Stamina NB Gear Advice

Sunburnt_Penguin · February 2016

After switching from V1 5x Night's Silence and 2x Ashen Grip (all green with 3x divine & 4x reinforced) to V2 5x Hunding's and 2x Night Mother's (all blue with 5x divine, 1x impenetrable & 1x infused) my base stats have changed as per the below:

Max health: 10861 (-861)
Max stamina: 20095 (+73)
Stamina recovery: 1255 (-123)
Weapon damage: 1256 (+114)
Weapon critical: 52.7% (+8%)
Physical resistance: 8245 (-98)

Is this trade off really worth it?

Danksta · February 2016

With all the same enchantments? What's your mundus stone? Same jewelry?

I didn't find it worth it to change out gear every level. Through my leveling of veteran ranks I only made new gear 4 times (will be 5 once I get enough mats for VR16 gear).

If you can do 6 traits in your preferred weapon, you may want to go make some Night Mother weapons to get that 3rd (and if you dual wield, 4th) set bonus. I'm running 5 Hunding's Rage and 4 Night Mother, and 3 Night Mother (bow) on my back bar.

Also, if you're trying to fill the roll of DD, then I'd say your stats have improved, just not significantly.

Sunburnt_Penguin · February 2016

@Danksta

Yeah, the only thing I changed was the armour but still put the exact same glyphs on them. I've been using the Thief to increase crit chance (although I switched it to Shadow to see how that would do but it dropped my crit to ~35%).

Yeah I'm going to get my 3rd (on both Bow and 2H) on NM when I get the chance but then that should only boost my damage up by 121.

Sorry, what's DD?

cjhhickman39 · February 2016

DD damage dealer same as DPS damage per second

Sunburnt_Penguin · February 2016

@cjhhickman39

Gotchya, thanks.

Brrrofski · February 2016

Why have you not included weapons by the way?

Tomato · February 2016

PvP or PvE? What weapons do you use?

Sunburnt_Penguin · February 2016

@Brrrofski because the weapons stayed the same (both basic rare 2h and bow with precise) so they shouldn't factor in to the changes shown in the OP

Brrrofski · February 2016

Which weapons though? Adding them as part of a set would give you more.

You only have two ashen grip. Making the sword and bow ashen grip would add weapon damage.

5 hunding's and 3 ashen is the way to for 2h and bow until end game.

Tomato · February 2016

You should be able to run 5 hundings rage, 3 ashen grip, and weapon dmg glyphs on your robust jewlery. If you don't have the undaunted passive then run 7 medium otherwise 5/1/1. PvE run all divines and in PvP 5 impen / 2 divines. Sharpened weapons for PvP and precise for PvE.

Sunburnt_Penguin · February 2016

@Tomato

Sorry yeah.. To be used in PvP (although stats shown or out of PvP and without buffs) and only rare V1 2H & bow at the moment (I'll get NM's set pieces of them soon).

Although, the query wasn't so much about general gear advice - it was more along the lines of that i'm surprised that the below changes haven't made a general significant improvement (IMnoobyO) in my stats and whether I'd just be best off using the equivalent version of my original gear:
1. Going up a level,
2. Supposedly getting better sets, and
3. Improving the gear quality (green to blue)

Tomato · February 2016

If you can only do rare gear then at least make your weapons purple with a disease or weapon power glyph on them. I would run a warrior or serpent Mundus stone then.

Sunburnt_Penguin · February 2016

@Brrrofski - edited because I'm not sure if you get a notification if I've just quoted.

Brrrofski wrote: »

Which weapons though? Adding them as part of a set would give you more.

You only have two ashen grip. Making the sword and bow ashen grip would add weapon damage.

5 hunding's and 3 ashen is the way to for 2h and bow until end game.

Basic rare V1 2h & Bow but I will be incorporating these in to a set (whichever I settle on) shortly.

I previously had two Ashen, now I have two Night Mother's. I switched because I believed the 1% Weapon Critical would be more beneficial to an increase in Max Health.

So you're saying that Max Health and Weapon Damage is preferable for a NB over Weapon Crit and Weapon Damage?

Sunburnt_Penguin · February 2016

@Tomato - edited because I'm not sure if you get a notification if I've just quoted.

Tomato wrote: »

If you can only do rare gear then at least make your weapons purple with a disease or weapon power glyph on them. I would run a warrior or serpent Mundus stone then.

Tomato wrote: »

You should be able to run 5 hundings rage, 3 ashen grip, and weapon dmg glyphs on your robust jewlery. If you don't have the undaunted passive then run 7 medium otherwise 5/1/1. PvE run all divines and in PvP 5 impen / 2 divines. Sharpened weapons for PvP and precise for PvE.

No I can do purple gear, I just left it at blue for the time-being for the closest comparison between the 2 sets (would've left it at green for a better one but someone made the set for me and changed 4 pieces to blue so I did the other 3).

The issue I have with changing Mundus (currently running Shadow) and reducing the number of Divine traits is that my Crit % drops to ~35%. I read that it's important for PvP to have this at 50-60% and when I did previously increase it to around this level from ~25% (changing from Thief to Shadow and using Precise weapons), I noticed a drastic improvement in my output.

Brrrofski · February 2016

Yeh, because the health translates to stamina.

You can enchant less things in health, more in stam.

So I do think ashen is superior. Hunding's gives you two lots of crit as is.

Crit isn't all that in pvp...

Any form of shield doesn't crit. So it negates a lot of your stats. That's why I like going with straight up weapon damage personally.

Tomato · February 2016

Just put camo hunter on your bar if you need more crit

Sunburnt_Penguin · February 2016

@Tomato

Thanks for that, got me an extra 10%!