Do you think they should get rid of cloak for nightblades?

Elara_Northwind · February 2016

NO!

I'm not a nightblade and I said no! Leave the nightblades alone!

Getting rid of a classes skill which is both their defence and their identity is ridiculous!

Volkodav · February 2016

Don't care

MikeB wrote: »

The only real defensive skill for NB's and it useless now.

Naah.There are several great skill us NBs have.I have one vet who is a NB and I have never used cloak. I use four strong skills,and need neither Cloak,nor any of the Shadow skills.
My main skills are:
Strife
Teleport Strike
Assassin's Blade
Swallow Soul
In that order.The last one is the standard Soul trap.

Nikkor · February 2016

NO!

I think nightblades should have a shade morph that makes an exact copy/ mirror of your character name tag and all but does zero damage!

Aquanova · February 2016

Aeius wrote: »

I'd prefer a morph that gave NB's a damage shield, and I wouldn't mind too much if cloak took that spot.
(Running Nightblade tank with little use for cloak when the DoT purify gets removed)

I was thinking the same thing, but the shield should scale off stamina so as to not be another OP tool for mag blade's and give stamblades some real mitigation. 8% damage reduction while decent for group play where your not being focused is pretty useless when soloing.

ajwest927 · February 2016

Yes

Greiver wrote: »

ajwest927 wrote: »

Anyone who voted no must be a Nightblade

By this logic, anyone who says yes isn't a nightblade.

Yes or they could be a self hating nightblade.

Greiver · February 2016

NO!

ajwest927 wrote: »

Greiver wrote: »

ajwest927 wrote: »

Anyone who voted no must be a Nightblade

By this logic, anyone who says yes isn't a nightblade.

Yes or they could be a self hating nightblade.

I sometimes hate my nightblade. Stupid cat. Lol

a1x23 · February 2016

Ummm.. No...

laksikus wrote: »

let me list something:

DK: selfheal (even if its bad in pvp) shield (same) and armor buff
sorc: shield (OP in every aspect) armor buff
templar: heal (OP), shield (average shield, very good for some builds, even in pvp) rune (more magic resistance)

NB: selfheal (öhm, nope, swallow is *** as selheal) shield (nb got this awesome shild called...) amror buff (wait, have to use a shadow ability for that, doesnt last very long, so alot more expensive than any armor buff of every other class)

what nb got is a cloak, a cloak that:
gets uncloaked by any aoe

gets uncloaked by any gap closer

gets uncloaked by certain single target abilities

can be countered by potions, mage light and so on

will get negated by mage light

got a purge nerf

im still waiting for any potion or skills that completly negates any shield or armor buff other classes have :>

NB's have marked target which partially negates armor buffs

mrdaveqc · February 2016

NO!

No but they should make it like streak for sorc the more you use it the more expensive it become

bedlom · February 2016

Yes

Maybe just from pvp, not pve!

theher0not · February 2016

NO!

No. In Pvp you just need to AOE it down and then the NB is dead since he lacks the shields or healing to survive. In pve it is just a way to skip mobs or a way to get a couple seconds of not being attacked

Volkodav · February 2016

Don't care

Nikkor wrote: »

I think nightblades should have a shade morph that makes an exact copy/ mirror of your character name tag and all but does zero damage!

There is a skill that lets you summon one and even two other yous to help you fight.

lathbury · February 2016

Yes

cyx54tc wrote: »

MOST of us are self interested which makes those kind of poll pointless TBH. NB are going to say no and all other classes getting beaten by NB are going to say yes. You know what the result is going to be like why even bother.

I only play nb and I voted yes zos clearly dont know what to do with this it took them from beta to IC to get it to function as intended and with the current magelight iteration on PTS its useless. so yeah get rid and give us a shield a reflect or a decent burst heal.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · February 2016

NO!

chaserstorm16909 wrote: »

Should they also get rid of hardened ward for sorcs, reflective scales for dragonknights, breath of life for templars and wrecking blow for stamina builds? I think not.

I just wonder what the game would be like if they did, would it be balanced?

