Why do people say it's best to mix armor when you've unlocked Undaunted Mettle?

Espresso · February 2016

The Undaunted passive gives 1% to magika (which I care about) per type of armor. So max possible boost is 2% (medium plus heavy)

but

Having 5 or more pieces of light armor gives me

4884 spell penetration passive

2191 spell critical passive

Not to mention the per light armor piece passives (just look at the skill line)

Wollust · February 2016

Because getting 4% more stats is from a min/max perspective worth more than the extra sustain and whatever else you get. All three armor types give the main bonus with 5 pieces.

strikeback1247 · February 2016

That's why most recommend to run 5-1-1.

In your case: 5 light, 1 medium and 1 heavy armor piece.

LadyNalcarya · February 2016

Espresso wrote: »

The Undaunted passive gives 1% to magika (which I care about) per type of armor. So max possible boost is 2% (medium plus heavy)

but

Having 5 or more pieces of light armor gives me

4884 spell penetration passive

2191 spell critical passive

Not to mention the per light armor piece passives (just look at the skill line)

To get these passives, you only have to wear 5 pieces of light armor (this is what "full set" means, which is quite misleading).

seipher09 · February 2016

You can still keep the bonus of 5 or more light pieces of armor.

For each type of armor equipped you get a bonus. So 5 light, 1 heavy, 1 medium. Onced leveled up you gain 12% max stamina, magicka, and health

Ragnaroek93 · February 2016

I run 7 medium on my nightblade, I don't think 4% more stats is worth the loss of that stamreg and costreduction I get from 2 medium armor pieces.

Unsent.Soul · February 2016

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

I run 7 medium on my nightblade, I don't think 4% more stats is worth the loss of that stamreg and costreduction I get from 2 medium armor pieces.

To each their own, nothing is being forced

Kammakazi · February 2016

Higher Stat Pool

a_cylon · February 2016

Why do people post questions, answer it themselves and then attempt to educate people on what they think is better?

rager82b14_ESO · February 2016

This skill really needs to be changed. Such a dumb skill.

Espresso · February 2016

I'm getting a set bonus from the 2 other light armor pieces after the set of 5 though also

It just seems like a lot to give up

Kr3do · February 2016

Its 6% not 4% (at least with 5-1-1)

DRXHarbinger · February 2016

Serious? The light armour one is something stupid like .8% crit per item. Nothing you'll miss. I'd take 6% magika any day of the week. Not to mention the extra armor. Set up is heavy helm, med shoulders and all light 5 items. Works the best...well it's there for a reason isn't it. It's like an extra 2k armor.

Espresso · February 2016

it's 4 % , you're counting the light armor...

fastolfv_ESO · February 2016

yah 2% per armor type and theres 3 armor types, maths not hard lol

Elijah_Crow · February 2016

Espresso wrote: »

it's 4 % , you're counting the light armor...

The full bonus is 6% when fully unlocked. All light gives you 2% (for that one armor type), so the increase for diversifying is an additional 4%.

Debate avoided. Drops mic.

Jsmalls · February 2016

All the last 2 pieces of light armor does is 8% Magicka recovery and 6% spell cost reduction.

For most people an additional 4% in stats (which is the equivalent of what 1400~ Magicka alone is worth it.

Plus if you invest into the other armor passives you can get a few nice bonus (2 medium armor pieces gives me a decent amount off my dodge rolling) etc etc

NativeJoe · February 2016

having access to the other passives of the other skill lines is also a plus +4% stats is just generally the way to go. More resources = higher damage out put both because u can get more skills off, but also because stamina and magick also contribute to damage. And if your a tank, more % bonus to HP is ALWAYS a good thing.

Run whatever you want, there are plenty of niche build options out there. your character and skill sets arnt the only defining options. I suppose the BEST thing you can do is find a core group, see their short comings and build around that.

FriedEggSandwich · February 2016

Espresso wrote: »

I'm getting a set bonus from the 2 other light armor pieces after the set of 5 though also

It just seems like a lot to give up

2 pieces of light armour amounts to about 200 regen and about 6% cost reduction, both of which are easy to make up with cp. 6% more health, magicka and stamina is worth more.

acw37162 · February 2016

6 % More stats > 2 more pieces Passive bonus.

