Is this dmg intended ZOS? Scorching Flare rank I

olsborg · February 2016

So I get it, this spell has one use, but not just a smidge OP? Give it some more utility perhaps and lower the dmg somewhat?

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Septimus_Magna · February 2016

Nah, just put some points into Thick Skinned to mitigate DOT dmg..

Francescolg · February 2016

If this is from the test server, you should post in the test server forum.

If it is not from the test server, it must be a bug!

On the other hand..., some guys at ZOS who "design" new armor pieces/sets clearly have no clue about PvP, as for example the 2h-hand-master weapon, which offered something like 17k extra damage for the 2h-charge attack. Or, in the next patch, they have an armor, which does (15k) AoE-damage after you kill an enemy, which was also nurfed by 50%.

Since the game went free-to-play, many new armors offer too many dmg // weapon / spell dmg boni. And some stay in the game: Molag Kena, etc.
The -50% damage debuff in Cyrondil is a big farce, which only hurts players without the top-equip to compensate.

olsborg · February 2016

This was on PTS, using the same build Im testing on live, 2990 spelldmg with 40600 magicka on a sorc. With might of the guild procc up.

s7732425ub17_ESO · February 2016

No. It's not OP. I actually had this on my bar for a very long time. It's extremely difficult to use and to actually hit someone with. But when you do, it's amazing!!

For those saying it's too powerful, I would bet money that you have actually never used it nor have ever been hit with it. If the damage were lowered at all, it would just be tossed into the bin with all the other unusable skills. And there's no reason for that to happen.

Didaco · February 2016

#NoCountersToCloak

olsborg · February 2016

What sets this apart from live, is that you cant purge the dot from using cloak, you can on live it just doesnt hide you again, but it does remove the dot. On pts all this dmg will tick away while taking aggro from other spells, its pretty rip if you get revealed by this spell, specially if you are a vamp and stamina user.

leepalmer95 · February 2016

The dot only works if you actually reveal them while there stealthed/cloaked.

It's quite hard to hit someone, if they cloak you've got to aim it right, if they come out of cloak while the flare is travelling then it's a wasted skill

Be nice is the dot dmg was lowered but would apply even if there not in stealth. Aoe Dot

olsborg · February 2016

The dot could apply 50% of its dmg on 3 unhidden ppl in the radius, but 100% on 1 hidden target that is revealed, dunno.

s7732425ub17_ESO · February 2016

olsborg wrote: »

The dot could apply 50% of its dmg on 3 unhidden ppl in the radius, but 100% on 1 hidden target that is revealed, dunno.

What? This is a terrible suggestion.

leepalmer95 · February 2016

olsborg wrote: »

The dot could apply 50% of its dmg on 3 unhidden ppl in the radius, but 100% on 1 hidden target that is revealed, dunno.

Could we not mention aoe caps, in a roundabout way again please xD

Also what gear etc.. did you use, i believe you maxed magic dmg in cp right? Then put a lot into the Dot dmg increase.

Are people actually going to validly do that in live?

olsborg · February 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

The dot could apply 50% of its dmg on 3 unhidden ppl in the radius, but 100% on 1 hidden target that is revealed, dunno.

Could we not mention aoe caps, in a roundabout way again please xD

Also what gear etc.. did you use, i believe you maxed magic dmg in cp right? Then put a lot into the Dot dmg increase.

Are people actually going to validly do that in live?

Max elemental expert and 5% into dot dmg. Also might of the guild is up as I mentioned. The dmg is a tad high if you ask me. If it was lowered somewhat, it needs to have more utility on say, unhidden ppl etc.

Akinos · February 2016

Nothing wrong with this skill, it's still gonna be near useless 95% of the time considering it only works on people that are already in stealth.

olsborg · February 2016

Akinos wrote: »

Nothing wrong with this skill, it's still gonna be near useless 95% of the time considering it only works on people that are already in stealth.

I can see a use in duels when youre fighting a nb, but other then that, yea youre kinda right.

leepalmer95 · February 2016

olsborg wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Nothing wrong with this skill, it's still gonna be near useless 95% of the time considering it only works on people that are already in stealth.

I can see a use in duels when youre fighting a nb, but other then that, yea youre kinda right.

Most people would just use magelight, 7% max mag/2% mag regen/10% spell crit and it's cheaper and doesn't need to be aimed before you use it.

Autolycus · February 2016

I think it might be considered OP if it applied to everyone it hits, but as it stands the ability is of no use against someone who isn't hidden. I agree with @leepalmer95 in that it can be difficult to actually hit someone with the skill; you'd need to know where they are at (despite them being invisible or crouched) or accurately anticipate where they are going to land it. I believe the high damage output (accounting for the fact that the tooltip you posted is empowered with Might of the Guild) offsets its limited utility. Imho, this is a very good situational skill, and to my knowledge the high damage component doesn't fit into a normal rotation.

Millerman34n · February 2016

It working as intended!

lolo_01b16_ESO · February 2016

It's horrible for vampires. You hardcounter my ultimate and at the same time apply a strong dot (from which I as vamp take 25% extra damge). Should be changed imo. Maybe let it only affect stealth but not invisibility.

leepalmer95 · February 2016

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

It's horrible for vampires. You hardcounter my ultimate and at the same time apply a strong dot (from which I as vamp take 25% extra damge). Should be changed imo. Maybe let it only affect stealth but not invisibility.

If it affects only stealth which it does on live, it;s useless.

Your complaining about a skill no one is going to use but your ok about magelight/mark/dawnbreaker/camo hunter?

It's not a hard counter at all, plenty of skills hit you in clouding (i assume clouding), also if it bothers you so much use devouring.