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which is better? Graphics cards.

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Nvidia gt 730 1gb ddr3 OR Radeon HD 6670 2gb?

Systrem is
Intel core i5 4460
Lenovo sharkbay board
8gb ram ddr3

ESO FPS = average 35

I think they are about the same. Currently running the gt730 but have acquired the Rasdeon hd6670. Don't know whether to swap.

Thanks.
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  • vamp_emily
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    Nvidia gt 730 1gb ddr3 OR Radeon HD 6670 2gb?

    Systrem is
    Intel core i5 4460
    Lenovo sharkbay board
    8gb ram ddr3

    ESO FPS = average 35

    I think they are about the same. Currently running the gt730 but have acquired the Rasdeon hd6670. Don't know whether to swap.

    Thanks.

    Not sure which one is better, but just from looking at the specs I would go with th HD 6670 2gb.

    Likes my GTX 980M 8GB :)


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  • Bossdonut
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    I hate amd so nvidia all the way.
  • Tandor
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    Have you compared their benchmark ratings on a site like Tom's Hardware? If they turn out to be broadly comparable then it's down to whether you have a preference as between AMD and Nvidia and people have their own personal bias in that respect!
  • Egonic
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    Higher Vram is beneficial for games, if they have roughly the same performance higher Vram is better.
    You can easily google it http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gt+730+vs+radeon+hd+6670
  • Lysette
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    Yeah, I have a Nvidia bias as well - with Nvidia comes PhysX, which makes some games more fun to play, and CUDA technology is by far superior to OpenCL based massively parallel computation. So to me it's Nvidia.

    I had the 730 card for quite a while in combination with an i5 and I liked that this card runs pretty "cool" and is not noisy at all.

    Edit: My current gaming card is the 760 GTX, which runs ESO at max settings with about 45 fps in busy towns and around 70 fps outdoors. But this card has an average temperature around 75"C and is not silent.
    Edited by Lysette on February 15, 2016 10:16AM
  • pipelighter
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Have you compared their benchmark ratings on a site like Tom's Hardware? If they turn out to be broadly comparable then it's down to whether you have a preference as between AMD and Nvidia and people have their own personal bias in that respect!
    Tandor wrote: »
    Have you compared their benchmark ratings on a site like Tom's Hardware? If they turn out to be broadly comparable then it's down to whether you have a preference as between AMD and Nvidia and people have their own personal bias in that respect!

    Yup - have done all the comparisons and agree they are pretty similar. One has 2gb ram and the other has 1gb ram. Alwyas felt that 2gb ram is better and overall they have different strengths, Really just need a push over the cliff edsge on either side 'cos I can't decide. Silly really.
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  • Reevster
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    Both benchmark badly.... The Radeon is slightly better but still poor.

    videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+730&id=2906


    videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+6670&id=96

    Spend some extra money if you can and get this card. Its $200 but pretty much the best performance for the money for a decent entry lvl card.

    MSI GeForce GTX 950 DirectX 12 GTX 950 2GD5 OC 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

    Benchmarks at 5245 vs 1000 or less with those other two.



    videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+950&id=3295



    Here is neweggs link to the one I bought. its short enough to fit into a tight rig and power consumption is low enough so you shouldnt need to upgrade your power supply asuming your psu has a 6 connector power feed for a GPU.

    newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127919
    Edited by Reevster on February 15, 2016 10:27AM
  • Spottswoode
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    Get the gt730 2gb ddr5. It's close to the same price and substantially better.
    http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Profile-Graphics-02G-P3-3733-KR/dp/B00L5GZG5C
    You probably understand by now that these are temporary graphics cards at best.

    The GTX 660 or HD7870 are probably the lowest spec graphics card I'd settle for with this generation.
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  • Tandor
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Yeah, I have a Nvidia bias as well - with Nvidia comes PhysX, which makes some games more fun to play, and CUDA technology is by far superior to OpenCL based massively parallel computation. So to me it's Nvidia.

    I had the 730 card for quite a while in combination with an i5 and I liked that this card runs pretty "cool" and is not noisy at all.

    Edit: My current gaming card is the 760 GTX, which runs ESO at max settings with about 45 fps in busy towns and around 70 fps outdoors. But this card has an average temperature around 75"C and is not silent.

