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Can't Reflect Meteor - Do this?

SneaK
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How about since we can no longer purge, cloak, reflect meteor, we make it call down like the Atro or the Nova?

This would allow us to roll away from it..

(For those that don't play Sorc or Templar, the Atronach and Nova both can be used without targeting anybody. You simply pick a spot on the ground you want it to fall, and it does.)
Edited by SneaK on February 22, 2016 3:03PM
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    That would make too much sense.
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  • SneaK
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    That would make too much sense.

    Right, and since it does this thread will fall into the abyss cause no one is in here bickering at each other.
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  • timidobserver
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    As a Templar I don't need another nova. I like that meteor hits a target.
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  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Before adding another ground target ultimate they should fix the bug that allows you to drop these ultimates multiple times in a row.
  • SemiD4rkness
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    As a Templar I don't need another nova. I like that meteor hits a target.

    Well not everyone is a templar. The idea sounds great but doesn't matter if devs even happen to read this sugestion they would add something to ruin it like they do with almost everything.
  • Recremen
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    Yeah, something about the combination of ranged AoE burst damage CC DoT and snare/ult gain that can't be avoided in any way and whose CC often bugs out and goes through block/CC immunity just doesn't seem right.
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  • driosketch
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    Before adding another ground target ultimate they should fix the bug that allows you to drop these ultimates multiple times in a row.

    That's lag not recognizing the ult cost. It effects dawnbreaker and remembrance too, among others.
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  • Molag_Crow
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    Good idea.
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  • bikerangelo
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    Since Nova and Atronach are broken currently (you can spam it and get multiple novas or atronachs), it'd probably be a bad idea to mimic the effect with meteor before those are fixed.
  • Khaos_Bane
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    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?
  • Khaos_Bane
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    As a Templar I don't need another nova. I like that meteor hits a target.

    Well not everyone is a templar. The idea sounds great but doesn't matter if devs even happen to read this sugestion they would add something to ruin it like they do with almost everything.

    Not everyone is a DK either. Because a DK can't reflect it doesn't mean that the mechanics should change for everyone else in the game. This is not a DK centric world, well it partially is !
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    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    I agree with this.

    unless unlike nova it is an aoe burst damage not damage over time. just still instant damage on the area boom done. lol
    Edited by Lightninvash on February 22, 2016 3:54PM
  • SneaK
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    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.
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  • OGLezard
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    SneaK wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.

    oh you mean meteor will be worth slotting for once lol it has never left my bar, because METEOR, but the fact it could be purged, hidden from, and reflected has always drove me crazy.
  • Pallmor
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    SneaK wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.

    It just makes Meteor even more OP than it already was.
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.

    oh you mean meteor will be worth slotting for once lol it has never left my bar, because METEOR, but the fact it could be purged, hidden from, and reflected has always drove me crazy.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my Ice Comet. Grinding lore books is probably the most nagging thing I've ever done on a video game but in end this skill makes it worth it. But, there should be a way to avoid it. Casters should have to think and time out when dropping ults.
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  • Lightninvash
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    SneaK wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.

    yeah that is why I suggested an aoe burst damage so you have a split second if that to roll out of it.
  • SneaK
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    SneaK wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.

    yeah that is why I suggested an aoe burst damage so you have a split second if that to roll out of it.

    Um, it does have an AOE burst. I think the DoTs should stay.
    Edited by SneaK on February 22, 2016 4:15PM
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Sorry that makes way to much sense and it interferes with ZOS logic.
  • OGLezard
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    SneaK wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.

    oh you mean meteor will be worth slotting for once lol it has never left my bar, because METEOR, but the fact it could be purged, hidden from, and reflected has always drove me crazy.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my Ice Comet. Grinding lore books is probably the most nagging thing I've ever done on a video game but in end this skill makes it worth it. But, there should be a way to avoid it. Casters should have to think and time out when dropping ults.

    Hold block, then dodge roll. Nothing wrong with that.
  • SneaK
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.

    oh you mean meteor will be worth slotting for once lol it has never left my bar, because METEOR, but the fact it could be purged, hidden from, and reflected has always drove me crazy.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my Ice Comet. Grinding lore books is probably the most nagging thing I've ever done on a video game but in end this skill makes it worth it. But, there should be a way to avoid it. Casters should have to think and time out when dropping ults.

    Hold block, then dodge roll. Nothing wrong with that.

    :( I am aware of those two mechanics. Unfortunately, neither equates to dodging a Meteor.
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  • SemiD4rkness
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    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    As a Templar I don't need another nova. I like that meteor hits a target.