DaveMoeDee · February 2016

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

I run 7 medium on my nightblade, I don't think 4% more stats is worth the loss of that stamreg and costreduction I get from 2 medium armor pieces.

To each their own, nothing is being forced

I don't think the comment you are replying to says anything about being forced or that their way is the only correct way. In fact, they say "I don't think".

PlagueMonk · February 2016

acw37162 wrote: »

6 % More stats > 2 more pieces Passive bonus.

For light maybe but not for full medium (imho)

Savos_Saren · February 2016

For your scenario: Undaunted Mettle at level 9 gives 2% more health, magicka, and stamina for each different armor piece you wear. So, if you wear 5 light, 1 medium, and 1 heavy- you'll effectively get 6% increase in magicka, stamina, and health.

On top of that- you'll get ALL the passive armor abilities of Light armor since you're wearing 5 pieces. Plus, you'll get the passives of medium armor (except the "full set" bonus) AND you'll get the passives of heavy armor (except the "full set" bonus).

See the armor passives: Dexterity, Wind Walker, Improved Sneak, Athletics, Resolve, Constitution, Juggernaut, and Rapid Mending... and then add all those passives to the light armor passives you already possess.

Acsvf · February 2016

Because they think that the extra survivability and damage is better than the sustain.

Espresso wrote: »

I'm getting a set bonus from the 2 other light armor pieces after the set of 5 though also

It just seems like a lot to give up

Prodigy and concentration are not any better with 7 pieces than it is for 5 pieces.
You only give up some bonuses from evocation, recovery, and spell warding.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · February 2016

5-2 is the best actually you are only missing out on 2% max stats not worth the regen, cost reductions slit skill points. But that's my opinion play your way and have fun it's your game.

DaveMoeDee · February 2016

Has someone done the math to compare these using the ratio of the buffs received from food versus drink?

I find it interesting that they designed the game so that enchantments for attribute increases and regen are on different gear. It does make the choice a lot more meaningful.

nordsavage · February 2016

My preferences are:

Stamina Dps - 7 Medium.
Magicka any - 6 Light, 1 Heavy.
Stamina Tanking - 6 Heavy, 1 Medium.
Magicka Tanking - Get real.

Drakilian · February 2016

nordsavage wrote: »

My preferences are:

Stamina Dps - 7 Medium.
Magicka any - 6 Light, 1 Heavy.
Stamina Tanking - 6 Heavy, 1 Medium.
Magicka Tanking - Get real.

Sorc tank: 5-1-1, 16k< health, bound armour and inner light toggles, only other buttons are shields. You *** on everything and do more DPS with your overload ultimate than any two other players in the game put together

You can thank me later.

PlagueMonk · February 2016

nordsavage wrote: »

My preferences are:

Stamina Dps - 7 Medium.
Magicka any - 6 Light, 1 Heavy.
Stamina Tanking - 6 Heavy, 1 Medium.
Magicka Tanking - Get real.

I have to ask why 6 light 1 heavy for magicka? I thought 5 / 1 / 1 was best for them.

Thorn416 · February 2016

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

I run 7 medium on my nightblade, I don't think 4% more stats is worth the loss of that stamreg and costreduction I get from 2 medium armor pieces.

5-1-1 isn't always worth, it but 5-2 or 6-1 certainly is

nordsavage · February 2016

PlagueMonk wrote: »

nordsavage wrote: »

My preferences are:

Stamina Dps - 7 Medium.
Magicka any - 6 Light, 1 Heavy.
Stamina Tanking - 6 Heavy, 1 Medium.
Magicka Tanking - Get real.

I have to ask why 6 light 1 heavy for magicka? I thought 5 / 1 / 1 was best for them.

I can live without the extra 2% and magicka builds gain little to nothing from medium armor passives. I would rather have only 4% to attributes, the heavy armor rating and the extra little bit from a 6th light for Evocation, Recovery and Spell warding. I would go two heavy or all light before even considering a medium item.