    That was pretty much my experience (but reasonably high settings rather than max) with a 1GB GTX560ti which I also used to run other games like Fallout 4 and Witcher 3 with ok but on medium settings and always with temperatures around 75C. A couple of weeks ago I upgraded to a 2GB GTX960 and the difference is amazing, ESO looks even better with slightly higher settings while Fallout 4 is now played super smoothly on ultra. I have a Gigabytes card with their Windforce technology and all my games run under load in the mid-40s to mid-50s max.The card has two fans, both running at about 20% although the second one doesn't always kick in depending on the game. There's no difference in sound levels between idling and gaming. To say I've been impressed with the new card would be a serious understatement!
  • babylon
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    I would try to get a better card than either of them if I was you - get a gaming card (I prefer nvidia, so at least a 760/960). Anything from them with a suffix of 60 or higher is a gaming card, anything below that number aren't cards for gaming.
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    The entire GeForce line is designed for 3d graphics cards. Higher numbers are better though.
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  • babylon
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    What I mean by "gaming card" is a card that is decent for playing games with. A suffix ~30 card just isn't going to be much fun especially in this game.
    The second number indicates how powerful the card is within its series....

    0-2 indicates a graphics card using shared system memory. These graphics cards, along with any graphics card made by Intel, have the lowest performance. You can only expect to be able to play older games with these cards. These cards can be found in any notebook.

    3-5 indicates a lower powered graphics card. These will be able to play more recent games, but generally on lower settings. These cards can be found in all but the smallest notebooks.

    6-7 indicates a midrange or performance graphics card. These will be able to play the latest games, but will not always be able to play them at high settings. These cards can be found on notebooks with a 14? screen and bigger.

    8-9 indicates a high-end graphics card. These are designed to play the latest games at high settings. While there are a few notebooks with a 15? screen that have these, most notebooks with a high-end graphics card have 17? or larger screens.

    While the performance number (second digit) is the most important one for graphics cards, the series number (first digit) also has an effect, since in general, newer series have better performance.

    Click for source.
    Edited by babylon on February 15, 2016 12:47PM
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    babylon wrote: »
    What I mean by "gaming card" is a card that is decent for playing games with. A suffix ~30 card just isn't going to be much fun especially in this game.
    The second number indicates how powerful the card is within its series....

    0-2 indicates a graphics card using shared system memory. These graphics cards, along with any graphics card made by Intel, have the lowest performance. You can only expect to be able to play older games with these cards. These cards can be found in any notebook.

    3-5 indicates a lower powered graphics card. These will be able to play more recent games, but generally on lower settings. These cards can be found in all but the smallest notebooks.

    6-7 indicates a midrange or performance graphics card. These will be able to play the latest games, but will not always be able to play them at high settings. These cards can be found on notebooks with a 14? screen and bigger.

    8-9 indicates a high-end graphics card. These are designed to play the latest games at high settings. While there are a few notebooks with a 15? screen that have these, most notebooks with a high-end graphics card have 17? or larger screens.

    While the performance number (second digit) is the most important one for graphics cards, the series number (first digit) also has an effect, since in general, newer series have better performance.

    Click for source.

    That is correct - a -30 suffix stands for low budget and/or low energy usage - it supports the features of it's class, but it will most of the time require to either lower resolution or cut back to medium quality.
  • WalkingLegacy
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    OP

    The 6670 is a bit better in performance over the 730. I'd swap them but make sure you find AMDs legacy driver back to that card. Newer drivers of theirs don't tend to work on their older cards.

    Don't get anything less than a GTX960. You're only wasting your money going for an ultra cheap and older GPU
    Edited by WalkingLegacy on February 15, 2016 2:52PM
  • Elijah_Crow
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    OP

    Don't get anything less than a GTX960. You're only wasting your money going for an ultra cheap and older GPU

    He is right. Get a card which can take advantage of DX12 and other new technologies. I just built two new PC's for my wife and I and went with GTX970's in both and they are fantastic. ESO maxed out with over 100 FPS.

    I personally recommend https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/TURBOGTX970OC4GD5/

    This is the coolest (temperature) Nvidia card I have ever owned. I don't think I've seen it break 70 Celsius even under load and most of the time is about 50.

    Edited by Elijah_Crow on February 15, 2016 2:59PM
  • WalkingLegacy
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    OP

    Don't get anything less than a GTX960. You're only wasting your money going for an ultra cheap and older GPU

    He is right. Get a card which can take advantage of DX12 and other new technologies. I just built two new PC's for my wife and I and went with GTX970's in both and they are fantastic. ESO maxed out with over 100 FPS.

