Gilliam that's an excellent idea. I have made many a poison spec'd character as I've mentioned.

I was reading about people who have various physical problems animation canceling and such and was theorycrafting heavy attack builds and fell back on some of my old favorites, the Poisonous Serpent and Destructive Mage sets (a couple of the only jewelry-slot maximizing Sets before agility/willpower and the wonderful expansion of such upcoming in the Thieves Guild DLC) and came up with this which I thought you'd like, but I think I'd almost like it more as a stamina build with daedric damage (you can see from the below notes that at some point the Destructive Mage set's damage was increased by a whole lot beyond that screenshot you showed there):

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1__k0oaVE7Y9XDHTWzgPAaGqSWCTqBP6ZNW_vy5oguxw/edit

Palatinus build aka Lamp Knight dragonknight magicka heavy attack build


Those who are in good standing with the Mage's Guild may become a Knight of the Lamp, an order chartered by Trechtus to protect the Guild when he realized that money cannot buy loyalty. The Order only recruited those who had already demonstrated fighting skills and were in good standing with the Mages Guild. A contingent of the order was led by Vanus Galerion to confront Mannimarco and they participated in the resulting battle. After he became Archmagister, Hannibal Traven commanded the Order of the Lamp to arrest Magister Ulliceta gra-Kogg of Orsinium for necromancy but she escaped.


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Order_of_the_Lamp


A Palatinus is the leader of a local chapter of the Order of the Lamp and must prove their mettle by both beheading the avatar of Mephala as well as facing the fallen constellations, particularly the Scaled Court and the Celestial Serpent, in order obtain their regalia: The Mask of Spawn of Mephala's Mask and Arm Cops, a suit of Infallible Mage, Aether Rings of Empowerment and an Aether Necklace of Undoing, as well as both The Master's Inferno Staff and The Maelstrom Inferno Staff.


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mages_Guild


These treasures may have been extremely hard to obtain and later on Tamriel's heroes may even wonder what utility they can be put to other than attracting glowbugs to chew on these oft-discarded items while in storage on one's bank mule. Well, when combined in a precise way they can be of great utility to a strong and coordinated group of adventurers.


The basic idea behind this build is to create a heavy attack group play utility build for CCs, snares and single target execution in a pile of DoTs, based on leveraging the Spawn of Mephala magick DoT and snaring webs, Destructive Mage's daedric damage bomb and Infallible Mage set's 10% reduced spell and physical resistance (nor a major/minor debuff, so stackable) and the damage bonus to heavy attacks added to the similar bonus from the Maelstrom Inferno Staff's bonus against enemies in Wall of Elements, with a bar nearly full of Mage's Guild skills for incredible magicka regeneration sustainability.



Preferred Race


Based on racial passives it's obvious that Dunmer or Altmer would be ideal for this magicka-oriented build, especially given their elemental damage bonuses. Mine happens to be an Argonian, because I wanted to play a pink Saxhleel lady.



Recommended Equipment


This build is based on a very particular set of gear.


Spawn of Mephala (VR 16) undaunted helm and shoulders: (1 items) Adds 1064 Max Health (2 items) Fully charged heavy attacks have a 30% chance to create a web for 10 seconds. Web deals 1130 Magic Damage every 1.0 second and reduces Movement Speed by 50%. Preferably these would have the Divines trait and re-enchanted with Magicka glyphs. If one has a medium piece and a heavy piece, you get the additional benefit of the Undaunted passive skills. (Thieves Guild DLC PTS: Spawn of Mephala: Increased the proc chance of this item set to a 100% chance when you hit with a fully-charged Heavy Attack, up from 50%.)


Infallible Mage (VR 14) set robe, gloves, sash, breeches and shoes: (2 items) Adds 672 Spell Critical (3 items) Enemies you damage with fully charged heavy attacks have 10% reduced Physical and Spell Resistance. (4 items) Adds 126 Spell Damage (5 items) Your fully charged heavy attacks do an additional 567 damage. (5 items) Adds 672 Spell Critical/ The traits of this set are random as well, so hopefully you'll have run Sanctum enough times to get all Divines trait gear.


