Returning player thinking of playing again

bugulu · February 2016

Hi everyone,

I bought and played the game at release and until the end of summer 2014. I decided to leave the game after mostly time limit from my part.
Have been thinking for some time of coming back but would love to get some feedback on several of the issues that I had a problem with and see if they still persists. I was a PvP player back then with my second home being Cyrodiil and that's what I intend to focus on again.

1) Dragon Knights back in the days dominated everyone. A single Dragon Knight could easily take out a bunch of players and no class even came to its lethality.
How do they fare now? Are they still the monsters of wars capable of obliterating the whole enemy team laying siege to an outpost? Are Dragon Knights vampires still the favoured route to go?

2) What's the primary tactic of Cyrodiil nowadays? Previously you had train-chains where a bunch of player move in a forward line and the one and only counter is to kill them off the stragglers and slowmoes one at the time. Is this still a popular and viable tactic?

Elloa · February 2016

I'm not PVPing but I can tell you reading all complains here and there, that Dragonknight are not dominating. Seems nightblade and Sorcerers are the kings nowadays.

Xendyn · February 2016

Lag, loading screens and FPS drops are the most popular tactic in Cyro these days.

Thanks ZOS

Ra'Shtar · February 2016

1) Its possible by every class now, taking on zergs is very easy if you are skilled and yes if you PvP vampire is the way to go.
2) Cyrodiil is pretty much the same except now the lagg is awful and its going to take a while to fix it.

My advice is don't come back just yet wait 3 or 4 more months if you can't take the negative sides of ESO.

bugulu · February 2016

Lag in Cyrodiil? Again?
Heck, I remember that we had major issues shortly after release with constant crashings and major frame drops.
I am dissapointed that the issues we had then seems to be back now.

Strychnox · February 2016

DK's have taken a hit, but the game is soooo much better with all the new content you missed and we're getting more.

Flaminir · February 2016

Game is better...... Lag is the same. (Though they say they have major improvements coming in a couple of weeks in the next DLC to help with this).

DK's took a hit... but are about to get buffed again in the next DLC. Sorc's & NB's are currently top of the tree in PVP

Draxys · February 2016

bugulu wrote: »

Lag in Cyrodiil? Again?
Heck, I remember that we had major issues shortly after release with constant crashings and major frame drops.
I am dissapointed that the issues we had then seems to be back now.

To be fair, all classes could zergdive and shred people like DK could at launch, DKs were just the easiest to figure it out on. But the times have changed. NBs and sorcs are top dogs and most likely will be for the foreseeable future.

Still some frame drop issues but none that bring it down to 1-4 fps. Even lame Internet and computer specs can get 15-25 in intense fights.

And ignore the guy telling you it's easy to kill zergs, he must be playing on console where players are much worse. On PC, large groups are utterly unkillable if organized correctly unless you have giant masses of players all swarming them at once, which will make the server lag anyway.

However, the incoming update should make things better. Siege effects not able to be purged, damage increased, new sets that are designed to punish groups stacking. Encouraging, but we'll see what happens.

Artjuh90 · February 2016

Draxys wrote: »

bugulu wrote: »

Lag in Cyrodiil? Again?
Heck, I remember that we had major issues shortly after release with constant crashings and major frame drops.
I am dissapointed that the issues we had then seems to be back now.

To be fair, all classes could zergdive and shred people like DK could at launch, DKs were just the easiest to figure it out on. But the times have changed. NBs and sorcs are top dogs and most likely will be for the foreseeable future.

Still some frame drop issues but none that bring it down to 1-4 fps. Even lame Internet and computer specs can get 15-25 in intense fights.

And ignore the guy telling you it's easy to kill zergs, he must be playing on console where players are much worse. On PC, large groups are utterly unkillable if organized correctly unless you have giant masses of players all swarming them at once, which will make the server lag anyway.

However, the incoming update should make things better. Siege effects not able to be purged, damage increased, new sets that are designed to punish groups stacking. Encouraging, but we'll see what happens.

templars never could and never will

Draxys · February 2016

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Draxys wrote: »

bugulu wrote: »

Lag in Cyrodiil? Again?
Heck, I remember that we had major issues shortly after release with constant crashings and major frame drops.
I am dissapointed that the issues we had then seems to be back now.

To be fair, all classes could zergdive and shred people like DK could at launch, DKs were just the easiest to figure it out on. But the times have changed. NBs and sorcs are top dogs and most likely will be for the foreseeable future.

Still some frame drop issues but none that bring it down to 1-4 fps. Even lame Internet and computer specs can get 15-25 in intense fights.

And ignore the guy telling you it's easy to kill zergs, he must be playing on console where players are much worse. On PC, large groups are utterly unkillable if organized correctly unless you have giant masses of players all swarming them at once, which will make the server lag anyway.

However, the incoming update should make things better. Siege effects not able to be purged, damage increased, new sets that are designed to punish groups stacking. Encouraging, but we'll see what happens.

templars never could and never will

Blazing shield, spears, devouring swarm

Dark_Aether · February 2016

It looks like this to me:

Magika Sorc
Stam Nightblade
Magika Nightblade
Stam DK
Stam Templar
Magika Templar
Stam Sorc
Magika DK

All can be good but the lower you go down the list the more skill is required in PVP

Sausage · February 2016

DKs are still strong but not even nearly as strong.

imredneckson · February 2016

bugulu wrote: »

Hi everyone,

I bought and played the game at release and until the end of summer 2014. I decided to leave the game after mostly time limit from my part.
Have been thinking for some time of coming back but would love to get some feedback on several of the issues that I had a problem with and see if they still persists. I was a PvP player back then with my second home being Cyrodiil and that's what I intend to focus on again.