    I personally recommend https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/TURBOGTX970OC4GD5/

    This is the coolest (temperature) Nvidia card I have ever owned. I don't think I've seen it break 70 Celsius even under load and most of the time is about 50.

    Twin Frozr card is the best stock GPU air cooler on the market. Those come from MSI.

    Like the MSI GTX970ME and I had the MSI 6970 Lightning before that.
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    He is right. Get a card which can take advantage of DX12 and other new technologies. I just built two new PC's for my wife and I and went with GTX970's in both and they are fantastic. ESO maxed out with over 100 FPS.
    How does GTX 970 perform in large Cyrodiil battles? From the videos I've seen, it seems 980Ti paired with 5820K still drops down to around 30-40 fps, and lower end systems drop much lower.
  • WalkingLegacy
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    He is right. Get a card which can take advantage of DX12 and other new technologies. I just built two new PC's for my wife and I and went with GTX970's in both and they are fantastic. ESO maxed out with over 100 FPS.
    How does GTX 970 perform in large Cyrodiil battles? From the videos I've seen, it seems 980Ti paired with 5820K still drops down to around 30-40 fps, and lower end systems drop much lower.

    It performs good, but like you said even a 980TI will drop. This is not an indication to the lack of card power but a lack of efficiency on the client server side.

    My GTX970ME does 50-60fps average in the game world with everything maxed @ 1080P. In Cyrodil with large group battles it becomes a powerpoint presentation. (Hero engine has never been good with multiple people on screen)
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    He is right. Get a card which can take advantage of DX12 and other new technologies. I just built two new PC's for my wife and I and went with GTX970's in both and they are fantastic. ESO maxed out with over 100 FPS.
    How does GTX 970 perform in large Cyrodiil battles? From the videos I've seen, it seems 980Ti paired with 5820K still drops down to around 30-40 fps, and lower end systems drop much lower.

    It performs good, but like you said even a 980TI will drop. This is not an indication to the lack of card power but a lack of efficiency on the client server side.

    My GTX970ME does 50-60fps average in the game world with everything maxed @ 1080P. In Cyrodil with large group battles it becomes a powerpoint presentation. (Hero engine has never been good with multiple people on screen)

    30-40 fps in large Cyrodiil battles would be fantastic in my view. Just trying to confirm what is the minimum level of hardware needed for this kind of performance before dropping a lot of $$ on 980Ti and 5820k.
    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on February 15, 2016 4:02PM
  • infraction2008b16_ESO
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    Get the gt730 2gb ddr5.

    I don't know why someone would recommend such a card for gaming as they are more intended for providing multi monitor support for general multimedia applications rather than a gaming card.

    I mean as for raw performance goes you could probably pick up an older card off ebay for cheaper that'll demolish it.
  • WalkingLegacy
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    He is right. Get a card which can take advantage of DX12 and other new technologies. I just built two new PC's for my wife and I and went with GTX970's in both and they are fantastic. ESO maxed out with over 100 FPS.
    How does GTX 970 perform in large Cyrodiil battles? From the videos I've seen, it seems 980Ti paired with 5820K still drops down to around 30-40 fps, and lower end systems drop much lower.

    It performs good, but like you said even a 980TI will drop. This is not an indication to the lack of card power but a lack of efficiency on the client server side.

    My GTX970ME does 50-60fps average in the game world with everything maxed @ 1080P. In Cyrodil with large group battles it becomes a powerpoint presentation. (Hero engine has never been good with multiple people on screen)

    30-40 fps in large Cyrodiil battles would be fantastic in my view. Just trying to confirm what is the minimum level of hardware needed for this kind of performance before dropping a lot of $$ on 980Ti and 5820k.

    I know this is said a lot, but Nvidia Pascal is right around the corner, and if you have the money to drop on a 980TI would wait until the Pascal cards drop for even more performance.

    I could buy all new hardware but I am going to build a new machine around Star Citizen and that won't be out for a while. My i7 950, 12GB of ram and array of SSD do just fine until it drops. I upgraded my GPU from the 6970 Lightnings to the GTX970 to hold me over until I really need to upgrade.
  • wolfydog
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    I would definatly get at least a gtx 950 if you can. If you want to up the budget even more you could go for a 970, but if your computer already has such a weak card in it, that might mean a PSU upgrade too. Assuming you probably have a prebuilt so its probably a cheaper PSU in it already.