ADarklore · February 2016

NO!

laksikus wrote: »

let me list something:

NB: selfheal (öhm, nope, swallow is *** as selheal) shield (nb got this awesome shild called...) amror buff (wait, have to use a shadow ability for that, doesnt last very long, so alot more expensive than any armor buff of every other class)

You must be referring to a Stamina NB... because Swallow Soul on a Magicka Nightblade works just fine for self-healing along with Sap Essence against mobs. But if you're a Stamina build, yeah, without all those points in Magicka you're going to do crap damage with Swallow Soul which then equates to crap healing.

izJordy · February 2016

NO!

if they remove cloak, they might aswell remove nightblades from the game.

EsoRecon · February 2016

NO!

If you take away cloak from nightblade you might as well remove the class all together. Cloak is what makes up nightblade... It is their main defense. Nightblades are pretty squishy, if you can hit them.

Shunravi · February 2016

Yes

izJordy wrote: »

if they remove cloak, they might aswell remove nightblades from the game.

Lol

Mr.Hmm · February 2016

Don't care

I dont care.

mdylan2013 · February 2016

Don't care

I would rather they make it cost double the amount each time it's used within a certain time period to stop the spamming of it. Much like happened to sorcs bolt escape.

DRXHarbinger · February 2016

It would impact pve more than pvp so no. It's great for deagging when you're in trouble. PVP it's only useful for the odd zoink, WB, Ex steals stones and bye.

Lenikus · February 2016

Ummm.. No...

They can remove the cloak. BUT if they do so, they NEED to give Nightblades another survivability (aka, Tank/shield) skill.
So yes. Remove the cloak, and give the highest stamina burst class the means to not only deal absurd damage, but also to absord ridiculous amount of damages. It'll be Dunmer Vamp DKs in 1.5 all over again.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2016

NO!

No, I don't even understand why anyone would want to reduce or negate another classes effectiveness.

Here is the problem....in PvP things work one way but for PvE things work another way.

ZOS, in my opinion would drastically benefit from adjusting the effects and outcomes of the exact same skills in PvP and leave the existing effects and outcomes for PvE.

Basically the tooltip would read differently or apply different in PvP only compared to PvE

A lot of the nerf this, buff that threads are specific to either PvE or Pvp but almost never both.
Seems the obvious call out is the circumstance changes the skill and begs all to be addressed differently.

Thats how I see it....I'm curious why ZOS doesn't address things in that manner.

eventide03b14a_ESO · February 2016

Nobody is removing cloak...What is the point of this poll?

Shunravi · February 2016

Yes

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

Nobody is removing cloak...What is the point of this poll?

Delicious qq

TequilaFire · February 2016

NO!

Maybe also take away sorc's magicka regen?
Troll poll.

Resipsa131 · February 2016

Yes

Yes because eventually in a year or so Nightblades might get a direct damage shield so we can stand and bang

Dermestes · February 2016

They may as well add a cloak and damage shield to the assault/support lines to give everyone access to class skills. To blur the lines between classes even more.

Moonshadow66 · February 2016

Ummm.. No...

Personally, I don't care that much although I'm running 2 NBs. However, none of them is using Cloak (anymore).
But since I assume that the majority would want to keep it, I've chosen the 3rd vote option.

Aquanova · February 2016

Lol, I think ZOS will be hearing from alot of stamina night blades after the Thieves Guild patch goes live. With this patch stam NB has little to no mitigation.

Minor protection or what ever the hell it is will not give enough mitigation for a stam build to solo. The changes to Dark Cloak are bad enough for mag builds but they are pretty devastating to stam builds as this was our only option for defense aside from fear, rally and vigor ( if you have it unlocked ). Now the stamina NB has 1 option...kill fast or die.

mdylan2013 · February 2016

Don't care

Aquanova wrote: »

Lol, I think ZOS will be hearing from alot of stamina night blades after the Thieves Guild patch goes live. With this patch stam NB has little to no mitigation.

Minor protection or what ever the hell it is will not give enough mitigation for a stam build to solo. The changes to Dark Cloak are bad enough for mag builds but they are pretty devastating to stam builds as this was our only option for defense aside from fear, rally and vigor ( if you have it unlocked ). Now the stamina NB has 1 option...kill fast or die.

Or as you acknowledge they can fear and then run away, or even use an invisibility potion like my Mage has to do when in a 'oh god I'm going to die moment'.