Destructive Mage (VR 12) set, 2 Aether Rings of Empowerment and one Aether Necklace of Undoing (all three of which have the Arcane trait and should be re-enchanted with Spell Damage glyphs). Adds 900 max magicka and Fully charged Heavy Attacks place a bomb on the enemy. This bomb will explode for 4551 Daedric Damage to nearby enemmies when another player hits it with a Heavy Attack. Bomb can be places once every 20 seconds.



Primary Bar: Maelstron Inferno Staff (Weighted trait, increases weapon attack speed by 12%) Enchantment: Targets affected by Wall of Elements take 387 additional damage from your Light and Heavy attacks. While equipped grants additional 190 Spell Damage.


Elemental Blockage (Slam your staff down to create an elemental barrier in front of you, dealing [x] Magic Damage to enemies in the target area every 0.5 seconds. Also applies an effect based on your staff's attack element: Blockade of Fire deals extra damage to burning enemies. Blockade of Frost reduces enemy Movement Speed and immobilizes chilled enemies. Blockade of Storms sets concussed enemies off balance. Lasts 8 seconds.

(Thieves Guild DLC PTS) Increased the damage for this ability and its morphs by 80%. Fixed an issue where Wall of Storms and its morphs were not setting concussed enemies off balance. Fixed an issue where the visual effects from Wall of Flame and Wall of Frost would not be removed when they were recast at a new location.


Molten Whip (Lash an enemy with flame for (x) Flame Damage and set immobile or stunned enemies off balance. While slotted, the damage of Ardent Flame Abilities is increased by (x). You can only set an enemy off balance once every 5 seconds)

Degeneration (Bind an enemy with chaotic magic, dealing 721 Magic Damage over 12 seconds and restoring 224 Health to you plus an additional 224 every 6 seconds. While active, your weapon attacks have a 15% chance to heal you for 115% of damage caused. Also grants Major Sorcery, increasing your Spell Damage by 20%.) This procs the Might of the Guild passive, granting Empower, increasing the damage of your next attack by 20% as long as it's activated within 5 seconds


Volcanic Rune (Inscribe a rune of cosmic fire on the earth that blasts an enemy entering the target area for 593 Flame Damage, knocking them back and stunning them for 4 seconds.) +6% damage due to World In Flames flame-based AoE passive bonus. This procs the Might of the Guild passive, granting Empower, increasing the damage of your next attack by 20% as long as it's activated within 5 seconds


Inner Light (Thieves Guild DLC PTS) This ability and its morphs are no longer toggle abilities; instead, they will grant their Critical Strike rating benefits as long as they are slotted. The Inner Light morph will continue to increase your maximum Magicka while slotted


(Ultimate) Shooting Star (Call a comet down from the constellations to blast an enemy, dealing 1437 Flame Damage to all enemies in the area and knocking them back. Grants you 12 Ultimate for each enemy hit. After impact, enemies in the target area take 457 Flame Damage every second for 10 seconds.) +6% damage due to World In Flames flame-based AoE passive bonus.



Secondary Bar: The Master's Ice Staff (precise trait)

Enchantment: Destructive Touch and morphs deals 900 additional damage and costs 12% less. Max Magicka is increased by 900 while the staff is equipped.


Destructive Clench (Devastate enemy with an enhanced charge from your staff, dealing [x] Magic Damage and [y] more over 8 seconds. Also applies an effect based on your staff's attack element: Flame Clench knocks back the enemy and deals more damage over time. Frost Clench immobilizes the enemy for longer. Shock Clench stuns the enemy and deals damage.


Deep Breath (Absorb [x] Health from up to 3 nearby enemy Nearby enemies casting are interrupted and then stunned and set off balance for 2 seconds. After 2.5 seconds, you exhale fire, dealing [x] Flame Damage to nearby enemies.) +6% damage due to World In Flames flame-based AoE passive bonus, and procs.. This is the only Dragonic ability slotted, and it procs the Burning Heart passive which increases healing received be 12% while activated.