    If you only play ESO the 950 would be perfect. You'd would get 60fps most of the time in this game, prolly just drop a bit in busy cities and pvp.
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    Anything less than a ~60 is rubbish.
  • Reevster
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    If you buy a new 2 fan card make sure it will fit.... i would have had to cut about an inch into my drive bays to make a dual fan GPU fit into my case , so went with the shorter card, plus I couldn't see spending $700 plus for a 980 video card to put in my $400 budget rig.

    Someday I will build a better system but I don't have $2000 to toss around atm.
  • Chori
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    Nvidia gt 730 1gb ddr3 OR Radeon HD 6670 2gb?

    Systrem is
    Intel core i5 4460
    Lenovo sharkbay board
    8gb ram ddr3

    ESO FPS = average 35

    I think they are about the same. Currently running the gt730 but have acquired the Rasdeon hd6670. Don't know whether to swap.

    Thanks.

    If you are looking for FPS improvements on ESO, change that CPU and get something better. ESO is CPU reliant meaning that no matter what card you have if you dont have an expensive I7 the game will run like crap and even sometimes when you do have it, it will still run like crap. I have a EVGA 960 SC and cyrodil mass fights still put me under 10fps.

    Do not use ESO as your objective to swap hardware specially video cards, this game is poorly optimized and will remain to be so until we get a 64bit client and DX12 support.
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  • Elijah_Crow
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    He is right. Get a card which can take advantage of DX12 and other new technologies. I just built two new PC's for my wife and I and went with GTX970's in both and they are fantastic. ESO maxed out with over 100 FPS.
    How does GTX 970 perform in large Cyrodiil battles? From the videos I've seen, it seems 980Ti paired with 5820K still drops down to around 30-40 fps, and lower end systems drop much lower.

    I can't really compare as I'm currently running a 6700K - 4GHZ (stock, not overclocked) with 32GB of DDR4 2800 Ram. I haven't been in any of the serious Cyrodiil lag spikes as since getting the new rigs as I've been PvE'ing mostly since then waiting for the new siege changes before spending a ton of time out there. With DPS spiking from 100 fps to 180 fps, I've turned on vsync as I was getting some occasional tearing. Haven't dropped below 60 FPS anywhere (monitor refresh rate) since doing so.
    Edited by Elijah_Crow on February 15, 2016 8:22PM
  • Spottswoode
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    Get the gt730 2gb ddr5.

    I don't know why someone would recommend such a card for gaming as they are more intended for providing multi monitor support for general multimedia applications rather than a gaming card.

    I mean as for raw performance goes you could probably pick up an older card off ebay for cheaper that'll demolish it.

    If you trust the seller to give you a working card that won't fall apart the minute you put it in, sure. Also, I didn't strictly recommend it for gaming.
    Get the gt730 2gb ddr5. It's close to the same price and substantially better.
    http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Profile-Graphics-02G-P3-3733-KR/dp/B00L5GZG5C
    You probably understand by now that these are temporary graphics cards at best.

    The GTX 660 or HD7870 are probably the lowest spec graphics card I'd settle for with this generation.
    As far as budget cards go, it's decent.
    Also, I misread his OP. I didn't see he had the HD 6670. The two cards are close in performance, but the HD 6670 has a higher FLOP rate.
    Edited by Spottswoode on February 18, 2016 6:02PM
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  • deleted008293
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    Everything lies in details. I think this game is fairy heavy on CPU. The higher the IPC and the clock the better. More cores doesn't help much but you need at least 4 for today games anyway. I have FX4100, 8GB DDR3 and GTX660 2GB and I play on ultra at 1080p. Depending on areas i'm visiting I get anything from 15 to 60+ fps, except in PvP situations. There you can't control the performance because it depends on so many factors. But overall I get even worse performance sometimes so I have to lower the details (in PvP). But for PvE it runs smooth ouside big cities. Still I found out that skilled players will throw your system to the ground in trials when they all start nuking bosses. Lowering the details doesn't help too much but it works wonder. Draw distance seems to be the heaviest.

    Between 730GT and 6670 the 2nd one seems to be a little better. Also for 1080p you will need about 1,5GB VRAM if not more. But memory capacity alone isn't enough if the GPU is weak. Better get more money and buy something like GTX960 4GB or equivalent video card from the other competitor. Just for ESO it might be overkill but in other heavy 3D games it will work wonders.
    Edited by deleted008293 on February 18, 2016 7:20PM
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    NVIDIA GeForce is best
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