Swallow soul vs Burning Embers PTS 2.3
teladoy
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Using same magicka builds are those skills well balanced or Burning Embers heals better than Swallow soul?
I believe that if they fix one skills they should do it with the other one also, almost all skills heals from an X amount if are recasted before they end.
I believe that if they fix one skills they should do it with the other one also, almost all skills heals from an X amount if are recasted before they end.
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hammayolettuce✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sure increase swallow souls heal amount but triple its cost for the spamable damage it does. It's by far the cheapest skill that does consistent medium to high dps. Weaving it with staff medium attacks is basically free to cast.♥ Snü (Magicka DK) ♥ Thnu (Stamplar) ♥ Pizza for Breakfast (Magplar) ♥ Sparklefingers (Magicka Sorc) ♥♥ Bean and Cheese Burrito (Magicka DK) ♥ Snurrito (Stamplar) ♥DARFAL COVANT4 -
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✭hammayolettuce wrote: »Sure increase swallow souls heal amount but triple its cost for the spamable damage it does. It's by far the cheapest skill that does consistent medium to high dps. Weaving it with staff medium attacks is basically free to cast.
burning embers does not cost more...spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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hammayolettuce✭✭✭✭✭
✭hammayolettuce wrote: »Sure increase swallow souls heal amount but triple its cost for the spamable damage it does. It's by far the cheapest skill that does consistent medium to high dps. Weaving it with staff medium attacks is basically free to cast.
burning embers does not cost more...
One is a dot and one is an insta cast single target dos skill that like whip it heals...♥ Snü (Magicka DK) ♥ Thnu (Stamplar) ♥ Pizza for Breakfast (Magplar) ♥ Sparklefingers (Magicka Sorc) ♥♥ Bean and Cheese Burrito (Magicka DK) ♥ Snurrito (Stamplar) ♥DARFAL COVANT2 -
Witar✭✭✭✭✭And it's also ranged as well.It cannot be seen, cannot be felt,
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Rikumaru✭✭✭✭✭
✭hammayolettuce wrote: »Sure increase swallow souls heal amount but triple its cost for the spamable damage it does. It's by far the cheapest skill that does consistent medium to high dps. Weaving it with staff medium attacks is basically free to cast.
You have to choose between swallow soul and concealed wep. Swallow soul does less dmg but is a free cast. However DKs which slot wings are gonna be a huge issue whereas if you slotted concealed weapon you would have been fine. If swallow soul's cost increased almost no one would use it over concealed.Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.0 -
LoreRiley✭✭✭✭Using same magicka builds are those skills well balanced or Burning Embers heals better than Swallow soul?
I believe that if they fix one skills they should do it with the other one also, almost all skills heals from an X amount if are recasted before they end.
Multiple the damage of Swallow soul X100 so i can reflect it0 -
Witar✭✭✭✭✭
You can place both on your bar. It is not balance issue, only the preference one.hammayolettuce wrote: »Sure increase swallow souls heal amount but triple its cost for the spamable damage it does. It's by far the cheapest skill that does consistent medium to high dps. Weaving it with staff medium attacks is basically free to cast.
You have to choose between swallow soul and concealed wep. Swallow soul does less dmg but is a free cast. However DKs which slot wings are gonna be a huge issue whereas if you slotted concealed weapon you would have been fine. If swallow soul's cost increased almost no one would use it over concealed.
It cannot be seen, cannot be felt,
Cannot be heard, cannot be smelt,
It lies behind stars and under hills,
And empty holes it fills,
It comes first and follows after,
Ends life, kills laughter.1 -
Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭As a magicka melee nightblade I would pick burning embers over swallow soul if it was aviable
Unreflectable dot + nice dot dmg + heal? Yes please.
Miss the days when cripple / crippling grasp DOT wasn't reflectable
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Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭hammayolettuce wrote: »Sure increase swallow souls heal amount but triple its cost for the spamable damage it does. It's by far the cheapest skill that does consistent medium to high dps. Weaving it with staff medium attacks is basically free to cast.
It's pretty balanced. It is horrible against shield stackers and most stamina builds will easily out dps the heals even with a received + outgoing heal build. In combination with cloak it is quite good, but maybe not so much after this patch.
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Prabooo✭✭✭✭hammayolettuce wrote: »Sure increase swallow souls heal amount but triple its cost for the spamable damage it does. It's by far the cheapest skill that does consistent medium to high dps. Weaving it with staff medium attacks is basically free to cast.
You have to choose between swallow soul and concealed wep. Swallow soul does less dmg but is a free cast. However DKs which slot wings are gonna be a huge issue whereas if you slotted concealed weapon you would have been fine. If swallow soul's cost increased almost no one would use it over concealed.
Conceiled weapon does not heal, so I am kinda lost with your commentEdited by Prabooo on February 11, 2016 8:32PM0 -
Rikumaru✭✭✭✭✭
✭hammayolettuce wrote: »Sure increase swallow souls heal amount but triple its cost for the spamable damage it does. It's by far the cheapest skill that does consistent medium to high dps. Weaving it with staff medium attacks is basically free to cast.
You have to choose between swallow soul and concealed wep. Swallow soul does less dmg but is a free cast. However DKs which slot wings are gonna be a huge issue whereas if you slotted concealed weapon you would have been fine. If swallow soul's cost increased almost no one would use it over concealed.
Conceiled weapon does not heal, so I am kinda lost with your comment
I am talking about what ability to choose for your main dmg. Having both on your bar seems a waste of a slot so I am arguing against the nerf discussed.Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.0 -
Prabooo✭✭✭✭hammayolettuce wrote: »Sure increase swallow souls heal amount but triple its cost for the spamable damage it does. It's by far the cheapest skill that does consistent medium to high dps. Weaving it with staff medium attacks is basically free to cast.
You have to choose between swallow soul and concealed wep. Swallow soul does less dmg but is a free cast. However DKs which slot wings are gonna be a huge issue whereas if you slotted concealed weapon you would have been fine. If swallow soul's cost increased almost no one would use it over concealed.
Conceiled weapon does not heal, so I am kinda lost with your comment
I am talking about what ability to choose for your main dmg. Having both on your bar seems a waste of a slot so I am arguing against the nerf discussed.
I disagree. Conceiled Weapon is melee range attack, buffs speed, has chance to stun enemy and does the most dmg, whereas Swallow Soul is a projectile attack, makes good dmg and heals for an amount of the dmg it inflicts... no waste of a slot... besides they are nerfing Funnel Health and not Swallow SoulEdited by Prabooo on February 12, 2016 9:07AM0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Bringing embers is stackable.
Wut.
Your comparing a melee ranged dot, that needs to be re applied to get the heal, To a spam dps skill that does decent dmg from range and self buff's it's own heals.
You can't compare them.Edited by leepalmer95 on February 12, 2016 10:15AMPS4 EU DC
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
Stam dps skill = swallow soul? That shows how out of touch you are with the nightblade class
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✭✭✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »
Stam dps skill = swallow soul? That shows how out of touch you are with the nightblade class
Mean't to say spam skill. But you get my point.PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0