(Thieves Guild DLC PTS) This morph no longer increases the damage of the exhale damage (the second hit) due to the baseline damage increases for Inhale, described below. It will continue to interrupt targets on the inhale (the first hit) as a morph effect. Increased the exhale damage (the second hit) from this ability and the Draw Essence morph by 40%. The Deep Breath morph has had its exhale damage increased by 16% to match this value. This ability and its morphs now hits 6 targets, increased from 3 targets, and follows standard area of effect damage guidelines for additional targets. Increased the cost of this ability and its morphs by 6%.


Engulfing Flames (Exhale a flaming blast, dealing (x) Flame Damage to enemies in front of you and an additional (y) Flame Damage over 8 seconds. Affected enemies take 7% additional damage from flame attacks.) Lasts 10 seconds with the passive Searing Heat, Warmth reduces movement speed for 4 seconds, damage +3% due to Searing Heat, and +[x} due to Molten Whip being slotted. This is an Ardent Flame ability, so gets the bonus from Molten Whip.


Cinder Storm (Summon a scorching cloud of ash at the target location, dealing (x) Flame Damage to enemies every 0.5 seconds for 15 seconds (Actually lasts 18 seconds due to Eternal Mountain passive). Also reduces enemies' Movement Speed by 70% for 2.5 seconds even if they leave the area.) +6% damage due to World In Flames flame-based AoE passive bonus, Mountain's Blessing passive grants 1 additional ultimate/6 seconds and grants allies within 30 meters Minor Brutality increasing weapon damage by 5% for 10 seconds, and restores 5% of Stamina due to the Helping Hands passive.


Molten Armaments (Charge your weapons with volcanic power to temporarily increase the damage of your fully charged heavy attacks by 40% for 8 seconds, with damage increased further by 150% against targets below 50% Health) (Thieves Guild DLC PTS) This morph now increases your own fully-charged Heavy Attack damage by 40% for 30 seconds in addition to granting the Major Sorcery buff. This morph will now apply the fully-charged Heavy Attack damage bonus to Lightning and Restoration Staves. This ability and its morphs now applies a 30 second Major Sorcery buff for you and nearby allies.


(Ultimate) Dragonknight Standard (Call down a flaming battle standard that deals (x) Flame Damage each second to nearby enemies and afflicts them with Major Defile, which reduces the effectiveness of healing on them by 30%. The standard also increases your damage by 20% and reduces the damage dealt to you by 20%. While the standard is up, an ally can activate Shackle to deal (x) Flame Damage and immobilize enemies in a 2.5m radius.)


MUNDUS


The Thief: The bonus to Spell Critical with 7 Legendary Divine Traits, if you happen to be so lucky as to have all Divines gear in an ensemble of 7 pieces of gear all of which are dropped with a random trait! This build is unusual in that it has neither Mage Light nor Inferno as a toggle on both bars, to fit more skills in, so it's nice to be able to boost one's spell critical chance with this Boon.



Combat In-Depth


Combat for a Lamp Knight is based on the following skill rotation:

1.Molten Armaments (8 second duration)


2.Elemental Blockade (8 second duration)


3.Volcanic Rune (4 second stun)


4.Heavy Attack since Volcanic Rune just proc'd Empower from Might of the Guild


5.Cider Storm (18 second duration)


6.Frost Clench (8 second CC)


7.Engulfing Flames (10 second duration DoT and +7% flame damage)


8.Elemental Blockage (to keep the Maelstrom staff damage bonus proc'd)


9.Molten Whip (to set enemy off balance once per 5 seconds)


10.Molten Armaments (8 second duration)


11.Degeneration (14.4 second duration and proc'd Empower)


12.Heavy Attack


13.Deep Breath i(f needed for self-heal and interrupt)



After the Thieves Guild DLC patch arrives hopefully the Spawn of Mephala set will still always proc 100% of the time on a heavy attack, and since it does Magic damage the Lamp Knight's Elemental Expert will now boost the damage of the Webs DoT. In any event, once you've stunned an opponent with a Rune (fire damage) so they'll hold still long enough for you to hit them with a heavy attack, they will then be snared already and have a daedric bomb places on them. When working in concert with another player who uses heavy attacks this will grant another damage boost, much higher than it appears on ESO sites online. Cinder Storm will further hamper their ability to come at you for a counter attack, adding another fire DoT to Elemental Blockage. Then Frost Clench them to freeze them in ice and hit them with Engulfing Flames to add another fire DoT and increase the flame damage yet more. If they're still moving around at that point use Molten Whip to set them off balance, recast Molten Armaments which has probably ended from the first cast, Degeneration for another DoT and to Proc Empower once again for another Heavy Attack.