    Well not everyone is a templar. The idea sounds great but doesn't matter if devs even happen to read this sugestion they would add something to ruin it like they do with almost everything.

    Not everyone is a DK either. Because a DK can't reflect it doesn't mean that the mechanics should change for everyone else in the game. This is not a DK centric world, well it partially is !

    You wut mate? Been templar since the beggining of times and have been reflecting meteor ever since (defensive stance)
  • Lightninvash
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    SneaK wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.

    yeah that is why I suggested an aoe burst damage so you have a split second if that to roll out of it.

    Um, it does have an AOE burst. I think the DoTs should stay.

    does it? then its perfect as is lol. never used meteor before :p
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    As a Templar I don't need another nova. I like that meteor hits a target.

    Well not everyone is a templar. The idea sounds great but doesn't matter if devs even happen to read this sugestion they would add something to ruin it like they do with almost everything.

    Not everyone is a DK either. Because a DK can't reflect it doesn't mean that the mechanics should change for everyone else in the game. This is not a DK centric world, well it partially is !

    But every one can well could reflect meteor with defensive posture form the sword and shield skill line.
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    driosketch wrote: »
    Before adding another ground target ultimate they should fix the bug that allows you to drop these ultimates multiple times in a row.

    That's lag not recognizing the ult cost. It effects dawnbreaker and remembrance too, among others.
    I doubt it's lag related. I also could drop 2 novas in empty pve areas when I tested it. However it only worked for ground target ultimates, for every other ultimate I saw multiple casts only in laggy pvp fights.
    Edited by lolo_01b16_ESO on February 22, 2016 4:56PM
  • OGLezard
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    SneaK wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.

    oh you mean meteor will be worth slotting for once lol it has never left my bar, because METEOR, but the fact it could be purged, hidden from, and reflected has always drove me crazy.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my Ice Comet. Grinding lore books is probably the most nagging thing I've ever done on a video game but in end this skill makes it worth it. But, there should be a way to avoid it. Casters should have to think and time out when dropping ults.

    Hold block, then dodge roll. Nothing wrong with that.

    :( I am aware of those two mechanics. Unfortunately, neither equates to dodging a Meteor.

    dont need to dodge meteor when you can just block it then dodge out of the ground AoE, thats my point >_>
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    If it was dodge-able I feel it would be fairly useless.
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  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    No this is too much of a nerf to templars. A second Nova?!? Stop nerfing my class!! /Sarcasm
  • leepalmer95
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.

    oh you mean meteor will be worth slotting for once lol it has never left my bar, because METEOR, but the fact it could be purged, hidden from, and reflected has always drove me crazy.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my Ice Comet. Grinding lore books is probably the most nagging thing I've ever done on a video game but in end this skill makes it worth it. But, there should be a way to avoid it. Casters should have to think and time out when dropping ults.

    Hold block, then dodge roll. Nothing wrong with that.

    :( I am aware of those two mechanics. Unfortunately, neither equates to dodging a Meteor.

    dont need to dodge meteor when you can just block it then dodge out of the ground AoE, thats my point >_>

    Since when do people actually let people block meteor? You cc them with something to drop the block first ofc... xD
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  • SneaK
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    Why should this change for everyone just because the DK can't reflect it ?

    Maybe my title was misleading.. Meteor cannot be avoided by any class now. You used to be able to purge/cloak Meteors with other classes, DK's could reflect, now you can't do either of them. It's essentially an unavoidable 10k+ attack, which is (IMO) a game breaker.

    oh you mean meteor will be worth slotting for once lol it has never left my bar, because METEOR, but the fact it could be purged, hidden from, and reflected has always drove me crazy.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my Ice Comet. Grinding lore books is probably the most nagging thing I've ever done on a video game but in end this skill makes it worth it. But, there should be a way to avoid it. Casters should have to think and time out when dropping ults.

    Hold block, then dodge roll. Nothing wrong with that.

    :( I am aware of those two mechanics. Unfortunately, neither equates to dodging a Meteor.

    dont need to dodge meteor when you can just block it then dodge out of the ground AoE, thats my point >_>

    I know what you are saying, but don't see your point. The argument ZOS had was that it was the only reflect-able ulti in the game (which actually isn't true via Soul Assault/Eclipse) so they changed that. Only now, it simply cannot be avoided at all, like other ults which can be avoided. In this next patch if you aren't running Meteor you are at a disadvantage and almost hipster status.
    Edited by SneaK on February 22, 2016 6:49PM
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