a one on one at that rate.

Those people are called Sorcs. They stack shields and never die.

sagitter · February 2016

30 vs 3 sounds like 30 were really newbies and lowgeared players, but sorry i can't really trust you, post a video and we'll see how these 3 guys outperform 30. Maybe u were standing in 5 oils+meatbag inside a keep.