One's heavy attacks incur a -10% resistance on the target in addition to other Light Armor, Destructive Staff and Champion passive bonuses to penetration, +387 damage or so while standing in your Blockage and +567 or so from the Infallible Mage 5 piece Set bonus, +7% from Engulfing Flames, +66% to the burning status effect (which passives give a 100% chance to proc), +12% from Tri Focus, +14.3% Elemental Expert damage bonus, +20.4% from Staff Expert and a not inconsiderable Magicka restoration from heavy attacks and from killing an opponent with a Destruction Staff ability. This allows you to be rather profligate with Magicka spending, especially with all the Mage's Guild and Light Armor and other magicka regenation bonuses.


In total the Destruction Staff heavy attack bonuses stack up to about +950 or so extra damage with a further +121% damage bonus, or +286% versus low health targets. This last number seems to be coming to an end with the severe Molten Armaments nerf from the Thieves Guild DLC patch and probably justifies moving the build's CP from Atronach to have only 30 points devoted to Staff Expert and instead dump them all into the Apprentice for more Elemental Expert and Elfborn bonuses, which are reflected below in the Champion Points which I've rejiggered in light of the changes currently on the PTS, taking all of the points out of Atronach and thus losing the +5% light and heavy weapon attack bonus against low damage targets below 20% health. Which is too bad; as you can see, the numbers above were exceptional when I first designed this build. After the initial 120 CP per tree this build is based on you can then spend any further points in Staff Expert. It would still be better to put a bunch of points into Staff Expert for single target DPS but since this is a group utility build it's hard to overlook the utility of Arcane Well and some extra Spell Precision. If I could I would test both versions and see what's most useful.


The Thieves Guild molten armaments nerf really does terrible disservice to this, one of the only really interesting Heavy Attack builds possible, but had I access to all of the gear that is required (I am missing some Infallible Aether due to being away from the game for 7 months and coming back after people essentially stopped running Sanctum) I would greatly enjoy playing this build as a change of pace. I can't count the number of times I've recently wished that everything was snared (for instance in the Maw of Lorkaj trial) and would stop running all over the place.



PASSIVE SKILLS of relevance:


•Kindling (Increases the damage of flame abilities' burning effect by 66%)


•Warmth (Damaging enemies with Ardent Flame abilities also reduces their movement speed by 30% for 4 seconds.)


•World In Flames (Increases the damage of flame-based area of effect abilities by 6%)


•Magicka Controller (Increases Max Magicka and Magicka Regeneration by 2% for each Mages Guild ability slotted) This should make it a +8% bonus once Shooting Star is fixed.


•Might of the Guild (Casting a Mages Guild ability grants Empower, increasing the damage of your next attack by 20% as long as it's activated within 5 seconds.) (rather than using Empowering Chains) (Thieves Guild DLC PTS) Might of the Guild: This passive ability can now proc the Empower buff from Magelight and its morphs


•Tri Focus (While using a Destruction Staff Heavy Attack: Grants bonus affects based on the element used: Fully charged heavy fire attacks deal 12% additional damage. Fully charged heavy frost attacks grant a damage shield that absorbs 2[x] damage. Fully charged heavy shock attacks damage nearby enemies for 100% of the damage done)


•Penetrating Magic (With Destruction Staff equipped: Allows your Destruction Staff spells to ignore 10% of an enemy's Spell Resistance)


•Elemental Force (With Destruction Staff equipped Increases your chance of afflicting enemies with Burning, Concussion, and Chilled status effects by 100%.)


•Ancient Knowledge (With Destruction Staff equipped: Reduces the time it takes to charge a heavy attack by 10%.)


•Destruction Expert (With Destruction Staff equipped: Restores 2[x] Magicka when you kill a target with a Destruction Staff spell or Weapon attack.)


