PTS changes

izJordy · February 2016

i have one character, stamina nightblade and all i do is pvp..
if you don't want us to play stamina you might aswell remove it.. cloak is gonna be pretty much worthless in pvp, stamina is gonna be pretty much *** from what i've heard.. so is it true? is a stamina nightblade gonna be pretty much worthless in pvp? should i go magicka? or make a sorcerer or something?

i thought things where fine tbh, and they should fix some glitches in the game and the lagg in cyrodill or whatever.. but instead they nerfed stamina and made the cloak on nightblades pretty much worthless..

so my question is.. is a stamina nightblade still gonna be good for pvp? or did ZOS petty much remove stamina nightblades from pvp or stamina in general and it is gonna be 99% magicka builds now? *sighs*

Aquanova · February 2016

I don't think they've destroyed stam nightblade but they sure have made it rather difficult for stam nightblades to mitigate damage. We can't just cloak to break off once engaged. So the play style is going to rely heavily on self heals (vigor&rally) the class heals just aren't any good for stam nightblades , and ofc killing targets fast.
I think ZOS should at the very least give Dark Cloak the major protection debuff. -8% damage received seems a little underwhelming to me.

D0ntevenL1ft · February 2016

Wait a second ? You got ripping into the changes and then say "or so I've heard"? Did you even look into the changes or are you going solely off hype? Yes stamina took a hit this patch but don't come in here raging off of what you heard. This is a TEST server nothing is finalized.

AlnilamE · February 2016

Read the patch notes and go to the PTS when they have your character copied and try it out.

Or wait till March 7 to find out. Everything else is opinion.

Aquanova · February 2016

I forgot to mention. I have been on the PTS and tested it. I will be morphing it to shadowy disguise when it goes live.

Septimus_Magna · February 2016

Without a (couple) purger(s) in your group you will be weaker as stam NB.

People can mitigate 25% more dmg with the CP changes.

And steel tornado radius has been reduced.

Stam NB will still be really strong but more dependant on others.

leepalmer95 · February 2016

It's still going to be strong, you just won't be able to reset the fight whenever you feel like and you won't be able to 3 hit people anymore.

attackjet · February 2016

Nerfing cloak is going to be the death of the night blade (literally).

Why the **** would they do that, I don't know.

Pretty stupid though.

But there is a new 1 shot armor coming out so....

LBxFinalDeath · February 2016

The nerf to cloak was uncalled for tbh.

The only real problem was fear spam.

I'd say roll a magicka sorc, its gonna be the God class.

attackjet · February 2016

Whatever. ^

Hopefully they balance things out.

Thornen · February 2016

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

I'd say roll a magicka sorc, it is the God class.

Fixed that for ya...

Ra'Shtar · February 2016

They should change one of the morphs of the Cloak to no longer cloak and become a group purge that is cheap.

Troneon · February 2016

NB had easy mode for months and months, welcome to the rest of us...

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · February 2016

izJordy wrote: »

i have one character, stamina nightblade and all i do is pvp..
if you don't want us to play stamina you might aswell remove it.. cloak is gonna be pretty much worthless in pvp, stamina is gonna be pretty much *** from what i've heard.. so is it true? is a stamina nightblade gonna be pretty much worthless in pvp? should i go magicka? or make a sorcerer or something?

i thought things where fine tbh, and they should fix some glitches in the game and the lagg in cyrodill or whatever.. but instead they nerfed stamina and made the cloak on nightblades pretty much worthless..

so my question is.. is a stamina nightblade still gonna be good for pvp? or did ZOS petty much remove stamina nightblades from pvp or stamina in general and it is gonna be 99% magicka builds now? *sighs*

dont go oh woe is me just cause you heard somestuff. yes magica dk and templar are more viable again. stamina is still very strong. at least go on the pts before you ask if the sky is falling.
I watched a stamblade walk through everyone, also a sorc and a dk do the same. because they were really good players.
expect to see people playing magica dk again. if that is too much for your nb to handle roll a second toon.

Johngo0036 · February 2016

@Aquanova - have you tested cloak and mage light.. can you cloak or not once discovered with magelight?

teladoy · February 2016

Relax pal, don't let you intimidate for what people complain.

The thing is like this, stamina builds predominated till now and what they are doing are things fair. Trying to bring magicka and stamina at the same lvl.

So is not that stamina are nerfed and will suck, now all builds magicka and stamina will be more competitive in pvp.