1) Dragon Knights back in the days dominated everyone. A single Dragon Knight could easily take out a bunch of players and no class even came to its lethality.
How do they fare now? Are they still the monsters of wars capable of obliterating the whole enemy team laying siege to an outpost? Are Dragon Knights vampires still the favoured route to go?

2) What's the primary tactic of Cyrodiil nowadays? Previously you had train-chains where a bunch of player move in a forward line and the one and only counter is to kill them off the stragglers and slowmoes one at the time. Is this still a popular and viable tactic?

Magicka DKs of old were exterminated but the IC patch which removed perma-blocking now very few can play a magicka DK in PvP and survive in a fight. The primary tactic in Cyrodiil now is get as many players as you can to got to one keep and take it over. Thanks to AOE caps skill is not needed as much as numbers.
The major problem in Cyrodiil right now is the lag it's insane how bad it's become. Sadly nothing has even been done to fix it and it feels like each patch the loading screens become longer and more common and the lag gets worse and lasts longer.

xellink · February 2016

bugulu wrote: »

Lag in Cyrodiil? Again?
Heck, I remember that we had major issues shortly after release with constant crashings and major frame drops.
I am dissapointed that the issues we had then seems to be back now.

from a mac perspective, the game is much more playable now. cyro used to be unplayable for me. now its very good on certain servers like bwb

WalkingLegacy · February 2016

If you're coming back for PvP I would turn away. Come back in another year.

Dradhok · February 2016

If you can stomach the lag in Cyrodiil then you’ll basically come back to the game you left. Nightblades and Sorcs are both very strong right now. As with any class balance there are some advantages, but skill and time dedicated to the game will make a difference.

bugulu · February 2016

Thanks for the reply everyone. I'll probably wait a little while until atleast I hear some better feedback regarding the issues people are experiencing in Cyrodiil.

RatedChaotic · February 2016

PvPing I wouldnt bother coming back. Lag is horrible(worst than any game I played), Classes are not balanced, Exploits from over a year ago are still in use. If you was coming back for the pve I would say its worth it. But the pvp is the worst I have ever seen and I used to pvp more than pve.

I just pve anymore. March is coming and some really good games are coming I would check them out first and give this game more time to get fixed.

Waffennacht · February 2016

I bet you are PC, however I have had almost 0 lad ever on xbox one, yes it has happened but only for a minute and maybe 3 times in the last year on my console.

DKs aren't what they use to be, but many say will be super good with the dlc.

Some people say sorc is OP, some say they need buffed, personally I love my sorc and feel like they are where they should be, same with NB but we'll see what happens to them in the dlc.

Temps are ... from what I hear... where they were... I dunno mucb about temps.

Some say vamps are really good, I haven't faced any unkillable vamps personally.

I love this game, and have seen an up tick in players. Many of the old issues are now gone, haven't seen a QQ thread about CPs in ages as an example.

RatedChaotic · February 2016

Draxys wrote: »

bugulu wrote: »

Lag in Cyrodiil? Again?
Heck, I remember that we had major issues shortly after release with constant crashings and major frame drops.
I am dissapointed that the issues we had then seems to be back now.

To be fair, all classes could zergdive and shred people like DK could at launch, DKs were just the easiest to figure it out on. But the times have changed. NBs and sorcs are top dogs and most likely will be for the foreseeable future.

Still some frame drop issues but none that bring it down to 1-4 fps. Even lame Internet and computer specs can get 15-25 in intense fights.

And ignore the guy telling you it's easy to kill zergs, he must be playing on console where players are much worse. On PC, large groups are utterly unkillable if organized correctly unless you have giant masses of players all swarming them at once, which will make the server lag anyway.

However, the incoming update should make things better. Siege effects not able to be purged, damage increased, new sets that are designed to punish groups stacking. Encouraging, but we'll see what happens.

Thats your opinion. But remember this. Some play on both pc and console, Some pc players transfered to console, Some consolers have pc gamed for years and years( like myself pc gamed for over 20 yrs) So your comment about consolers are bad players is wrong.

Arsedunedain · February 2016

it should be mentioned that the ESO Staff Members and Producers are playing ESO and ESO PVP a lot as well and they are Aware about those issues. But tracking those issues down and Fixing them is a hard Thing if it Needs to be done on the live Servers without creating new bugs while Fixing old bugs. So thats why Progresses make just small steps.

All we can do is to remain playing PVP in order to provide enough testing Environment for the devs to fix those things.

Acrolas · February 2016

Even I'm tempted to go on research-only craftcation to check out Black Desert next month.

Because that game is promising just about every new feature, both PVP and PVE, that this community wants. So I'm extremely interested in seeing if it can actually deliver acceptable results. It's not Elder Scrolls, of course, but at this point some may argue that ESO isn't, either. Brands don't impress me much anymore. I'm really just looking for something that's not the same old *** day in and day out because it's impossible to think outside of the box the game puts you in.

RebornV3x · February 2016

I would wait a few months to come back the game still has some problems. Also in response to above console players are absolute garbage Xbox one players especially it's so bad I often worry how most xb1 players even do basic life functions I assume most are mentally challenged.