•Mountain's Blessing (Thieves Guild DLC PTS) Mountain’s Blessing: This passive ability now grants the Minor Brutality buff any time an Earthen Heart ability is activated. The Ultimate gain portion of the passive still can only be granted while you are in combat, and the tooltip has been updated to convey this.


•Undaunted Mettle (Increase your Max Health, Stamina and Magicka by 2% per type of Armor (Heavy, Medium, Light) that you have equipped.) Thus +6% for each due to using a pair of heavy and medium Undaunted set pieces.


•Undaunted Command (Activating a Synergy ability restores 4% of your Max Health, Stamina and Magicka.)


•Evocation (With one or more pieces of Light Armor equipped: Reduces the Magicka cost of spells by 3% per piece of light armor equipped.)


•Recovery (With one or more pieces of Light Armor equipped: Increases Magicka Recovery by 4% per piece of light armor equipped.). +20% for 5 pieces of Light Armor worn; the constant fully charged heavy attacks and 4 Mage's Guild abilities slotted on the main bar make this build's magicka regeneration very high.


•Prodigy (When a Light Armor set of 5 or more pieces is equipped: Increases your Spell Critical rating by 2191.) Even with the medium and heavy Undaunted pieces this build still receives this bonus.


•Concentration (When a Light Armor set of 5 or more pieces is equipped: Increases you Spell Penetration by 4884.)


•Wind Walker (With one or more pieces of Medium Armor equipped: Increases Stamina Recovery by 4% per piece of Medium Armor equipped. Also reduces the Stamina cost of abilities by 3% per piece of Medium Armor equipped.) Hepful for dodge rolls and such.


•Athletics (With one or more pieces of Medium Armor equipped: Increases your Movement Speed while sprinting by 3% and reduces the Stamina cost of Dodge Roll by 4% per piece of Medium Armor equipped.) Improves the utility of Undaunted passives and using all 3 armor types.


•Constitution (With one or more pieces of Heavy Armor equipped: Increases Health Recovery by 4% per piece of Heavy Armor equipped. Also restores Magicka and Stamina each time you are hit, but only once every 4 seconds. Amount restored is increased per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.)


•Juggernaut (With one or more pieces of Heavy Armor equipped: Increases Max Health by 1% per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.) Just +1% but a worth the skill points if you're wearing 3 types of armor anyway.


•Rapid Mending (With one or more pieces of Heavy Armor equipped: Increases healing received by 1% per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.)




CHAMPION POINTS


APPRENTICE 120

•Elemental Expert 75 Increases your Flame, Frost and Shock damage by 20.4% (Thieves Guild DLC PTS) This ability now increases Flame, Frost, Shock, and Magic Damage dealt by you, instead of Flame, Frost, and Shock Damage only.


•Elfborn 30 Increases your Spell Critical damage and healing by 10.8%


•Spell Erosion 15 Increases the amount of Spell Resistance your spells ignore by 6.6%


•Vengeance Guarantees your next spell will be a critical hit after you block three spells.


•Spell Precision Increases your spell critical rating by 12%


•Foresight Reduces the Magicka cost of your next spell by 80% after you drink a potion.


•Arcane Well Gives you a 20% chance when you kill an enemy of opening an Arcane Well, which restores X Magicka to you and any allies within 2.5 meters of the enemy.


TOWER 90

•Magician 80 Reduces the magicka cost of spells by 13.9%


•Ensnare grants a 33% chance to reduce an enemy's movement speed by 20% for 3 seconds any time you hit them with a bash attack


•Inspiration boost Increases inspiration gain by 20%


•Mara's Gift When killed heal all allies in an 8 meter radius for X


LOVER 30

•Arcanist increases your magicka regeneration by 10.8%


•Plentiful Harvest granst you a 10% chance to double the yield from normal resource nodes.


•Synergizer Grants 2 Ultimate any time you activate a synergy.


SHADOW 10

•Defile Inceases the effectiveness of healing reduction abilities by 5.7%


•Fortune Seeker Increases the amount of gold you find in treasure chests by 50%


STEED 30

•Block Expertise 15 Reduces the cost of blocking by 6.6%


•Spell Shield 15 Increases spell resistance by 6.6% (Thieves Guild DLC PTS) This ability now grants a flat amount of Spell Resistance per point spent that scales with your level, instead of granting a percentage increase to Spell Resistance.