Brrrofski · February 2016

They won't be worthless, you'll just have to up your game.

Stam NBs still have more burst than other stam classes. Cloak was a crutch for a lot of players. Now people will have to learn to goth out of cloak. I think I'll be fine on my stam Nb. Just going to have to adapt.

All stam users took a hit due to the CP passives. I don't fully agree, as stam usually meant melee which did mean more risk. But it's there, so I'll learn to deal with it.

Shogunami · February 2016

So.. what are people actually talking about? Can't find anything about the cloak being changed in any way in patch notes. Can I read about this somewhere or are people just crying wolf?

They better not mess with my cloak, it will *** the entire class over.

leepalmer95 · February 2016

Shogunami wrote: »

So.. what are people actually talking about? Can't find anything about the cloak being changed in any way in patch notes. Can I read about this somewhere or are people just crying wolf?

They better not mess with my cloak, it will *** the entire class over.

Cloak will no longer purge dots, instead it will supress them making them deal 0 dmg while in cloak.

Dark cloak will give 8% dmg reduction, the other a guarantee crit.

Magelight is no longer a toggle, just have it on your bar, if you activiate it you summon a mote of magelight than will reveal invis/stealthed enemy in a 8m radius and stop them going stealth for 5s. Inner light gives max magicka/ Radiant magelight increases detect radius to 12m and can;'t be stunned from stealth.

FloppyTouch · February 2016

Oh no there is going to be balance this is horrible why can't NB and stam build stay OP ugh... On a side note was at a dueling area and 3/4 where magic DK love how ppl jump on and off build bc they are not good

aLi3nZ · February 2016

I see more dk's then anything on pts. They do very well. Sourc has always been strong. Magika dk is hardest to kill but a stam dk using wings seems like a good mix of tanking / Dps.

What is this 1 shot armour you are talking about?

Artjuh90 · February 2016

Troneon wrote: »

NB had easy mode for months and months, welcome to the rest of us...

uhm magicka sorc still easy mode. high damage and highest defense of everyone from range

Troneon · February 2016

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

NB had easy mode for months and months, welcome to the rest of us...

uhm magicka sorc still easy mode. high damage and highest defense of everyone from range

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/246012/who-needs-a-healer-for-pve-pvp-content-anyway-just-roll-a-mag-sorc-d/p1

@Artjuh90

runagate · February 2016

I played stamina nightblade in PvP without leaving Cyrodiil for 6 straight months with the rewards for the worthy green leathers when cloak and quite a few other NB abilities were broken and never even given an ETA (or "fixes" that were nothing of the sort). And stamina was shite back then. People would see me with a two-handed sword and laugh, and cloak basically never worked. I suspect you'll be fine.

izJordy · February 2016

i'm not even maxed out, 40 cps, not even best gear in the game, my stats are decent, i'm still getting destroyed by magicka nightblades and any other classes, so nightblade OP for me it is not at all (yet) so if i imagine a nerf.. ima do even worse then i'm allready doing so it does worry me, but the reason i do stuggle is prob lack of cps ec, i'm vet 4.. i'm just curious should i roll a magicka nightblade are they any good for pvp..

oRioNoTime · February 2016

runagate wrote: »

I played stamina nightblade in PvP without leaving Cyrodiil for 6 straight months with the rewards for the worthy green leathers when cloak and quite a few other NB abilities were broken and never even given an ETA (or "fixes" that were nothing of the sort). And stamina was shite back then. People would see me with a two-handed sword and laugh, and cloak basically never worked. I suspect you'll be fine.

NB were so strong in the first two months! xD

DurzoBlint13 · February 2016

run a search for "PTS Patch Notes v2.3.0" on this forum, it has all of the changes, including the Nightblade and other class skill changes

vamp_emily · February 2016

ESO was fun while it lasted. After this next update and I can't play like i have been playing, then I quit. I am tired of ZOS making stupid ass decisions.

I wish they would just remove me from the game and the forum so I don't have to cry any more about it.

LEAVE MY CHARACTER ALONE!! GEEZ!!!

BRogueNZ · February 2016

Can't say I'm surprised or disappointed.

Wollust · February 2016

Stamblade is doing okaish in PvP on the PTS.

Yes, less damage due to the new CP star. Yes, no more DoT purge, but instead Minor Protection to get some more mitigation which will help against any other class that doesn't use DoTs.

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO · February 2016

I love all these "if i can't stay OP I'm quitting"