•Invigorating Bash Gives you a 20% chance to restore X health when you bash an enemy.


•Phase After roll dodging, your armor and spell resistance is increased by X for 3 seconds


LADY 75

•Elemental Defender 30 Reduces flame, frost, and shock damage dealt to you by 10.8% (Thieves Guild DLC PTS) This ability now reduces Flame, Frost, Shock, and Magic Damage dealt to you, instead of Flame, Frost, and Shock Damage only.


•Thick Skinned 10 Reduces the damage you take from damage over time effects by 4.9%


•Hardy 35 Reduces poison, disease, and magic damage dealt to you by 12% (Thieves Guild DLC PTS) This ability now reduces Poison, Disease, and Physical Damage dealt to you, instead of Poison, Disease, and Magical Damage.


•Spell Absorption Restores X magicka when you take magic damage equivalent to 30% of your health. This can only occur once every 10 seconds.


•Resilient Restores X health when you are hit by a critical hit Critical


•Critical Leech After critically striking a target, restore X health. This can only occur once every 5 seconds.


LORD 15

•Bastion 5


•Nourishing 3


•Quick Recovery 7

Field Physician Reduces damage received while resurrecting another player by 15%.

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

OK, so there was a thread for this, but it closed for review most likely because of the disgusting, unwarranted behaviour directed at Wrobel. In case you missed it, he was actually trying to help Stam DKs so you don't have to split points between so many trees and consolidate all your DoT damage into Mighty, just like magicka doesn't need to any more.
No other details were given because it was just something he was thinking about, yet a lot of people went on a rant for no reason.

I was late to the party on that post before it was closed so I just wanted to give my take on it in a constructive manner.

Honestly, I like it, if it's done right. There's a few things they need to think about.

1. If you're stamina, the ardent flame passives will need to enhance poison damage, not flame
2. People roll Dark Elves to get the most out of DKs with their increased flame damage. A solution is to have 7% flame and 7% poison damage bonus, making the Dark Elf truly versatile for both Magicka and Stam builds, while at the same time not breaking the passive for existing dark elves. Considering poison and flame are separate entities as far as magicka and stam damage goes, I don't think it'd be too much of a problem to add this. Another option is to give them a 4% increase to all disease, poison and flame damage, but I think the first option is going to be the safest.

If they were looked into and done correctly it could be a really nice change. Dark Elf is about being dynamic. They already have max stam and magicka, having a passive to increase their poison (physical) and flame (magicka) damage just makes sense to me anyway.

Feel free to leave a comment, but PLEASE keep it civil and remember Wrobel never said he was intending on doing this - it was just an idea to help stam DKs, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I'd say I give bosmer a poision and disease dmg to compliment their resistance bonus bonus. This would help a lot as well as I see new possibilities on stam dk with sheer venom set and a bow. They should also add a stam moroh for ash cloud like toxic cloud or acid cloud maybe sulphur cloud. Also a lava whip morph acid whip make it hit hard up front and apply a poison dot.
Overall the poison morphs make sense I mean its akaviri martial arts and according to lore akaviri are a bunch of snake men and monsters so fire breathing venom spewing etc makes sense.

Sure buff another already useful dominion race come on already statistically the dominion bound races have the best passives over all the alliances yet you want one of them to be BETTER. the pact needs something as it is the only alliance with not one but two races that fail the meta test give agonians this one.

Not all of us play in our races faction not to mention wood elf only has stamina rec as a positive 3% max stam is pitiful

skavenapsb16_ESO wrote: »

Why you wanna make Dark Elf the master race? His strong point on all elder scrolls was the fire damage. There will be always race that marry better with some classes or some play styles, but enforce this with another buff to DE don't make any sense

I don't want to many any the master race. I don't even play Dark Elf, but I know those who do, and they chose that race because of the increased flame damage for their DKs.
Don't you think they are going to be upset if the entire tree is changed to poison damage, being completely ignored by their flame racial passive?
This is why I put it in the suggestion.